Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[angad1988]

Hello, ive just bought $20 and it hasnt updated my account, please could you have a look into it??

 

[jon99]

You got cut 3/4 from google too? Me too.. But, my account not yet disabled and hope not. But this make my spending for traffic is bigger than my revenue . Jon, maybe you can cut the traffic price?

I tried source 2 as well and adsense took about 3/4 so I cut it off because it will get you banned, that's why I want to try Chitika.

No they havent yet. Just says the current payment. Bit scared now!

Unfortunatly same here, lost money because of it.

I am trying chitika at the moment and its making $0.01 a day.

Anyone having any luck with Chitika? Have taken a break at the moment

One of my staffs took the effort to make this reply today, and just thought it is applicable in you guys scenario.

 

[jon99]

Hi Jon,

May I ask does the visitors charged/dashed into the website within a stated hours as this may jeopardize my website?
Anyhow, we must confirm payment before launching campaign(s) right? How would I be able to set the amount of visitors daily into my website?

Warmest Regards,
Commoner

Hi Commoner, within 2-3 hours for typical 100 visits daily campaigns. We can do dripfeed if you order a minimum of 800 visits daily.

After topping up your account with funds, you can self-create the order using the order form. Please do let me know if you need help on this, but it should be pretty straightforward once you login to your account.

Hello, ive just bought $20 and it hasnt updated my account, please could you have a look into it??

Hi mate, have told my staff to look into it, and will update in the support ticket you opened.

 

[spike2671]

Review copy request please

 

[Dumper]

Boris is full of shit and i'll leave it at that!

 

[kegnum]

"Existing users have been earning big money from EV?s traffic. We cannot reveal clients? campaigns, but we have run some LIVE experiments ourselves, and produced results from these networks:"

I have a few ideas about ways to monetize traffic. I started reading through the thread and saw that there was a decline in quality from when this BST started... I just have a few questions.

1. Without giving away to much info about your business, where does the traffic comes from?
2. What is the difference between source 1 and 2? I read the description after signing up from your site but there isnt much info there.

If the traffic is real, and you can direct people from certain niches, there shouldnt be any problems converting.

Thanks in advance. If you feel more comfortable answering in PM, that is fine too.

 

[micho24]

I writed you a PM, please answer me so I can move on.

Thank you

 

[Nut-Nights]

I setup my campaign on 9 may but i have not receive any traffic but your system deduct my money. ? Its not working at all. This is the first time i waste my money like this.

 

[soulcollector]

This is my first post so many people might ignore it, but I'll voice my opinion and leave it at that. First of all there is a MAJOR quality reduction in your service Jon. You may try to either hide it, protect your shrinking cash flow and reputation for a few months before your dedicated clients realize quality is not there anymore, and close down, or try to fix it. You need to stop hiding behind lame excuses about your traffic quality and face the facts. Your rates are to high for iframe traffic that comes from a low quality network chain now. Before when it was like $8 per 1k and $9 per 1k it was at its peak quality, but now you got a serious issue. I understand that you buy traffic from the cheapest sources possible, iframe or ajax script it, and send to your customers to make top profits. You advertise clients can make money on Chitika, Adversal, Adworksmedia, etc when they can't anymore.

You can't hide behind boris or your team any longer as you lose face because of quality issues and being banned from ad networks. Don't excuse yourself from the fact that people need to make money from this traffic, and if you charge a premium price for your traffic it better deliver the results. The results aren't there anymore for people so like all other BSTs that closed down during their low points are you going to improve your service quality or you going to hide behind excuses and let your once fantastic service dry up and die? As a buyer stop and think about what we want out of your BST or rather your website? Don't you think all the negative reputation and comments shown here or even through a simple Google Search will hurt your website? Why not simply for the sake of quality try and improve or fix the problem right now THEN charge a premium price for your traffic?

As it stands now it doesn't matter if prices go down to the old price scale, or how many staff members you have watching campaigns. What does matter is quality of product and the sales it drives you. Right now I wouldn't recommend anyone to buy your services, rather stay away from them. So its grey hat traffic for fluff, but the quality has declined into oblivion.

Fix your traffic Jon and stop hiding behind Boris and his really lame excuses to keep making top dollar from this really bad quality traffic in order to hold out for 1 more day til the end.

TLDR? The traffic quality is garbage compared to past glory days. The owner, Jon makes lame excuses to hide the fact he charges top dollar for a lower quality iframe traffic. In short if you want to burn money on really bad quality fluff traffic I still don't recommend to buy at all. Pop up traffic seems to be better at the moment than Ev 2.0 ever will be until they fix the system.

 

[undint]

I think it's imperative to give some reasonable orientation on how to monetize this traffic.

 

[jon99]

This is my first post so many people might ignore it, but I'll voice my opinion and leave it at that. First of all there is a MAJOR quality reduction in your service Jon. You may try to either hide it, protect your shrinking cash flow and reputation for a few months before your dedicated clients realize quality is not there anymore, and close down, or try to fix it. You need to stop hiding behind lame excuses about your traffic quality and face the facts. Your rates are to high for iframe traffic that comes from a low quality network chain now. Before when it was like $8 per 1k and $9 per 1k it was at its peak quality, but now you got a serious issue. I understand that you buy traffic from the cheapest sources possible, iframe or ajax script it, and send to your customers to make top profits. You advertise clients can make money on Chitika, Adversal, Adworksmedia, etc when they can't anymore.

You can't hide behind boris or your team any longer as you lose face because of quality issues and being banned from ad networks. Don't excuse yourself from the fact that people need to make money from this traffic, and if you charge a premium price for your traffic it better deliver the results. The results aren't there anymore for people so like all other BSTs that closed down during their low points are you going to improve your service quality or you going to hide behind excuses and let your once fantastic service dry up and die? As a buyer stop and think about what we want out of your BST or rather your website? Don't you think all the negative reputation and comments shown here or even through a simple Google Search will hurt your website? Why not simply for the sake of quality try and improve or fix the problem right now THEN charge a premium price for your traffic?

As it stands now it doesn't matter if prices go down to the old price scale, or how many staff members you have watching campaigns. What does matter is quality of product and the sales it drives you. Right now I wouldn't recommend anyone to buy your services, rather stay away from them. So its grey hat traffic for fluff, but the quality has declined into oblivion.

Fix your traffic Jon and stop hiding behind Boris and his really lame excuses to keep making top dollar from this really bad quality traffic in order to hold out for 1 more day til the end.

TLDR? The traffic quality is garbage compared to past glory days. The owner, Jon makes lame excuses to hide the fact he charges top dollar for a lower quality iframe traffic. In short if you want to burn money on really bad quality fluff traffic I still don't recommend to buy at all. Pop up traffic seems to be better at the moment than Ev 2.0 ever will be until they fix the system.

Thank you for your feedback.

- Our traffic source has always been the same.

- I was aware of the price increment and the impact it had on our clients. It is suppose to act as a deterrent as we have stopped investing resources in our service department. Why? Please read on>

- Expressvisits 2.0 almost became a private service just to cater that few VIP clients, and for our own projects which is obviously more lucrative.

- We went public again due to plenty of EV 1.0 clients wanting to use our service + to connect to potential B2B JVs

- No offence, but the way you hide your identity and shoot all the criticism makes me believe that you could be a direct competitor. I already know who you possibly could be, but it's fine, you should be glad to know now that I have no intention of raising to fame, but to keep EV as private as possible. That is why we did not even advertise ourselves anywhere besides solely on BHW all these years.

- To everyone else that might not have success yet using our traffic, I have to say that not knowing the techniques to monetise, and failure of our traffic performing are two different issues. It could be harder now to know the correct techniques, as what Boris has stated. Our mentorship program closed, staffs are not disclosing techniques openly now, and your friends whom are already earning a small fortune out of our traffic are keeping their mouth tight, as successful techniques that went public always get bammed.

- We have also considered to close this service publicly in the next version 3.0, and just keep our upcoming "Premium Converting Service" + Existing service to those who have declared their interest in our Skype group + email list.

- I hope we do not pose a threat to you now after declaring our business direction.

 

[undint]

How can I join the skype group / email list? Will you discuss tactics there?

 

[soulcollector]

Thank you for your feedback.

- Our traffic source has always been the same.

- I was aware of the price increment and the impact it had on our clients. It is suppose to act as a deterrent as we have stopped investing resources in our service department. Why? Please read on>

- Expressvisits 2.0 almost became a private service just to cater that few VIP clients, and for our own projects which is obviously more lucrative.

- We went public again due to plenty of EV 1.0 clients wanting to use our service + to connect to potential B2B JVs

- No offence, but the way you hide your identity and shoot all the criticism makes me believe that you could be a direct competitor. I already know who you possibly could be, but it's fine, you should be glad to know now that I have no intention of raising to fame, but to keep EV as private as possible. That is why we did not even advertise ourselves anywhere besides solely on BHW all these years.

- To everyone else that might not have success yet using our traffic, I have to say that not knowing the techniques to monetise, and failure of our traffic performing are two different issues. It could be harder now to know the correct techniques, as what Boris has stated. Our mentorship program closed, staffs are not disclosing techniques openly now, and your friends whom are already earning a small fortune out of our traffic are keeping their mouth tight, as successful techniques that went public always get bammed.

- We have also considered to close this service publicly in the next version 3.0, and just keep our upcoming "Premium Converting Service" + Existing service to those who have declared their interest in our Skype group + email list.

- I hope we do not pose a threat to you now after declaring our business direction.

First I'm not a competitor as I don't sell on BHW so there is no point in me hiding my identity. I have used and bought your service before, and disappointed in the current results of it. I am actually a angry client, one that was hoping to buy your traffic for more commercial purposes like reselling it. I'm angry because me and several others saw a quality drop in the traffic that is now, one that was extremely high before. Its not that I haven't made money with Adsense or Chitika with your service in the past as that was not the issue. The issues I've listed above aren't exaggerated, you can read your own thread as you bleed customers to bugs in your system. It's wrong to just ignore issues without making a effort to address them.

I can't send a pm yet, as I refuse to simply post to increase my count. You can pm me, and ill respond to you with everything necessary in order for you to know who I am. I won't hide behind my online username, and I'm not bad mouthing your traffic. I want you to do everything possible to make this service better. I've thought days on methods of how to make this traffic work, how to make money from it, etc. You can understand why I'm mad right? I don't want a dip in quality, and I sure as hell don't want you to end up closing down.

As for me being "threatened" you and I both know that's not the case once you find out who I am. I don't want anything in return, I've always paid fairly for services and my intentions are clearly stated. I'd even go as far as just pming you about what I intended to do with your traffic. I don't think its fair for me or for others to sit here and pretend that EV is still how it was when BB was running it, or before your service got overloaded with orders.

As for others not knowing what to do with this traffic to make money? Let me see if Jon and I can talk first, then depending on that outcome I might be able to give him some ideas on how to help buyers make the most bang for their buck.

 

[Nut-Nights]

What the hell you delete my account ? Reply me.

 

[wheels70]

Hi Jon,

Are your big customers still earning with Chitika? Need some motivation

 

[509pixels]

I came to lose $20 on EV 2.0, don't use their service.

I have ordered $3 daily traffic, I would get about 100 visitors daily; DAILY, not in 5 mns in a day.

When I go to Google Analytics, I saw that more than 100 people have visited my website in a few minutes, the worst, before 6 am, visitors from USA. It is not interesting !

ExpressVisits could bring me (divide) the traffic hour by hour from 7am to 10pm, like 10 visitors hourly, but not all the paid traffic in a few minutes while buyers are sleeping.

I ask myself if that traffic comes from real people, maybe bots that mimic traffic and click on my website links.

Waste of time, waste of money !

So sad ! I have learned my lesson.

 

[gandy]

Hi Jon99, I've decided to give it a try and see if your traffic if good and reliable. I've started with $20 and now after 2 days I've put $100 more. I noticed that all the traffic drops to fast, in about 10 minutes you will deliver about 300 visits and that's not so good. Considering that now I've put more money and I believe that I will keep using your services, would you please see if is possible to distribute the traffic along the day instead of all at once.

 

[jon99]

"Great dramatic scene Doug" + "more self cause"

To rightfully inform our supporters what has been really happening, and why the recent bash on our service, despite our 1 year+ of solid performance since opening up this service. Check reviews left on our thread on early pages and you can tell we have about 90% of positive reviews.

Just let me address this part of the message to my ex-teammate Doug (with us from August 2012-November 2012) [Warning M16]:

- You might not known, but all along even when BB was managing the thread, I was the technical guy processing the orders, and running the traffic. BB was helping out in sales, while I'm on technical. So yes all along you have been kissing the wrong ass. I'm apologize if my humble character further motivated you to made the wrong ass-kissing decision.

What Doug did:

- The award winning post made by him few posts up ("the angry client"). Thinking it might really be a client having trouble. I messaged him with the intention of giving him a sponsored result-collecting campaign (to determine whether it is our quality issue or his website) this 2 days ago: http://prntscr.com/3j258e, but no reply despite him openly declared to contact him and we can "work out the traffic quality issue", and his last online activity: http://prntscr.com/3j261e.

- On the exact same day, an ex-partner (Doug) contacted me out of the blue after a year to rejoin the team again: http://prntscr.com/3j2734

- Long story short, I asked a mod to run an IP check today and... they matched numbers by numbers.

- I've also gotten news from a friend and existing client of EV that he has also apparently created a Skype group with the declared interest for EV clients to "exchange tips", but with the actual purpose of gathering users to defame EV. Apparently it isn't that popular or effective, as user "509pixels" seems to be his only recruited guy. (Tip: The next time you wish to launch an attack like this, perhaps you shouldn't openly discuss details in a Skype group with public members you do not even know?)


An assumption on his purpose can possibly be to defame EV, and to hopefully try to make us think that we need old partners back to the team again? I can only assume. You as the viewer, judge.



PS: Congrats. Heard you made it to Oxford. No doubt on your intelligence. However, one thing schools can't teach is the right behavior (which gotten you out in the team in the first place).

 

[jon99]

More Self-cause?

- Obviously EV can be improved much better. There are less chances an enemy could attack our weak spots, if we have little to none weak spots at all.

- Some might say our traffic source is rubbish now, but I beg to differ. Most of you here are online entrepreneurs, so I am going to emphasize on our business situation here. I am going to be extremely straightforward here, as this post will probably sum up what kind of company EV is, and whether you should be investing your money with us from this point onwards.


Our business situation

Again highlighting #775 , our business direction has changed since v2.0. We found the business more sustainable working with the bigger guys. Why?

- Our traffic inventory works better with larger campaigns. We can obtain more traffic from top-tier content networks if your campaign is above 700 visits per day. Clients ordering 100-200 visits per day has greater chances of receiving traffic from the lower-tier network, therefore higher chance you'd claim the traffic as junk.

- 24hrs dripfeed is also doable with larger campaigns.

- We test our service in our own projects first, before releasing it to the public. Way back in 2011, we already have an online department setup that uses our own traffic in lucrative projects.

- Initially launched EV with the motivation not in the money, as our own projects are lucrative enough, but as a networking tool to connect with interested parties for Joint-Ventures.

- Price is also cheaper for campaigns that are under Joint-Venture, or other compensation agreements can be discussed.

- We have another department working on innovating unique traffic services that are not released anywhere before. When new services are created, we rather just make it available for those few VIP clients for usage, rather than the general public to avoid handling the painful service support. Although we have great and nice customers, that minority of ill-mannered ones are enough to ruin the day. (We admit we aren't the all-rounder service-oriented people ourselves.)


Lastly, EV is right for you if,

- Don't mind paying for the industry high (price per visits ratio) traffic prices in order to test if the traffic works for you.

- Motivated enough to submit a joint-venture proposal if the traffic works, and you wish to expand your business further. You get to pay a cheaper rate, and flexible conditions customized for your money-project.

- You intend to build a business relationship with us, and get updates on self-created next-generation traffic services launches.



PS: We are also not discrediting the smaller guys. Without your support, we might not have come this far. However, when you wish to get involve deeper with EV, try to think bigger.

 

[jon99]

Thanks to the big and continuous support we get from some of our loyal clients and friends, which has been giving us so much encouragement, despite the unfriendly changes we made to EV v2.0 due to B2B targeting.

Everyone have been saying that we could have gone much larger, if we have continued the service excellence from EV v1.0. We hope this time, we will be able to meet your expectations.

Initiating plans for EV v3.0, will be a fresh new starting point to end all the inconvenience and dramatic nonsense v2.0 have caused. The new direction will be focused to providing excellent services for the mass, and being user-friendly.