Eeron Media
Regular Member
- Sep 5, 2012
- 245
- 16
Hi,
First of all, sorry for a late reply, our country celebrated midsummer day and everyone had most of the week off. We are back and responsive now.
To everyone have clear and same vision how our business works, let me explain this quickly. We farm accounts, have been for years now. We also have been selling a lot of accounts. Agency accounts, our own farmed accounts, accounts farmed by third party’s, real peoples accounts, 25TH accounts, 250TH accounts, 750TH accounts, US accounts, EU accounts, what ever works at that time. We started current sales thread when we had farmed a lot of accounts and everything went fine. This year, along with EVERY OTHER farmer, accounts were shut down by batches. That was a huge hit for us cause we had people waiting accounts.
Only option was to start over to deliver what we owed. We also got screwed with next batch and next one after that. So you’ll all know, farming good account is at least 3 months work. That's the reason delivery time has been unreasonably long this year. In order to deliver, we still need to pay for farming costs. We fully understand that some people have no idea what that cost is but its a lot more this year than it was in previous years because of FB changes. We will not get into details because its info not meant to be public. If mods need it, we can explain.
In order to get our batches ready and deliver what we owe to our patient and loyal customers, we need to pay those farming costs.
To do that, best option is to resell accounts. As we have many contacts in this area, we have had many sources for accounts. True, we have been scammed numerous times while doing that, but to keep this business running, its our only viable option.
To truepals:
Below is copy from skype chat i messaged you after your threats:
"But lets get all the facts straight from the beginning.
I resold accounts, you did not like them. I took them back and tried to get refund for you from the guy i originally purchased them from. I failed to do that. As we have no refund policy and can not refund if this is going public (it would just not be fair to others who have asked refund in the past or will as in the future) there is only solution to wait a bit until we get our next batch of quality accounts ready and compensate you from there + few extra accounts for waiting and trouble. Also its needed to understand that accounts you refused to take were very old accounts, ad account started in January and had decent activity. You said they were "blank" accounts, we grade them as high quality accounts cause whats most important is age of ad account (not threshold cause you can get to next threshold instantly).
So facts from skype what i sold you:
BM accounts
Admin privileges
Farmed, aged properly, safe ads running, ready to go
add new card, ready to rock
paypal attached if you have cc issues
2x replacement guarantee.
Your accusations:
what kind of shit is this
you sold me blank fucking accounts?
you told me they were READY TO GO for BH
pre-warmed, everything
give me my money back if you can't provide what you promised
As i did not wish to argue with you about account quality i did try to get funds back for you. Now when we need to start arguing:
those accounts were not shit i checked them later,
those accounts were not blank accounts, ad accounts were from January, there was spend history (that means prewarmed), there was paypal attached and bills paid,
from our understanding those are ready to go accounts. If you have had different experience with "ready to go accs" then it was simple misunderstanding here. And you should of made yourself more clear. As i do deal with different buyers daily, i do not know every experience they have had.
Also about communicating, after things got complicated i have always answered and also updated you as soon as i had answers. I did missed your question on Sunday cause we often do not work weekends, i tried to start a conversation with you guys on next day but i got very offensive reply, i refuse to answer any insults. I understand this is not so nice situation here but it happens in business (especially in accounts business) and hard language and insults will not get us anywhere closer to a solution."
So, we have explained you before and we’ll try to do it again. You understanding it or not, that's your issue. We agreed to resell you 5 accounts. Deal was, same day payment, we arranged delivery with our source. Your payment did not arrive by agreed date a (you have no idea how many people are adding us in skype, giving us beautiful story and screenshots how they have sent us funds that never arrive- and we do not wait for the miracle, if funds are not there, there is no transaction made!).
So your payment was a week late, still we delivered NEXT DAY! Those ad accounts were from January so aged very decently, were active and so on! We delivered 2 and worked on delivering other 3 when you said those were blank accounts (and we were stupid enough to believe your words) and asked for refund. For Christ sake, we delivered decent accounts you paid for and you refused to accept! None of this mess would of not happen! We even tried dispute our source because you threatened us, in the end we lost our source because you had no idea what decent ad account looks like!
Jorge's case and truepals case are so different because there were different sources, different accounts we talked about and so on. You can not take this 1:1 because even now, we can not deliver accounts we owe because our farm is not ready yet but we still can provide reselling service! We have accounts available we need to pay for first before delivering!
Also, us being broke is none of your business, but yeah, we are pretty close because don’t you think your “scam alert” will scare buyers off? Do you honestly believe its easier for us to fix this and keep our farms running when you’re trying to close our business in BHW? I have no words! I believe you’re just a fool for wanting to screw everyone in this business circle. Eeron Media being alive and getting shits sorted affects a lot more people then just you 2. We already wrote to mods last week that we have 3 clients out of many who just don’t get whats going on at the moment!
Now cut your bullshit and let us work to fix our business. We will deliver your accounts as promised even though we already did and you rejected those. Also please note that we DO NOT issue refunds. We had no refund policy stated in our thread and you agreed to it before buying. We are not only ones in BHW with "no refund" policy when account issues occur, some has been doing this for years. When its stated "no refunds", then its no refunds. It works with others, it works with us. We are farming accounts right now to be delivered, if you refuse to accept those also then my hands are tied.
You probably think that i’m so arrogant right now, I'm sorry for that but i’m pretty pissed because i just don’t see how ruining my chances to fix my issues will help anyone?!? You’ll get me banned from BHW, that's what you want? How will this help you? I need to hear good explanation, how is your brain working? Don’t you see that getting banned/disappearing would be OUR EASY WAY OUT of this mess!?? Everyone gets ripped, that's what you want? WE DO NOT! So give us a chance to fix this.
To mods:
We are willing to privately show you our farm, work that has been done to fix our issues or any other proof you need, also to explain how our business works in details. We do not see any need to expose our methods and data to public. Please also consider that we are in FB ads business. Its not 1-2-3 business selling milk from shelves, every package being same, price being same and availability being same. Its business with high risks. Other sellers have same issues, people are waiting for accounts 6+ months, they still operate because things getting resolved in the end!
E.M
First of all, sorry for a late reply, our country celebrated midsummer day and everyone had most of the week off. We are back and responsive now.
To everyone have clear and same vision how our business works, let me explain this quickly. We farm accounts, have been for years now. We also have been selling a lot of accounts. Agency accounts, our own farmed accounts, accounts farmed by third party’s, real peoples accounts, 25TH accounts, 250TH accounts, 750TH accounts, US accounts, EU accounts, what ever works at that time. We started current sales thread when we had farmed a lot of accounts and everything went fine. This year, along with EVERY OTHER farmer, accounts were shut down by batches. That was a huge hit for us cause we had people waiting accounts.
Only option was to start over to deliver what we owed. We also got screwed with next batch and next one after that. So you’ll all know, farming good account is at least 3 months work. That's the reason delivery time has been unreasonably long this year. In order to deliver, we still need to pay for farming costs. We fully understand that some people have no idea what that cost is but its a lot more this year than it was in previous years because of FB changes. We will not get into details because its info not meant to be public. If mods need it, we can explain.
In order to get our batches ready and deliver what we owe to our patient and loyal customers, we need to pay those farming costs.
To do that, best option is to resell accounts. As we have many contacts in this area, we have had many sources for accounts. True, we have been scammed numerous times while doing that, but to keep this business running, its our only viable option.
To truepals:
Below is copy from skype chat i messaged you after your threats:
"But lets get all the facts straight from the beginning.
I resold accounts, you did not like them. I took them back and tried to get refund for you from the guy i originally purchased them from. I failed to do that. As we have no refund policy and can not refund if this is going public (it would just not be fair to others who have asked refund in the past or will as in the future) there is only solution to wait a bit until we get our next batch of quality accounts ready and compensate you from there + few extra accounts for waiting and trouble. Also its needed to understand that accounts you refused to take were very old accounts, ad account started in January and had decent activity. You said they were "blank" accounts, we grade them as high quality accounts cause whats most important is age of ad account (not threshold cause you can get to next threshold instantly).
So facts from skype what i sold you:
BM accounts
Admin privileges
Farmed, aged properly, safe ads running, ready to go
add new card, ready to rock
paypal attached if you have cc issues
2x replacement guarantee.
Your accusations:
what kind of shit is this
you sold me blank fucking accounts?
you told me they were READY TO GO for BH
pre-warmed, everything
give me my money back if you can't provide what you promised
As i did not wish to argue with you about account quality i did try to get funds back for you. Now when we need to start arguing:
those accounts were not shit i checked them later,
those accounts were not blank accounts, ad accounts were from January, there was spend history (that means prewarmed), there was paypal attached and bills paid,
from our understanding those are ready to go accounts. If you have had different experience with "ready to go accs" then it was simple misunderstanding here. And you should of made yourself more clear. As i do deal with different buyers daily, i do not know every experience they have had.
Also about communicating, after things got complicated i have always answered and also updated you as soon as i had answers. I did missed your question on Sunday cause we often do not work weekends, i tried to start a conversation with you guys on next day but i got very offensive reply, i refuse to answer any insults. I understand this is not so nice situation here but it happens in business (especially in accounts business) and hard language and insults will not get us anywhere closer to a solution."
So, we have explained you before and we’ll try to do it again. You understanding it or not, that's your issue. We agreed to resell you 5 accounts. Deal was, same day payment, we arranged delivery with our source. Your payment did not arrive by agreed date a (you have no idea how many people are adding us in skype, giving us beautiful story and screenshots how they have sent us funds that never arrive- and we do not wait for the miracle, if funds are not there, there is no transaction made!).
So your payment was a week late, still we delivered NEXT DAY! Those ad accounts were from January so aged very decently, were active and so on! We delivered 2 and worked on delivering other 3 when you said those were blank accounts (and we were stupid enough to believe your words) and asked for refund. For Christ sake, we delivered decent accounts you paid for and you refused to accept! None of this mess would of not happen! We even tried dispute our source because you threatened us, in the end we lost our source because you had no idea what decent ad account looks like!
Jorge's case and truepals case are so different because there were different sources, different accounts we talked about and so on. You can not take this 1:1 because even now, we can not deliver accounts we owe because our farm is not ready yet but we still can provide reselling service! We have accounts available we need to pay for first before delivering!
Also, us being broke is none of your business, but yeah, we are pretty close because don’t you think your “scam alert” will scare buyers off? Do you honestly believe its easier for us to fix this and keep our farms running when you’re trying to close our business in BHW? I have no words! I believe you’re just a fool for wanting to screw everyone in this business circle. Eeron Media being alive and getting shits sorted affects a lot more people then just you 2. We already wrote to mods last week that we have 3 clients out of many who just don’t get whats going on at the moment!
Now cut your bullshit and let us work to fix our business. We will deliver your accounts as promised even though we already did and you rejected those. Also please note that we DO NOT issue refunds. We had no refund policy stated in our thread and you agreed to it before buying. We are not only ones in BHW with "no refund" policy when account issues occur, some has been doing this for years. When its stated "no refunds", then its no refunds. It works with others, it works with us. We are farming accounts right now to be delivered, if you refuse to accept those also then my hands are tied.
You probably think that i’m so arrogant right now, I'm sorry for that but i’m pretty pissed because i just don’t see how ruining my chances to fix my issues will help anyone?!? You’ll get me banned from BHW, that's what you want? How will this help you? I need to hear good explanation, how is your brain working? Don’t you see that getting banned/disappearing would be OUR EASY WAY OUT of this mess!?? Everyone gets ripped, that's what you want? WE DO NOT! So give us a chance to fix this.
To mods:
We are willing to privately show you our farm, work that has been done to fix our issues or any other proof you need, also to explain how our business works in details. We do not see any need to expose our methods and data to public. Please also consider that we are in FB ads business. Its not 1-2-3 business selling milk from shelves, every package being same, price being same and availability being same. Its business with high risks. Other sellers have same issues, people are waiting for accounts 6+ months, they still operate because things getting resolved in the end!
E.M
) Those type of accounts can be bought for $10 each from the marketplace - We wouldn't pay $1000 each for that crap. They had no ads/billing and only thing they had were a paypal attached so please keep the facts straight in the thread 