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hey ryan, I pm'ed you the other day about my order placed on the 9th. (transaction ID: 2MB******015). Haven't heard back. Also emailed ya.
 
Looks like your network got de-indexed. Only 11 sites from 40 I got are still alive.
 
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All orders from November are going to be filled via Juicer's Network 2. All of those sites are still indexed and even stronger than our network 1 sites. However, I'm contacting the admin right now about shutting down this service... because....

Our network was not hit with an algorithmic penalty. Exactly 40 sites were deindexed, which is exactly the size of our biggest package. All of our sites passed copyscape, and the sites that were deindexed were across several different hosting accounts.

Only possible conclusions....

1. The disavow tool - A ton of posts have been made here and on other internet marketing forums about it - look it up if you haven't heard about it. Basically it allows anyone to send the links to G and make up some BS excuse about their SEO guy screwing them, etc. when it was just really the fault of not keeping track of your keywords and not choosing to keep them under X %.

2. Reconsideration Request coming from Google Unnatural Link Penalty E-Mail - Someone panicked when they saw this e-mail headed to their money site and immediately filed a reconsideration request.

Anyways, it is even more shitty for us, than it is for you whomever dropped a bit of cash and have some missing links, trust us. Anyone who has been in the game long enough knows that shit happens when you are in the gray/black hat area. However, we are assuming that J2 will stay up for a long time, as we shut down orders for that in the future and decide what to do to avoid future problems.

Sorry guys, but the future of blog posting networks is very cloudy. With the disavow tool, any network that discloses its links is vulnerable to any 1 person. Since this network was secure for over 6 months, and we're confident that the problem was the result of 1 person reporting their links, we're going to open up a semi-private (10-12 people) blog posting network with a monthly fee. It will probably be 1 40 post or 2 20 posts per day for $500/month and all of your links will be handled by our writers and VA. If you're interested in this - contact us via juicersnetwork (at) gmail.com and we'll let you know more details. The benefit of this is that no one will be inclined to use that tool when it affects all of the sites they submit to the network, and hopefully, the cost will prevent people who would use that instead of just playing smart in the first place.
 
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Hi jtringer,

We had a few people order 10+ / 20 + packs of our service, which slowed everything down. However, we adjusted, hired a second writer, and now are getting orders right around the 10 day mark.

Your order will be done in 1-2 days.

Thank you for your business

Hi Ryan, I never recieved a report, but I do see links on majestic. Could you resend it to see if they are still indexed?
 
My first order with you in october, was delivered late and now the majority of the links have been deindexed. You say youll only replace the links from November, thats bollocks mate. Im not paying Hundreds of $$$ for links that last a few weeks.

2nd order, late. again. probably on the deindexed network.

No offense I dont have much confidence in your 2nd network. Please contact me and well discuss this further, im talking refunds here.
 
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Out of respect, I sent you PM and email first to discuss this but I got no reply. So I'll just post it here.

Your Refund Policy: you will only give refunds if you fail to deliver the service.

You failed to deliver my order, so I'll ask for refund. I know you have something going on in your end that needs your attention but I hope you can spare a little bit of time for me. Thanks
 
hi, I am asking for refund. it has been 17 days since i orderd from you. please send me back my money.you do not need to post my blog post. tx. will wait for my money today or at least tommorow.
 
Why do you not answer pms!!!! If you have a problem atleast get back to your customers who have paid you money. I would like a refund asap please
 
Here is how I'm looking at the refund policy. If some penalty transfers to our sites will you be able to remove the links?
 
Hello what happened? What is the status for my order? I want to know it immediately...
 
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I think the op just decided to ignore this thread, He's been online so I really can't think of any reason why he can't update this thread, or reply to PM and email.

I only got a reply, when I filed a dispute through paypal, and just a couple of minutes he replied to the dispute telling me that he will issue a refund, then gone missing again.

more than 24 hrs passed, no refund, no email, no pm, no update from seller.
 
He offered me refund then comes back and says he cant find my paypal transaction even though i gave him transaction id, and its clear hsi va even sent me an email to that id. Starting to get slightly fishy, please sort it out.
 
He offered me refund then comes back and says he cant find my paypal transaction even though i gave him transaction id, and its clear hsi va even sent me an email to that id. Starting to get slightly fishy, please sort it out.

LOL same here, after he asked my paypal email and my BHW forum ID, he vanished again. then his VA suddenly sent an email as if, I just ordered the service and telling me that my order is schedule to be posted now, just a bit delayed because of massive orders. IMHO 20+ days late is not a bit delayed. Besides I told them I dont want my link to be posted on their network2.

One more thing, OP has been online but why the hell can't he update us here. Is he expecting that if he don't reply here, and he already contacted a mod to close this and this thread will just die down and he can open a BST again with his $500 / m network?
 
LOL same here, after he asked my paypal email and my BHW forum ID, he vanished again. then his VA suddenly sent an email as if, I just ordered the service and telling me that my order is schedule to be posted now, just a bit delayed because of massive orders. IMHO 20+ days late is not a bit delayed. Besides I told them I dont want my link to be posted on their network2.

One more thing, OP has been online but why the hell can't he update us here. Is he expecting that if he don't reply here, and he already contacted a mod to close this and this thread will just die down and he can open a BST again with his $500 / m network?

Contacted mod, he is being dishonest, his loss anyway. Ill be patient for him to reply now and give him benefit of doubt since its weekend but beyond that I will submit a chargeback on paypal.
 
Contacted mod, he is being dishonest, his loss anyway. Ill be patient for him to reply now and give him benefit of doubt since its weekend but beyond that I will submit a chargeback on paypal.

I agree with you. Please OP, come here and respond to us.
 
Hello all--

Here is what is going on: My younger brother and I both run this business and over the last week to prepare our ecomm site for black friday, I had him take over posting duties and handling the mess on the forums. He's obviously been slacking due to going home for the holiday (we're in the USA and it's been Thanksgiving). I know that's no excuse, so I'm going to take care of everyone myself tomorrow, make sure all of the PMs have been responded to, and refund those who have asked for it. Thank you for your patience and sorry for the shitty service lately, that's not the norm when I handle things myself like normal.

-Ryan
 
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