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ahiddenman said:

Adam , My advice switch over to JS. Its the same thing but with better support and cheaper price options.

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ROFL... better support? which support... there is no response to emails and the forum is down. And what they say is only bla bla... forum comes on... blabla... js update... blabla... new server...blabla... nothing ever happens.

It is cheaper!? ok... blabla... if js works only 10.000 views for 25$... cheaper... blabla... other services provide 10k views cheaper!

JS is the new bla-bla company

never bought it, trying to but I can't get a darn customer support email back from them.

Adam Rock said:

So your playinator isnt working either?



can you actually do the calculations on how its cheaper?

i upload 3 videos a day [90/month] which costs 49.99$/month.

on JS2 i would need to buy:
90 x 3 = 270

so i would need this plan:

300 credits for 100$

So i would be paying 50$ more for the samething.

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Realistically, the only people these now expensive view options benefit from are full YouTube partners who get a payout based on the number of impressions and views your video gets. Regular users only pay to increase a counter and realistically, I have never seen a single video hosted on one of these services ever make it to the front page.

And now, with the new prices and what impressions you get, it's not even much worth it for a full partner to go for these options.

I still use Playinator and will do so until the slots run dry (and that may come faster now that JS boots videos off the server in less than a week). After that, my videos will be promoted through Viewet. Once they iron out the kinks and get on the dedicated server, this thing is going to blow both Playinator and JS totally out of the water. Even now, it kicks serious ass. And with almost 1,000 users, we have more than enough IPs to go around. And not one of my test videos have ever gotten stuck.

Something to think about.

Jim, is your playinator working? (generating views)

@ adam rock. I am still affiliated with JS. I have a 7 url package checkout link for $49/month if your interested. Its the downloadable software version also.

Dan

ahiddenman,
I'm very interested!

ahiddenman said:

@ adam rock. I am still affiliated with JS. I have a 7 url package checkout link for $49/month if your interested. Its the downloadable software version also.

Dan

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7 url's in total or daily?

Adam Rock said:

7 url's in total or daily?

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Daily.

I only have one more of these left.

ahiddenman said:

Daily.

I only have one more of these left.

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Still interested if Adam doesn't want it.

Think im gonna pass on that.

7 urls a day for me would be a waste, might as well go to someone who actually uploads that much a day.

Adam Rock said:

Jim, is your playinator working? (generating views)

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For the 2 days it's hosted before getting booted from the server? Yeah, it does. Just very dismal view counts. Viewet, even though it is still somewhat broken and being fixed, gives me better view counts than that. Can't wait for them to fix the server.

JS2 is being swapped over to an entirely new server & will be separate from the online version shortly. In the time being, I've asked you subscribers to contact me (info at jumpstartviews.com) so I can change you over to the online version (as it works instantly) while the new server is being put together.

Pricing will stay the same (its not expensive, and if you think it is, you should consider a new hobby). I cannot explain why, its just how it is.

As you can see, even izSpk is having issues with server costs for VIEWET. A free viewing service is nearly impossible to provide. JumpStart costs are more because it doesn't use your computer as a "viewer" but instead rely's on traffic that has to be obtained from other sources.

jspete said:

As you can see, even izSpk is having issues with server costs for VIEWET. A free viewing service is nearly impossible to provide. JumpStart costs are more because it doesn't use your computer as a "viewer" but instead rely's on traffic that has to be obtained from other sources.

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I do agree that eventually izSpK will need to provide need to provide pay options. However there is something that I must add.

The big difference between Playinator (which is what I use and is a sub contactor to JS) and Viewet is WE can kick our own videos off the servers as we see fit, and not kicked off in a week and not giving users any notice about it. We have total control as to how many views to feed it and when we feed them. We do not have to devote a bunch of credits to a single video, but we can withdraw credits and get them back once our promotion is finished to use on another video. And the best part is, when we want to promote a new video, we don't have to send an email that never gets answered to change it.

I personally like having this type of control over my promoted videos, and not have to rely on someone else to decide when the promotion ends.

Now, please don't get me wrong jspete. JS/Playinator is a good product and I still use it, but its been real shit lately. But what really goes up my ass sideways is the constant bickering between you and izSpK and quite frankly, we're tired of it. I personally don't give a shit which service delivers views, free, paid, having to blow your way to the top, or otherwise.

Rodney King once said "Can't we all just get along". Sage advice.

jspete I pm'd you for conversion/questions. Thanks

jspete said:

Pricing will stay the same (its not expensive, and if you think it is, you should consider a new hobby). I cannot explain why, its just how it is.

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what it means is the same price?

u mean the subscriber price with the same volume of upload per day by the same price or u mean the normal credit-price?

10k views for 25$ is robbery... if u mean a swap from the offline to the online for the normal credit-price its for me no option... to expensive. If this so i will cancel my sub and call back my money from this month and the last. now views - no money.

I'm really angry about your behavior and the few information. no respond to any emails, not a forum for weeks and only just lies.

at time the uploaded urls all doesnt work...

jspete said:

JS2 is being swapped over to an entirely new server & will be separate from the online version shortly. In the time being, I've asked you subscribers to contact me (info at jumpstartviews.com) so I can change you over to the online version (as it works instantly) while the new server is being put together.

Pricing will stay the same (its not expensive, and if you think it is, you should consider a new hobby). I cannot explain why, its just how it is.

As you can see, even izSpk is having issues with server costs for VIEWET. A free viewing service is nearly impossible to provide. JumpStart costs are more because it doesn't use your computer as a "viewer" but instead rely's on traffic that has to be obtained from other sources.

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how long till its done being swapped over?

Tinglyfox said:

what it means is the same price?

u mean the subscriber price with the same volume of upload per day by the same price or u mean the normal credit-price?

10k views for 25$ is robbery... if u mean a swap from the offline to the online for the normal credit-price its for me no option... to expensive. If this so i will cancel my sub and call back my money from this month and the last. now views - no money.

I'm really angry about your behavior and the few information. no respond to any emails, not a forum for weeks and only just lies.

at time the uploaded urls all doesnt work...

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I told you Peter believes you guys are retards. Who's going to cancel the monthly plan to switch to the expensive online plan? Nobody will. Just charge back your credit card if you believe you didn't get the service you paid for.

peter
if you want people to change to jumpstart online you need to give details
1. what is the price since its not written anymore at your site
2. what about people who bought oter plug-in will this system work for ezinearticles myspace etc
3. how much people will pay for getting traffic to this plugs-not youtube
4.do you understand that people thatwork wih you dont like the idea that now you offer ohter person system ? i am sure you read what people wrote about him
5. what about v 2.3 you wrote about at your twitter?

waiting for your reply

don don said:

peter
if you want people to change to jumpstart online you need to give details
1. what is the price since its not written anymore at your site
2. what about people who bought oter plug-in will this system work for ezinearticles myspace etc
3. how much people will pay for getting traffic to this plugs-not youtube
4.do you understand that people thatwork wih you dont like the idea that now you offer ohter person system ? i am sure you read what people wrote about him
5. what about v 2.3 you wrote about at your twitter?

waiting for your reply

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Jumpstart online is here: http://www.jumpstartviews.com/jso.htm
When you register/log in, you're given the option to purchase credits:
Credits
Cost
Price


50 credits
$0.50 per credit
$25

100 credits
$0.45 per credit
$45

300 credits
$0.35 per credit
$100

1,000 credits
$0.25 per credit
$250



1 credit gets 200+ views a day for 1 video.
5 credits 1000+ views a day for 1 video.

This is an extreme price increase ... It is greed...

Old subscriber-pack:

4 video per day by an online time of 30 days (45 day were advertised ) and 200+ views for 49,95$:

old suscriber example:

30 days * 4 videos = 120 videos per month
120 videos * 30 day to increase * 200 views = 720.000 views / per month ( this was advertised )
720.000 views / 200 = 3.600 credits per month...

And now the new costs for the same...

3 * 1.000 views for each 250$ = 750$
2 * 300 views for each 100$ = 200$

TOTAL: 950$ per month for the same... this is a difference of 900$ per month...

It was hard with the subscription, the cost to absorb. With JS-Online by 950$ costs per month which is impossible!!!

And jspete says...

its not expensive, and if you think it is, you should consider a new hobby

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Thats right, with your prices it is only a hobby and brings no income. A very expensive hobby. Because it costs money. JS cant earn this by adsense.

At last...

a dedicated server without service with 3GHz, 4GB, 1TB HDD in Raid and 155MBit/s internet-conection with flat costs here in europe ~ 70$ per month incl. tax
with service ~ 150$ per month...

Your jspete says in all posts you dont generate the views... if it so is you can support with 1 server min. 5.000 and max. 10.000 videolinks and this per server by the upper example of old subscribers ~ 50 to 90 customer... and by the old prices 2.500$ to 5.000$ per month...

This the margins are between $ 2,300 and $ 4,800 per server by the old subscriber-prices! With only 50 - 90 customers. And you always say you have hundreds of customers.



now, whats wrong?

But generate u the views? Or if the server so much more expensive than ours? Or are you now become greedy and still want to get rich quickly?

Viewet has 1,000 users and requires only now a dedicated server.

Something is wrong with your statements. It is better you work together with your customers than against them.

Congratulations jspete - you will broken with your greed your Company successfully.