Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread
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Baros
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Ok so now google have updated my earnings for july and they have removed 75% of the revenue as Invalid Traffic - AdSense for Content, so im also guessing the ban hammer to come soon
Since 2015 twitter traffic is harder to target and adsense of course evolves. This is something many clients learn to deal with. The shave is not important, whats important is the return. If you are returning a profit then continue, this is what clients have been doing for a long time. Our adsense traffic is also not only for adsense but other networks which is why we suggest running multiple networks on a site and test.
As I have already mentioned couple of times Adsense has been very very stricted since may of 2015 and they do care more about website and Traffic on it. Please don't treat 'Invalid Traffic' as the issue of the traffic only because it is up to many various aspects that is why we have builded our ads3nse guide.
75% deductions happen to websites which aren't fully optimized within our suggestions and techniques implemented in our guide. In short term - You must treat your adsense website like a daily job (at least make it look like this to let them think this way), keep it growing, update it all the time, make it look professional, do everything a professional marketer would do best. Such shavings do not happen to everyone so take a note about this too.
P.s - These deductions doesn't really mean 'ban hammer' will face your website.This is just Googles way of saving money. All I am saying - Deductions are not a reasons for getting adsense ban.
Well... It is really hard to say why it did not convert. It's not something I can guarantee that will happen. Our traffic is keyword Text advertising , not display or banner advertising which is why cost is low. We are seeing clients with conversions even after 1 day test packages.
We are working to implement new traffic type which may also work better but it needs a various of tests. It will be Pop Up/Pop Under traffic
We may target your traffic to any country you want however low tier countries with low demographic may have lower volumes of availible visits daily so if you will order Traffic from country like Denmark or Chech Republic you will see pretty less amounts of daily visits but we will keep running your campaign till you will get ordered number.
wealthyslacker
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Invalid Traffic - AdSense for Content
Never had that before and been using Adsense since forever
Never had that before and been using Adsense since forever
hokuspokus
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It's not our websites quality they are penalizing it's the traffic quality, i have never had this before and i sent lots of traffic from twitter as i used 100s of accounts and it was after 2015 also.
I had 3 ad networks on the website I used to test the traffic and adsense made the most return in figures (most of the revenue from it were considered as amount from an invalid traffic), the rest, just a measly few cents a day.
debited amount by goolge was 73.22564% to be exact. still waiting what the other networks will do.
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blackhatjoey
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sorry to break it to you OP but your traffic is BAD. How come you post earning screenshots from viral9 but none of adsense since you have had such big success with it?
I'm sorry but 75% of invalid traffic could trigger a manual review and get your account banned. I have experience in accounts getting banned due invalid traffic by using PPV traffic (also real traffic)
And to be fair OP now you are claiming you knew your traffic causes high invalids but people were still making money. Some of us have clean accounts and don't want to bring them in danger with these kind of invalids. This is kind of dishonest and non transparent.
Also if you can please show proof of accounts that keep getting paid out with 70% invalids since you have been using this traffic before 29th
I'll wait but you won't....
This looks like expressvisits all over again.
I'm sorry but 75% of invalid traffic could trigger a manual review and get your account banned. I have experience in accounts getting banned due invalid traffic by using PPV traffic (also real traffic)
And to be fair OP now you are claiming you knew your traffic causes high invalids but people were still making money. Some of us have clean accounts and don't want to bring them in danger with these kind of invalids. This is kind of dishonest and non transparent.
Also if you can please show proof of accounts that keep getting paid out with 70% invalids since you have been using this traffic before 29th
I'll wait but you won't....
This looks like expressvisits all over again.
vups
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OP, you yourself put this asking about invalid traffic of yours
http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/adsense-invalid-traffic-finalized-earnings-shaved-out.850567/
Please be transparent and update us
http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/adsense-invalid-traffic-finalized-earnings-shaved-out.850567/
Please be transparent and update us
Baros
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We have posted Viral9 screenshot because one of our clients shared it with us. We don't ask clients ourselves to send us screenshots of their earnings, they keep it for themselves.
Adsense will never ban your account with 'invalid traffic' reason. Their reasons for all bans is 'Invalid activity' which is kinda different
I never claimed that my traffic causes 'high invalids' as you said. I have mentioned that it's not something new we can see as adsense is doing this since 2015.
Yes, we see shaves each month. All clients see shaves. Sometimes very low, sometimes higher and sometimes none at all. The important thing is always the return. If you are unhappy with the returns with Adsense, we have clients in endless fields beside AdSense. This is not the sole purpose in any way of Foxvisits. You may try another field. However the clients doing well with AdSense have well established websites. This makes a difference to Google.
Use google, search for 'invalid traffic - adsense for content' and look. You will see people are facing it with all kind of natural traffic types (include Twitter and any other social).
anyway... We are running Twitter traffic so how can this be up to us?
And what is most important - We have never claim anything about adsense - safety , clicks, earnings etc. We advertise as Website Traffic provider and our ads3nse traffic is not called adsense. What every client is using this for is only his own business, we are only trying to help and optimize it as best as possible so don't charge us for something you just imagine in your head.
payment screenshots? I am not gonna ask our client's to share their revenue with publicity. I truly believe that some of BHW members will share their revenue here on the next payment date.
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Here is a list of networks our clients are using beside adsense with success. So it may be an advise to clients that looking for ways to monetize
http://foxvisits.com/news/
nightbat
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- May 24, 2010
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EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS
I have been watching this thread from the beginning. Like all of us here, I was very interested in purchasing reliable, converting Adsense traffic. But something (experience?) held me back. This service seemed too good to be true.
So I decided to do some black box testing. The results are eye-opening, to say the least. Here are the facts/stats:
- I had OP throw 8000+ "Google organic" visits at a very high gravity, top-converting Clickbank product (3 Week Diet) over a 24-hour period.
- Direct linking, 10 keywords, moderate to high commercial intent.
- A full 50% of the visits resulted in order form impressions (which means the visitors clicked on the "Add To Cart" buttons).
- There were 0 conversions. Not one!
It's IMPOSSIBLE to throw 8000+ well-targeted visits at a top-converting Clickbank page and not have a single sale.
OP's visitors engage/interact with the target page's content enthusiastically - they click on links, for example. Great for Adsense sites. However, they're SPECTACULARLY uninterested in doing anything more - like making payments/purchases.
So here's the deal, people:
1. OP's traffic has a high "conversion" rate with Adsense as his users are eager to click links. Google invalidates most of these clicks, as OP himself has reported earlier. Now I've been using Adsense for nearly 10 years, and Google's never been anything but fair in my experience. Tells me there's something fraudulent/unnatural about these visitors and their clicks. This isn't "shaving", this is Google protecting their business and their clients.
2. I guarantee that OP's traffic will have ZERO conversions with Amazon and CPA, as his visitors are not interested in anything other than clicking lots of links.
Verdict: This traffic is BAD NEWS. It won't convert with Amazon/Clickbank/CPA. Worse, it will get your Adsense account banned.
Disengage immediately, if you value your account.
I have been watching this thread from the beginning. Like all of us here, I was very interested in purchasing reliable, converting Adsense traffic. But something (experience?) held me back. This service seemed too good to be true.
So I decided to do some black box testing. The results are eye-opening, to say the least. Here are the facts/stats:
- I had OP throw 8000+ "Google organic" visits at a very high gravity, top-converting Clickbank product (3 Week Diet) over a 24-hour period.
- Direct linking, 10 keywords, moderate to high commercial intent.
- A full 50% of the visits resulted in order form impressions (which means the visitors clicked on the "Add To Cart" buttons).
- There were 0 conversions. Not one!
It's IMPOSSIBLE to throw 8000+ well-targeted visits at a top-converting Clickbank page and not have a single sale.
OP's visitors engage/interact with the target page's content enthusiastically - they click on links, for example. Great for Adsense sites. However, they're SPECTACULARLY uninterested in doing anything more - like making payments/purchases.
So here's the deal, people:
1. OP's traffic has a high "conversion" rate with Adsense as his users are eager to click links. Google invalidates most of these clicks, as OP himself has reported earlier. Now I've been using Adsense for nearly 10 years, and Google's never been anything but fair in my experience. Tells me there's something fraudulent/unnatural about these visitors and their clicks. This isn't "shaving", this is Google protecting their business and their clients.
2. I guarantee that OP's traffic will have ZERO conversions with Amazon and CPA, as his visitors are not interested in anything other than clicking lots of links.
Verdict: This traffic is BAD NEWS. It won't convert with Amazon/Clickbank/CPA. Worse, it will get your Adsense account banned.
Disengage immediately, if you value your account.
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vups
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Banning or not is not an issue as of now, If my adsense account got banned I will not blame you for that as you mention you cannot Guarantee adsense account though you are using adwords filters as you mentioned earlier.
I never said you claimed that your traffic causes "invalid traffic", but old thread you yours you questioned about your adsense account of invalid traffic deductions. But its not coincidence that many of users getting approximately same percentage of Invalid traffic and this patterns implies something different that human traffic. Though traffic engagement seems to be like human traffic as i reviewed earlier, but the pattern of invalid traffic deductions implies something different.
OP please don't mislead with this statement, again I am saying I will not blame you for ban of account , safety and ROI. I make improvement in my site with respect to traffic and increased my ROI which i mentioned in my review.
Many users ask you about safety for adsense and your answers was you cant guarantee but you are using adwords filter but now you are saying your traffic name is "ads3nse" not "adsense" what does this mean ? Answering queries related to adsense and its saftey and now saying its name is "ads3nse" not adsense. Its like playing with trust of BHW members.
I am only asking about the same pattern of invalid traffic which many users here got including your old post --- http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/adsense-invalid-traffic-finalized-earnings-shaved-out.850567/
Received my traffic. Obviously, this traffic is a scam. It is not real, just acts like a real. But when I checked in my metrics traffic action (from webvisor), they were doing the same: they just chaotically moved mouse and scroll down and up the page. For the computer it may seem like a human, but for human they are obviously bots.
And those so called 6 minutes sessions with active users were actually bots that clicked on links randomly.
You can check my heat map of clicks from the same metric in the attachment. All clicks were at the left-up corner of all links (div blocks).
I've checked about 30 of visitors and none of them was real.
I didn't check my amazon, but it will be a miracle, if I am able to make at least 1 conversion from this traffic.
Complete scam.
P.S. Your bots could be more clever, cause they don't click on image links, not a single one.
And those so called 6 minutes sessions with active users were actually bots that clicked on links randomly.
You can check my heat map of clicks from the same metric in the attachment. All clicks were at the left-up corner of all links (div blocks).
I've checked about 30 of visitors and none of them was real.
I didn't check my amazon, but it will be a miracle, if I am able to make at least 1 conversion from this traffic.
Complete scam.
P.S. Your bots could be more clever, cause they don't click on image links, not a single one.
nightbat
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Great catch. OP claims the "visitors" are "99.9% Real Human". It's a wonder Google doesn't invalidate ALL the clicks, instead of just 75%. Hope they don't ban the accounts of those who used this traffic.
No, there won't be a single conversion.
Complete scam indeed. I believe refunds are in order.
Baros
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The traffic is very real, and yes we do get paid out all the time, the invalids are not reason to go crazy. We've seen anywhere from 10% to 90% shaves. It's more difficult to target appropriately since the network changed, so what we have now is shaves, which vary greatly as you can see. We have many orders daily and yes clients who are using AdSense as well as other networks profitably.
So again. It's totally your business what you use this traffic for. I am not gonna fight with your opinions and blames 'This traffic is scam cuz it doesn't convert on best converting offer' etc. It's not the point.
Our google and direct traffic is PPC based. We are creating campaigns using many of different ad networks that provides traffic from their publishers. We are using filters on our own system + traffic is also filtered directly on networks side.
Twitter and Ads3nse traffic is totally different as it's social media driven thru Twitter.
You don't like the traffic? That's okay, maybe it's not for you or you don't really know how to monetize it correctly, but please don't throw slander us. '1 day test' packages - This is what we have implemented for - to let you give it a try if it works for you or not.
And Again - There is a lot of ways to earn with our traffic! And by the end of August we will try to ask our returning clients for screenshots success to make you more confident.
So again. It's totally your business what you use this traffic for. I am not gonna fight with your opinions and blames 'This traffic is scam cuz it doesn't convert on best converting offer' etc. It's not the point.
Our google and direct traffic is PPC based. We are creating campaigns using many of different ad networks that provides traffic from their publishers. We are using filters on our own system + traffic is also filtered directly on networks side.
Twitter and Ads3nse traffic is totally different as it's social media driven thru Twitter.
You don't like the traffic? That's okay, maybe it's not for you or you don't really know how to monetize it correctly, but please don't throw slander us. '1 day test' packages - This is what we have implemented for - to let you give it a try if it works for you or not.
And Again - There is a lot of ways to earn with our traffic! And by the end of August we will try to ask our returning clients for screenshots success to make you more confident.
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