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where is this guy??
after 18 days of payment and endless waiting finally he delivered the site on friday and it wasn exactly the way i wanted, he said he will work on the changes.. havnt heard back in 3 -4 days..
today i login to my hosting account i cant find any files in it.. was on there till liek 15mins ago..

very bad communication.. occassionally keeps poppin in his yahoo chat never responds..
appears online on this forum on and off no response yet..


what a great service lol..
7 days time for a website- ordered- paid 150$
waited 4 days to first get a response saying "yes i am working on it "
then on day 12 another response saying "yes i am working on it"
then 18 days later he puts it up on my hosting.. now i cant find the site .. wonder if he is workin on the changes i asked him to ? on the 18th day he requested i removed my negative comments on his thread.. told him please finish the work and once it is all done i would happily take those away.. and give a review on what i actually got even after all the endless delays..


seriously communicating with this guy is so bad.. god knows what is happening lol
you flip from thinkin -"did i get scammed ?? from a service approved on the BHW -services for sale" then to later "yay i have my website" then back to "am i getting scammed?"
i really wish this guy wud send an email or atleast a message.. takes 2 mins to communicate with your clients.. without that i dunno how this guy does any kind of business..
 
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can you please respond to the PM OR the offline yahoo message OR the email plz..
 
ok i forwarded this to a moderator.. the guy isnt responding tried to contact him in all possible ways and been patient long enough since i paid on may 26th and its june 14th today.
 
Moderator - what is going on?
We would like to get an update on what is happening with WTF, this service, etc.

Thanks.

also - scottx1995 - plz inform us what goes on and will u get your refund.

thanks :)
 
well i have finally heard from my bank that i used for the transaction to WTF back in April. Here is their response after 9 weeks!!!
Thank you for your e-message received 16 June 2011.

I notice from our records that the relevant department had completed their investigation and 2 letters have been sent to you dated 1 June 2011 and 15 June 2011 regarding the dispute.

As per the letter dated 15 June 2011, the investigation department has confirmed that the transaction has initially been authorised by you and bank will not be liable for the quality of services you have received from the retailer.

As you have given your card details to the merchant, you have entered into a direct agreement with the retailer, and you would need to contact them for a refund of your payment.

As a bank, I regret, I am unable to assist in a dispute between yourself and the retailer. We are not in a position to request a refund on your behalf. If you remain unsuccessful in your attempts to obtain a refund, may I suggest that you contact the Citizens Advice Bureau or Trading Standards for further information on how you may proceed.

Please accept my sincere apologies that we are unable to assist you in this dispute.

so thats that!!!

ps did any of you guys that had sites built get the access codes to the site??
 
I knew this shit was too good to be true....

I was gunna say something but did not want people saying..."HATER"....

I know where he is getting the traffic from and you can not use that traffic and not get banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can use it in small doses, but he was saying its complete safe....

What a Joke... BAN THE GUY!
 
Tnx dibley69 for the info u provided!

I wish best luck to u in getting your refund somehow, if u r still chasing it.


IamNRE - I sent you PM. Thanks :)
 
dibley69 said:
this is the guys "company"
Ranzuken Marketing
Van Duzer st
Staten Island NY 10304
UNITED STATES
http://www.exposureking.com/

i have tried to contact them but obviously he hasnt responded
he is also on facebook here:
Ranzuken Blackhatguide
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000388157280
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I will go visit if you want. New York isn't that far from me.
 
I only ordered a website from him he put it up on my hosting account and everything is ok.
although it took him aroun 20 days to first put up the website.
and then i had wanted some changes made he said he ll get it done and then i didn hear back from him.. after 1 more week mysteriously the changes were made.
he hardly replied 4-5 times during the course of a month for a service that was advertised to be done in 7 days.. started inching towards this being a scam after he stopped responding but at the end of the day i did get the website made.
although it delayed a lot of other things i planned to have done assumin that the work wud be completed in 7days.

oh well.. good luck to the rest.
 
Why all people in this thread saying as if WTF is a scammer, just because of their acc banned?

I think if you know what you're paying for the service, then looks like you gonna get a website with unique design but with guarantee traffic, in which is guaranteed adsense income from 2 source, normal & extreme targeted traffic right?

So if all saying these traffic made your acc banned, please prove them. We all know, even a legit traffic have the risk. Like somebody clicking on same add fraudulently.

Questions:
- Can WTF have an access to the account too?
- Does WTF guarantee you will receive xxx of clicks?

I think as long he's not giving these promised & the account still get banned, I still don't see why most of you accuse him scammer? I already got my earnings from the service...not big...but ~$500 a month is enough for me
 
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Hey guys,

First of all I would just like to do a formal apology to all of those who were not able to get in touch with me. Being such a large forum as Blackhatworld, and keeping in touch with all of the clients was a handful and quite hard to keep up sometimes with all of the emails. I have just gotten finished with a big client and wanted to apologize again for not replying to the message boards as most of my time was concentrated working hand in hands with clients on yahoo messenger.

Refunds - Those of you who are looking for a refund, I apologize but there are no refunds. I have created your websites specifically to what you wanted them to be, and also sent the traffic as directed. There are many reasons why adsense might have banned your account, and once again I do apologize for that as it can be a very painful experience to go through sometimes. I am still working with many clients who have still gotten paid from day one that I've started this thread. I cannot give a valid reason why adsense would go through and ban your accounts (unless they have their own reasons of doing so). As far as the traffic is concerned, as far as it's constant and keeping regular checks and balances I don't think you should have a problem with such networks as adsense. In relation to refunds, your accounts might have been banned due to some of the guidelines within adsense which may or may not have caused a difference in the way they looked at your account.

Here are some reasons as I have gathered by those who have been getting paid for months (even one client is up to 5 months already thousands of dollars in earnings on 2 websites).

#1 - Your accout might've been banned because you shared it with your friends who possibly might've clicked on your ads multiple times
#2 - Your website might have been subject to been of suspicious activity due to some visitors who visit and click multiple ads simultaneously (as it being a new site it can be a bit suspicious)
#3 - You might've clicked on your own ads (Most common case)
#4 - You might've bought your account from a source who has possibly gone under in which adsense has caught up to
#5 - You might've had multiple accounts which maybe as you were clearing cookies, flash cookies, changing ips, etc. adsense was possibly able to track you down somehow (maybe mac address?)...
#6 - There are many multiple reasons why adsense might have done this, and I apologize if it might have caused some inconvenience.

As far as your websites being built, I have created them as per instructions within the thread which is to build a HTML/CSS website based on your niche, and send traffic to it. Any other affiliate program / adsense / CPA / Clickbank is solely entirely up to you. I do not have control over how you market your affiliate accounts, but I can create your websites and send targeted traffic to it.

** What really upset me, was that some of you who have gotten paid through adsense already is now asking for a refund after your account has been shut down - If you might've done something with your adsense account that possibly had adsense do this, maybe it might've caused some red flags and I'm sorry for that but don't ask me for a refund especially after you've gotten paid already. The service was to create a website for you which can convert to make money on the internet **

Just like anything in the internet marketing world as you guys already know that there isn't a guarantee especially for affiliate networks. If you are working with affiliate networks such as adsense there is always a chance that you might get banned. The only way to go through this is to find out what you did wrong (or find out what you didn't do) and continue forward. There are clients right now making good 4 figures off of this service already but they have also gone above and beyond to keeping their websites up to their game and at their best. The only way to go about this is to move on and find out how to do better in the affiliate network such as adsense. In terms of my service, I have created your website and sent targeted traffic to your sites. Once again I do apologize for those who have lost their accounts and if you wish to contact me on yahoo to discuss what you can do to improve or possibly use another network please feel free to do so. Once again I will be online on yahoo all day today just send me a message - lalamaple

Thanks
 
WebTrafficFire said:
Hey guys,

First of all I would just like to do a formal apology to all of those who were not able to get in touch with me. Being such a large forum as Blackhatworld, and keeping in touch with all of the clients was a handful and quite hard to keep up sometimes with all of the emails. I have just gotten finished with a big client and wanted to apologize again for not replying to the message boards as most of my time was concentrated working hand in hands with clients on yahoo messenger.

Refunds - Those of you who are looking for a refund, I apologize but there are no refunds. I have created your websites specifically to what you wanted them to be, and also sent the traffic as directed. There are many reasons why adsense might have banned your account, and once again I do apologize for that as it can be a very painful experience to go through sometimes. I am still working with many clients who have still gotten paid from day one that I've started this thread. I cannot give a valid reason why adsense would go through and ban your accounts (unless they have their own reasons of doing so). As far as the traffic is concerned, as far as it's constant and keeping regular checks and balances I don't think you should have a problem with such networks as adsense. In relation to refunds, your accounts might have been banned due to some of the guidelines within adsense which may or may not have caused a difference in the way they looked at your account.

Here are some reasons as I have gathered by those who have been getting paid for months (even one client is up to 5 months already thousands of dollars in earnings on 2 websites).

#1 - Your accout might've been banned because you shared it with your friends who possibly might've clicked on your ads multiple times
#2 - Your website might have been subject to been of suspicious activity due to some visitors who visit and click multiple ads simultaneously (as it being a new site it can be a bit suspicious)
#3 - You might've clicked on your own ads (Most common case)
#4 - You might've bought your account from a source who has possibly gone under in which adsense has caught up to
#5 - You might've had multiple accounts which maybe as you were clearing cookies, flash cookies, changing ips, etc. adsense was possibly able to track you down somehow (maybe mac address?)...
#6 - There are many multiple reasons why adsense might have done this, and I apologize if it might have caused some inconvenience.

As far as your websites being built, I have created them as per instructions within the thread which is to build a HTML/CSS website based on your niche, and send traffic to it. Any other affiliate program / adsense / CPA / Clickbank is solely entirely up to you. I do not have control over how you market your affiliate accounts, but I can create your websites and send targeted traffic to it.

** What really upset me, was that some of you who have gotten paid through adsense already is now asking for a refund after your account has been shut down - If you might've done something with your adsense account that possibly had adsense do this, maybe it might've caused some red flags and I'm sorry for that but don't ask me for a refund especially after you've gotten paid already. The service was to create a website for you which can convert to make money on the internet **

Just like anything in the internet marketing world as you guys already know that there isn't a guarantee especially for affiliate networks. If you are working with affiliate networks such as adsense there is always a chance that you might get banned. The only way to go through this is to find out what you did wrong (or find out what you didn't do) and continue forward. There are clients right now making good 4 figures off of this service already but they have also gone above and beyond to keeping their websites up to their game and at their best. The only way to go about this is to move on and find out how to do better in the affiliate network such as adsense. In terms of my service, I have created your website and sent targeted traffic to your sites. Once again I do apologize for those who have lost their accounts and if you wish to contact me on yahoo to discuss what you can do to improve or possibly use another network please feel free to do so. Once again I will be online on yahoo all day today just send me a message - lalamaple

Thanks
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I bought from you on the basis of your claim of guaranteed !!!!! income this hasn't happened so therefore i have paid for a service i haven't received!!
If i went to a carwash and asked them to clean my car whilst i went for a coffee as they guaranteed they would make it shine and i returned and it wasn't cleaned then would i pay???
Just PM with with the Wordpress admin codes for the site you built for me as i have no access to it!!!!!!!
 
Hello all,

I bought the blue package and the service was delivered as promised site + traffic (ongoing),right now the income is around 4-5 USD/day(which I expect that will grow over time).

WebTrafficFire is very busy as he has a lot of orders so be patient guys because from my exp he is a nice guy and he delivers what he promises.

I have one question ,if I order more traffic like >2000 unique users on my new adsense enabled site would this have any impact on my adsense account(like a ban:)
 
I have been waiting 4 1/2 months from purchase date to receive everything I ordered!
I received a low quality - quickly thrown together website and nothing else, the first article on the website isn't even related to the website theme or niche! The website is not at all how I want it, and I Haven't received any traffic.

I know he was under a lot of stress at the time because of all the orders placed at once but I figured after 4 months I would already be making income from this, so far I have lost $200 and would like a 100% refund!

Trying to get ahold of WTF as you all know isn't easy!
so WTF if you ever get this I would like a refund asap
if not ill go talk to my bank!

Thanks!

 
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