Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[eti170]

Little Review,

I bought a 10k pack and it seem that some visitor... do not really appear

Using AC the count appear as this

Friday, October 16, 2009 1
Saturday, October 17, 2009 55
Sunday, October 18, 2009 5
Monday, October 19, 2009 25
Tuesday, October 20, 2009 31
Wednesday, October 21, 2009 49
Thursday, October 22, 2009 74
Friday, October 23, 2009 52

Total : 292
And your stats say

Daily Visitors Report​

Saturday, October 24 2009 05:34:24 pm​

Campaign Number 25816​

DateVisitors





Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:33:24 -0700 110

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:55:19 -0700 206

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:55:11 -0700 185

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:56:29 -0700 157

Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:11 -0700 148

Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:56:37 -0700 112

Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:10:49 -0700 4

Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:58:44 -0700 1

Your total : 979

Is it normal ? I understand that the count cannot be perfectly equal, but why is the difference so big ?

 

[nimbus49]

how does the full page show ? interstial ads ?

All traffic is redirected from domain names, expired, and ones purchased for the network.

All traffic is redirected from those domain names into the traffic server, which filters down to campaigns within the server.

It's just as they visited your site, full page view, no others showing at the same time.

It's as if someone typed in your url, that's how fast the redirect works.

 

[nimbus49]

I seem to be getting about 200 uniques a day useing statcounter.com

like 50 with google analytics.

ISnt the 100k package supposed to send like 700?

Is statcounter another counter that doesnt work well with this traffic?

thanks

Right.....the real visitors are in your cpanel. This is all explained in my opening thread (which no one ever reads!)

You are really getting the traffic!!

 

[geese.sherman]

Just to share some of the results im getting with this service... Google analytics declares that in the last two weeks of using this service, they've tracked 500 visitors, 100% bounce rate, 50% new visitors. my alexa is improving it appears though.. dont know if its because of this service or just because of my regular visitors.

 

[nimbus49]

Just to share some of the results im getting with this service... Google analytics declares that in the last two weeks of using this service, they've tracked 500 visitors, 100% bounce rate, 50% new visitors. my alexa is improving it appears though.. dont know if its because of this service or just because of my regular visitors.

That's great! Although the big G doesn't track so well with this traffic, the Aleaxa rating is one important reason to use this traffic.

 

[nimbus49]

Ok so the traffic isnt verifiable by any other counter but your own (definitestats cpanel).

My logs report WAY less that what your cpanel is reporting.

So, how can you call a visit a visit when my server doesnt even fire off a page?


Im using statcounter, google analytics, awstats as well as my raw logs to look at this 'traffic'.

They are reporting less than 25% of what your cpanel says its sending.


If the traffic aint countable at my end, its not traffic now is it?


Heres a DP post about you scamming people over there too, just under a different nick, but your link still points to definitestats.com.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=839822&page=3

And heres Twisted756 displaying the definitestats.com link.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=816934

This guy is a goof. You dont have traffic to sell.

Too bad you just over-stepped yourself.

I am not who you say I am on DP. I was going to work this out with you, but since you are accusing me of being someone else....it's over pal.

I've worked real hard on this forum and I have the itraders to prove it. I don't need a little puke like you slandering my reputation.

Also, any reference to DP doesn't belong on this forum, nor do links to DP.

I also have pm'd you my DP name.

 

[doshosting]

Wow Mike, that guy is a jerk above! I haven't been around in awhile, and now I come back to see that you have a jerk posting on your thread. I wouldn't expect to see this here on BHW, but he seems to be a DP member, so you get the DP comment. Maybe someone should tell him that he's not on DP anymore. I also see he thinks your someone else on DP, now that's funny. I know who you are on DP, which I don't think you've been posting over there in awhile. I stopped using DP because of people being mean to each other. I know there's a lot of good people still on DP, but they need to get the bad ones out. And BHW for the most part has been clean, but every now and again we get a rollover from DP "gripex" here on BHW.

As for his claim that his stats are off with statcounter and awstats he's way off. My results are just about dead with my cpanel provided. As for google, I don't use them for stats, how many stat counters do you really need running on your site.

Mike - Keep up this great service, don't let this guy get the best of you. I know you try to satisfy everyone, but you know what, it's just not possiable!

 

[plateau]

One person is not going to give the op a bad rep. I'd rather believe the majority and my own experiences with the service. So i'm going to order traffic for 10k and be the judge myself. PM sent.

 

[nimbus49]

You are sending about 25% of what you say you are sending. GIve me a break. "Google doesnt track well" lol, your full of shit, no counter other then your own, tracks this traffic.


I knew this traffic would suck, its supposed to be junk traffic, i get that.


But when my server doesnt even send pages out, that means the 'traffic' aint even showing up.

I ordered 100k and i shoulda seen this one coming.

and ya, you are twisted756 on DP.

I pm'd you my DP user name........WTF is the matter with you?
Are you looking for a fight?

You never read my opening ad explaining about G-analytics and statcounter.

So, how come I have so many itraders and happy repeat customers?

 

[nimbus49]

Why are you getting mad? im just doing a review. Showing exact traffic numbers that are showing up...



And you say that statcounter lags behind, well, lagging behind doesnt mean 25%... lagging behind means its slow to report...



I was under the impression that G analytics was the only one that didnt report properly... but apparently, no counter can track this traffic like your cpanel one, thats a LITTLE suspect, dont ya think??

hahahaha......why am I getting mad?

You say my traffic sucks and claim I'm someone else from DP and you expect me to sit here and not boil over?

I think you need some serious soul searching regarding your motives.

OK....that's enough of this conversation

 

[xplicit]

I have worked with Mike in the past and have bought many campaigns from him. His rep and feedback speaks for itself. Dont let 1 person who either dont know what hes doing or dont know how to read stats try and smear a member with the rep Mike has.

He is a satnd up guy who I know has never done anything to screw people. He dont need to. I am sure he would have worked it out with you somehow if you would have been civil about it. But going about it like a (BEEP) isnt the way.

Anyway. Mike provides good service and is a stand up guy.

 

[jagreen78]

Little Review,

I bought a 10k pack and it seem that some visitor... do not really appear

Using AC the count appear as this

Friday, October 16, 2009 1
Saturday, October 17, 2009 55
Sunday, October 18, 2009 5
Monday, October 19, 2009 25
Tuesday, October 20, 2009 31
Wednesday, October 21, 2009 49
Thursday, October 22, 2009 74
Friday, October 23, 2009 52

Total : 292
And your stats say

Daily Visitors Report​

Saturday, October 24 2009 05:34:24 pm​

Campaign Number 25816​

DateVisitors





Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:33:24 -0700 110

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:55:19 -0700 206

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:55:11 -0700 185

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:56:29 -0700 157

Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:05:11 -0700 148

Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:56:37 -0700 112

Sun, 18 Oct 2009 02:10:49 -0700 4

Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:58:44 -0700 1

Your total : 979

Is it normal ? I understand that the count cannot be perfectly equal, but why is the difference so big ?

that's because you're all getting ripped off by this shit head

 

[nimbus49]

See....the problem here is that none of you people read my opening thread:

"Adsense Safe, Google Analytics does not track so well - AW Stats and Statcounter lag behind, as well. Your c-panel that you receive will show the correct traffic amount!"

So you're really pissed at yourself. I am not ripping off anybody.

I've explained time and time again about the counters!

Sop trying to discredit me and go back to where you belong- DP

 

[tygrus]

Flame war aside, I would like to know if this traffic is suitable for article views at AC or something?

 

[RamChaturvedi]

You're telling me to go back to DP? you're the one who used to advertise there, remember, until you got banned.

You're a goof.

Well i have also been using his traffic on many sites and its is working awesome to me atleast!! The traffic is coming the same to what he told me in the starting and no BS i found regarding his service yet!!

Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:52:54 -0700 69

Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:47:07 -0700 157

Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:35:55 -0700 159

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:54:57 -0700 230

Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:49:08 -0700 177

Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:56:23 -0700 151

Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:09:26 -0700 175

Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:44:54 -0700 101

This is one my site stats which i checked just now and i dont think its low in any way. It can be a fault in your hosting or whatever i don't know but its working good to me!!

 

[doshosting]

It's not the same guy, this other guy is just making trouble. All his claims haven't been proven, that I can see. Don't worry haven't had a problem yet, and don't think I ever will.

oh he got banned on DP ?

I have bought the traffic yesterday. Will test it out. But seriously enough, comparing between the stats vs google is a bit far off. I dun even get that far off with smartadspace LOL

 

[bigluv]

Uhm, so the OP says that people are stupid for "not reading his opening post" , which only states, that, no counter except his magical counter can count the traffic, which is how he charges you.

Then someone else steps up and says, hey, my server isnt getting touched by these magical hits that don't show up on any other counters.

I for one would like to hear a reasonable explanation, why the OP can't deliver traffic that shows up in regular counters. [by his own admission]. Perhaps there's some kind of technical reason? I would try this service, but not with this kind of "because I say so" logic going around. There's always lots of cases of guys with some itraders and some posts that don't turn out as well as advertised sometime in the future. Circumstances change.

I think the onus should be on the OP to explain why his traffic can't be properly counted by any stats programs except his own. otherwise any reasonable person can only come to the conclusion, that , the rate of attrition on this traffic is horrendous, and either takes too long to deliver so people close, or gets chained, or something similar.

Love to hear any facts here though.

 

[eti170]

that's because you're all getting ripped off by this shit head

You're post s*ck. Thank you for ruining bhw

Dude, I was only doing a review. I think it is important that people really understand that Mike is telling the truth, other stat counter doesn't work well because of the kind of traffic (we would all like to know why of course!!). It is simply a fact, he cannot control this. I still think that his service his pretty good.

Of course, it would be cool to have a review of the % of visit depending of the stats counter (google, ac, bukisa and other).

Flame war aside, I would like to know if this traffic is suitable for article views at AC or something?

Yes it would work, but you won't get an easy 9$ (10 000 views) turned in 15$ (1.50$ per 1000 view *depending of your clout level of course)... yeah I know it's sad... it would be some easy money, maybe if you buy enough visit, it might get you some money! Should be probably better to try this with Bukisa (3,50$ per 1000 view) maybe the Bukisa counter is different...And I personnaly never tried Bukisa. But will someday.

If you want to know the %
Ac counter say : 420
Definestat : Amount Served: 1257


I still think that Mike is not scamming us.
Thank you dude.

 

[nimbus49]

Uhm, so the OP says that people are stupid for "not reading his opening post" , which only states, that, no counter except his magical counter can count the traffic, which is how he charges you.

Then someone else steps up and says, hey, my server isnt getting touched by these magical hits that don't show up on any other counters.

I for one would like to hear a reasonable explanation, why the OP can't deliver traffic that shows up in regular counters. [by his own admission]. Perhaps there's some kind of technical reason? I would try this service, but not with this kind of "because I say so" logic going around. There's always lots of cases of guys with some itraders and some posts that don't turn out as well as advertised sometime in the future. Circumstances change.

I think the onus should be on the OP to explain why his traffic can't be properly counted by any stats programs except his own. otherwise any reasonable person can only come to the conclusion, that , the rate of attrition on this traffic is horrendous, and either takes too long to deliver so people close, or gets chained, or something similar.

Love to hear any facts here though.

I never said anyone was stupid! Holy shit, man! This has been a day of friggin' insanity.....I've been accused of being someone else, being banned, delivering crappy traffic, and now I have a paranoid conspiracy imbeded in my head!

OK.....I hope this helps. All 3rd party stat counters require that you install a code on the page that you want tracked, right?

Most users that use 3rd party tracking use the free services, which only give a limit on daily tracking.

But that's only one part, the other part is most of these tracking services have outages, every day, even google.

So when there's an outage the link installed into the site page is no longer tracking, therefore stats are not right.

Another problem is page loading. If someone has a page that takes forever to load what do you do, you close it.

When you close a page before it completely loads the stat counter won't pick it up has a hit, because the link never loaded, which means another hits missed.

People aren't going to wait for some one's page to load, I don't, and you know there's a few in the system that take forever to load their crap.

The best way to review stats is raw stats provided by the hosting company you?re using. Those stats pick up on every hit, ip address and counties.

 

[doshosting]

Did anyone even look at what (gripex) said about his stats? If not look below, and look closely.

Dude (gripex), your full of crap with these numbers. Your saying that you got more hits tracked by google and statcounter than your awstats, how? That can't be true, because in order to get a hit tracked by awstats the page would need to load, as well as google and statcounter. So why would your link installed on your page load more times than awstats, which is your raw stats, no link? You would have been better off if you would have said that awstats was showing more, then statcounter, then google. Everyone knows that google would show less than others, but you got google showing more. Do you understand what I'm saying, you lied? You have less on awstats, raw logs, come on. Your saying that a link loaded more than your site page did. Next time do your research on how stat tracking works before you start making claims. I have no idea why your being so dishonest, maybe your up to something, I don't know.

What I do know is that BHW is heads above DP, and BHW members don't like seeing fighting on threads, as well as people making false claims. I think once the admin gets word of your posts the chances are your done on BHW. Mostly because of your name calling, which isn't needed. If you have a problem you should really PM the person. Because what your doing now is against BHW terms. Good Luck!

So here are the traffic numbers from the different counters.

You can be the judge.

Definatestats CPANEL: 2021

Statcounter.com: 497

AWSTATS (from logs): 122

G analytics: 175