Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[jkrillah]

Yes and sorry I dont want to sound so negative but if you look at their forums the software is just a FAIL the only postings are always about a bug or how to post articles but there never is any solutions or help how to use it..I also doubt 20 people got the PRO beta cos from the posts its just the same 2 people who also promote the software here on bhw all the time..i am wondering if it even exists?did they ever post screenshots of the PRO?

 

[SweTech]

Yes and sorry I dont want to sound so negative but if you look at their forums the software is just a FAIL the only postings are always about a bug or how to post articles but there never is any solutions or help how to use it..I also doubt 20 people got the PRO beta cos from the posts its just the same 2 people who also promote the software here on bhw all the time..i am wondering if it even exists?did they ever post screenshots of the PRO?

Enough for you?

 

[GreenGoblin]

In their forums just 3 (possibly more) posts were deleted where people complained how venomseo is a joke and the pro is promised since 2 months but never comes.. Maybe more posts were deleted i didnt check the forums too often but thats just the posts i saw. Many seem to be mad that they cannot use venom seo and are being led on about the pro which was promised to be released at an exact date now like 10 times already.

But we all know people who dont fulfill their promises usually are just too lazy or too incapable of ever having any success in life.

And that to me is really sad because the software did look promising!

If there's are minor/major issue before release (in this case minor) we find, we take time to fix them appreciate that!...most people that are complaining about the date of release are people who are having issues with a competitor software, and were sorry to hear that..however there issues with another software has nothing to do with us were not gonna release our customers a software or anybody else and know there's a bug that should have been fixed prior to release, we don't operate like that.

Other devs will do it to just to make a few people happy, and piss everyone else off, sorry we won't do that with that being said, the minor issue should have been fixed lastnight USA time, if it's fixed then PRO will be released today if it hasn't PRO release will roll into tomorrow and so on. You should be happy it's not all about the money with us it's about quality i think i said that before QUALITY QUALITY QUALITY!

After the release of Pro if there's issues they will be fixed ASAP but we won't release anything if we know there's a minor/major bug but again I say the last issue should have been fixed lastnight.

 

[Lanx]

there's a pic of Vpro somewhere floating around, i'm a customer i've been roped in to "waiting" for vpro, cuz imo vbot is just worthless to the "average" consumer. The manual is sparse and outdated, at first when ppl complained, they said read the manual, then they realized how horrible the manual was.
Then they made a "LAGGY" webinar training, oh dear lord it bored me to tears, no one knows how to speak? (honestly i didn't have the time to complete the training, so i cannot give a full review).
Really this program needs to have a training system in place to teach the user, actually there was a quick and dirty training video a member made, and that was a good 20minute video.
But at the level of complexity this program has, it just can't be "RTF!!! read the f'in manual"
No in order for the "TEAM" to justify months of delayed launch and promises of something better over the horizon the "TEAM" has to
1. offer better/faster customer support
2. offer updated databases (these are basically pre trained smf/phpbb forums so we don't have to individually spend hours teaching this horrible little program)
3. offer a training program that will quell the customer base.

 

[GreenGoblin]

there's a pic of Vpro somewhere floating around, i'm a customer i've been roped in to "waiting" for vpro, cuz imo vbot is just worthless to the "average" consumer. The manual is sparse and outdated, at first when ppl complained, they said read the manual, then they realized how horrible the manual was.
Then they made a "LAGGY" webinar training, oh dear lord it bored me to tears, no one knows how to speak? (honestly i didn't have the time to complete the training, so i cannot give a full review).
Really this program needs to have a training system in place to teach the user, actually there was a quick and dirty training video a member made, and that was a good 20minute video.
But at the level of complexity this program has, it just can't be "RTF!!! read the f'in manual"
No in order for the "TEAM" to justify months of delayed launch and promises of something better over the horizon the "TEAM" has to
1. offer better/faster customer support
2. offer updated databases (these are basically pre trained smf/phpbb forums so we don't have to individually spend hours teaching this horrible little program)
3. offer a training program that will quell the customer base.

you actually said a few things in this one little post that im sure contributes to your overall failure you said "venomseo is worthless to the average consumer" No! Venomseo is worthless to people who are not willing to learn and so is any other software for that matter. the fact you consider yourself to be average is a problem of it's own (Not being funny) true statement

Then you make the statement "sorry i did not complete the training so i can't give a full review however your giving a review, Well you haven't completed the training. So how should we feel about the review you shouldn't be giving?

My reason for a delay is fully justified, if there's a issue that we find prior to a release we won't release it, and i stand by that period. I'm sure any rational person will say that's a great reason

as far as customer support is concern paincake is very good at what he does, maybe the best thing for u to do is go back and read this thread over again.

Regarding updated databases, you have the tools to train databases yourself and be able to learn however you already told us you didn't finish the training, meaning you decided not to learn if you don't want to learn then u have to wait for us to train it.

 

[jkrillah]

Its always the customers fault....

If out of 100 people only 3 get some benefit out of VenomSEO its customers fault!!!!!

If VenomSEO cannot make a 1 hour video WITH SOUND and explanations within half a year ITS CUSTOMERS FAULT!!!

Its CUSTOMERS FAULT!!!! if in 2 months there has been 10 release dates for PRO Version but all were cancelled

CUSTOMERS FAULT if admins promise databases for some forums within 1-2 days and then never reply to the thread again for MONTHS even tho 5,6,7 customers keep asking whats up with it

Or maybe just heavy procrastinators at work

 

[Lanx]

you actually said a few things in this one little post that im sure contributes to your overall failure you said "venomseo is worthless to the average consumer" No! Venomseo is worthless to people who are not willing to learn and so is any other software for that matter. the fact you consider yourself to be average is a problem of it's own (Not being funny) true statement

Then you make the statement "sorry i did not complete the training so i can't give a full review however your giving a review, Well you haven't completed the training. So how should we feel about the review you shouldn't be giving?

My reason for a delay is fully justified, if there's a issue that we find prior to a release we won't release it, and i stand by that period. I'm sure any rational person will say that's a great reason

as far as customer support is concern paincake is very good at what he does, maybe the best thing for u to do is go back and read this thread over again.

Regarding updated databases, you have the tools to train databases yourself and be able to learn however you already told us you didn't finish the training, meaning you decided not to learn if you don't want to learn then u have to wait for us to train it.

stop trying to defend and use this to better the customer service instead of trying to attack, because that is what venom is lacking customer service, dear lord it's not my fault i can't learn from a laggy video that stops every 10s to load up because someone thought using teamviewer to record was cool, is it too difficult to just have a few ppl on skype and loading up camtasia and making a proper training video with a microphone?

again, the path to learning is difficult because there are numerous roadblocks. for instance there is the lack of material, you have "dig" and find stuff in order to kind of understand, then there's the lack of examples or anything, just
"here's a database, now go train it"

how am i supposed to train something, that i don't even know how to do it myself?
---go read the manual
i did, it was sparse and barely said anything worthwhile
---wait for a training video
i did, it was so difficult to learn from it, then i'd just waste time with the "LAG"
---wait for the next video

again the major flaw in venomseo is the implementation of training program to train the user, if there was a decent training program, then "some" issues might be thwarted. Maybe then we can work on customer service instead of just defending the software.

 

[zen19]

@jkrillah - I have received a few reports of you threadshitting in this and other BST threads. Please stop your shouty moaning, it detracts from threads. As a rule, talk based on YOUR experiences, stop making assumptions about everyone else. If I see any more offtopic, exagerated, SHOUTY!!!!, or posts with sweeping generalisations, you will get an infraction.

Your post should read:

I dont want to follow the support video, as I expect something different, I need sound. I dont want to train the software, as I want the developers to do that for me; I am incapable of doing this myself. I want an unfinished version to be released, becuase even although its not finished, it will solve my problems magically. I will insult the developers, as my failures above are clearly on their shoulders.

If you want your views to carry weight, express them more professionally. This is not open for discussion, any offtopic replies in response to this will be given infractions.

 

[GreenGoblin]

Its always the customers fault....

If out of 100 people only 3 get some benefit out of VenomSEO its customers fault!!!!!

If VenomSEO cannot make a 1 hour video WITH SOUND and explanations within half a year ITS CUSTOMERS FAULT!!!

Its CUSTOMERS FAULT!!!! if in 2 months there has been 10 release dates for PRO Version but all were cancelled

CUSTOMERS FAULT if admins promise databases for some forums within 1-2 days and then never reply to the thread again for MONTHS even tho 5,6,7 customers keep asking whats up with it

Or maybe just heavy procrastinators at work

1. if there's 100 people and only 3 people who benefit from VenomSeo and that's very far fetched however I'll entertain the idea that only 3 people benefit from Venomseo that means that 97 people, 1 of 2 things happen.
They gave up, or there not willing to learn as the other 3 did which will dictate failure or success with venomeo like anything else in life and I have a great example for you look lanx post right above he just simply gave up, his overall result failure.

2. As said before, you are giving the tools to train databases, we don't stop you from moving forward, you stop yourself from moving forward if you don't want to learn it cool.

3. Release dates that are cancel because of issues, well it happens welcome to software development.

4. There's alot of people who loved the videos that we currently have and some that don't that's how that goes there's one thing I realized I can never make 100% of the people happy.

 

[jkrillah]

I will keep voicing my opinion in the exact same way because in this case it saves BHW users from spending their money on a as advertised "1-click" program that cannot even create accounts with less than 100 clicks. Not to start with posting that isnt possible AT ALL.

If you dont want such posts , where we warn fellow BHW members of shitty services on here, delete me !

 

[zen19]

I will keep voicing my opinion in the exact same way because in this case it saves BHW users from spending their money on a as advertised "1-click" program that cannot even create accounts with less than 100 clicks. Not to start with posting that isnt possible AT ALL.

If you dont want such posts , where we warn fellow BHW members of shitty services on here, delete me !

OK bye.

 

[GreenGoblin]

stop trying to defend and use this to better the customer service instead of trying to attack, because that is what venom is lacking customer service, dear lord it's not my fault i can't learn from a laggy video that stops every 10s to load up because someone thought using teamviewer to record was cool, is it too difficult to just have a few ppl on skype and loading up camtasia and making a proper training video with a microphone?

again, the path to learning is difficult because there are numerous roadblocks. for instance there is the lack of material, you have "dig" and find stuff in order to kind of understand, then there's the lack of examples or anything, just
"here's a database, now go train it"

how am i supposed to train something, that i don't even know how to do it myself?
---go read the manual
i did, it was sparse and barely said anything worthwhile
---wait for a training video
i did, it was so difficult to learn from it, then i'd just waste time with the "LAG"
---wait for the next video

again the major flaw in venomseo is the implementation of training program to train the user, if there was a decent training program, then "some" issues might be thwarted. Maybe then we can work on customer service instead of just defending the software.

I don't know if you know, but ill shed some light on that video...it was never ment to be a training video, it was a seminar that reinrein had for people who wanted to learn how to train DB's swetech did us a favor to record the seminar for others that didn't get a chance to see it, i explained that before, if u have issues or don't understand after watching the video's best thing to do is ask support let me ask you a question how many times have you contacted support on skype which he is online everyday with questions and concerns?

 

[Lanx]

1. if there's 100 people and only 3 people who benefit from VenomSeo and that's very far fetched however I'll entertain the idea that only 3 people benefit from Venomseo that means that 97 people, 1 of 2 things happen.
They gave up, or there not willing to learn as the other 3 did which will dictate failure or success with venomeo like anything else in life and I have a great example for you look lanx post right above he just simply gave up, his overall result failure.

2. As said before, you are giving the tools to train databases, we don't stop you from moving forward, you stop yourself from moving forward if you don't want to learn it cool.

3. Release dates that are cancel because of issues, well it happens welcome to software development.

4. There's alot of people who loved the videos that we currently have and some that don't that's how that goes there's one thing I realized I can never make 100% of the people happy.

who said i failed, i did not, proper training and materials is what is lacking in venomseo, how can i fail when there is no benchmark.
in fact i was able to train a phpbb database, it completely updated the whole profile and everything, heck that was great, then i moved on to smf, totally different, had to try to find info on that, nuttin.
loaded up the databases from the site, that updated smf database did... nuttin, doesn't update any profile, nuttin, where's the learning material?
so how am i failing?
by waiting for venom to produce training materials and proper manuals?
that's all i'm waiting for, for venom to realize that if it does have a program that works, it has to implement a training system for the user to fully utilize the program.

 

[GreenGoblin]

who said i failed, i did not, proper training and materials is what is lacking in venomseo, how can i fail when there is no benchmark.
in fact i was able to train a phpbb database, it completely updated the whole profile and everything, heck that was great, then i moved on to smf, totally different, had to try to find info on that, nuttin.
loaded up the databases from the site, that updated smf database did... nuttin, doesn't update any profile, nuttin, where's the learning material?
so how am i failing?
by waiting for venom to produce training materials and proper manuals?
that's all i'm waiting for, for venom to realize that if it does have a program that works, it has to implement a training system for the user to fully utilize the program.

Ok? so you admit that VenomSeo does work and you have successfully trained databases and updated them and your having issues with a DB training of SMF right? ok, now we are getting down to the bottom of your issues it's not that venomseo doesn't work your just having a few problems now this we can work with you see how easy that was...you could have easily just said greengoblin I'm having issues training SMF and need help can u provide me some support and I would have sent paincake your way to help you out, rather then going on a unprofessional rant anyway i will tell paincake look at the issue your having to resolve it for you. send me your skype id via pm

 

[Lanx]

Ok? so you admit that VenomSeo does work and you have successfully trained databases and updated them and your having issues with a DB training of SMF right? ok, now we are getting down to the bottom of your issues it's not that venomseo doesn't work your just having a few problems now this we can work with you see how easy that was...you could have easily just said greengoblin I'm having issues training SMF and need help can u provide me some support and I would have sent paincake your way to help you out, rather then going on a unprofessional rant anyway i will tell paincake look at the issue your having to resolve it for you.

i've never said it doesn't work, my main point of contention is that currently there is no system in place that venom has to train the customer properly on how to use this admittedly powerful but difficult to use software (since it is being compared to xrumer, paraphrase swetech in a different post). There are tons of programs out there, even many many bad WSO's, but they provide excellent training, you could actually say they provide too much training. As i said, i read the manual, i went through all the "intro" 1-6 or 7 videos in the training section and there was that great 20minute customer made video, that got me through to creating a phpbb forum, posted/updated everything was perfect.
then did the smf, went crazy over it, checked the forums, others seemed to have an issue, so i just decided to wait, and pick up other numerous things i have to do to learn.
that's not me failing, that's me going, "we'll there seems to be a concensus that there's an issue with the smf2.0 so i'll just wait it out and learn something else while they get it sorted"

*edit*
and i think you're getting me confused with the other guy in the thread that was just banned.

 

[GreenGoblin]

i've never said it doesn't work, my main point of contention is that currently there is no system in place that venom has to train the customer properly on how to use this admittedly powerful but difficult to use software (since it is being compared to xrumer, paraphrase swetech in a different post). There are tons of programs out there, even many many bad WSO's, but they provide excellent training, you could actually say they provide too much training. As i said, i read the manual, i went through all the "intro" 1-6 or 7 videos in the training section and there was that great 20minute customer made video, that got me through to creating a phpbb forum, posted/updated everything was perfect.
then did the smf, went crazy over it, checked the forums, others seemed to have an issue, so i just decided to wait, and pick up other numerous things i have to do to learn.
that's not me failing, that's me going, "we'll there seems to be a concensus that there's an issue with the smf2.0 so i'll just wait it out and learn something else while they get it sorted"

please send me your skypeid via pm so tech support can iron out your issues

Thanks

 

[GreenGoblin]

I cancelled Senuke X cos I was unhappy with it.

Then I tried Venom and it was a complete joke. You shall sell this as a complex automation tool for programmers and people with too much time, but do not sell it as an seo tool.

Am back to Senuke X now and feel that every cent of the now 149$ a month is worth it.Just no other software delivers such amazing results with ease!

I didn't really understand this post, but im glad u found something that suited your needs

 

[BH_Manic]

I cancelled Senuke X cos I was unhappy with it.

Then I tried Venom and it was a complete joke. You shall sell this as a complex automation tool for programmers and people with too much time, but do not sell it as an seo tool.

Am back to Senuke X now and feel that every cent of the now 149$ a month is worth it.Just no other software delivers such amazing results with ease!

Sorry buddy but have you read anything about the software before trying Venom?

SenukeX and VenomSEO are two completely different type of bots and you are expecting Venom to do like SenukeX...chill and wait for PRO...then compare!

 

[xeromidas]

OK..lots of BS and trolling from the last 20 post. and let me tell you something ( using google trnaslate + fix)

I held the trial of this software (later the subscription was canceled by magic, but was a paypal, credit card issue) and probably by itself does not have much potential. But after reading the manual and watch training videos (which I hope to improve) I found the gold mine that is this software. 100% coachable. If you have the brain to mount a campaign and win 20 dollars a day, you can the most of this tool (Unique btw).

About seovenom pro, well ... I think that programmers have always wanted to offer the best, and perhaps they were wrong to give dates for release. But keep in mind that this tool will be an alternative to SenukeX, and it is best to save many dollars in captcha solving. Therefore, I think there is a lot of work involve and if they need to take more time to deliver a quality product, then I think they should.

My 2 cents

 

[kirkonpolttaja]

Where did all these SEO "experts" come from!?!?

VenomSEO team is doing excelent work cause they have answered to all bugs and issues with the software, and usually they even bother to answer to the issue thread "ok mate, we have fixed those problems, we will put updates online so you guys are good to go"... There was earlier problems with special characters, but when i reported about it, it was fixed in few days after that (dont know if it was cause of my post or was it planned update before my issue submit), in my books this is very good thing that developers listens to their clients and want to get stuff working ASAP.

Alot of people complain about databases... but IMHO, i love it!<3 it is fun to teach this software to register on forums on your native language Yes it needs few days to take your time with VenomSEO to get that "click" in your head so you know that what is this all about, and because of this people who dont bother to educate themselfs will complain: "why in the hell you say this is click 1 button solution!?!??! i had to use my brains!!"

For those who already has adapted database training, wait until you get into REGEX!!! it was little hard to understand first, but HELL! it was VERY fun and i was very suprised that how flexible that is, doing unique usernames and emails, password!

Here is my personal cons pros:

PROS
-FAST
-Powerfull
-Flexible (can do much more than only forum profiles!! bookmarking, blog commenting, articles!)
-Developers are succesfull in IM, so i think they know what would be ideal software for IM, and yes, ideal software is VenomSEO
-Will work eventough updates would stop coming cause your the one who teaches the software
-Cheap monthly payment
-Support is usually very fast, i like that skype room where we can chat and network.
-Devs are making it more efficient every day

CONS
-Some few random crashes (mostlikely it is fixed in next update)
-You have to use your braaaaaains
-I have it on standalone installation folder(? dont know if this is a con) Feels little nostalgic to have full software in .RAR file i get recollections from lan party times when we shared age of empire 2 and warcraft 3 via slow network cable haha... BUT!!! there is official installer that will come BACK online when some things are fixed i think.


If you keep on using this and master this piece of software, there is huge possibility that you might just give middle finger to your boss at day job cause you will get good income using this software, selling services or ranking your own sites.

This will be THE "next scrapebox", SEO multitool for success

Also, SquidProxies allows VenomSEO! they dont allow xrumer!

GG,Paincake,rest of the team, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!

sorry for grammar, i write alot of errors when i'm hyped!