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Penguin or Something Else as well

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jezsez, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. jezsez

    jezsez Newbie

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    My site is affected by Penguin, I also suspect that something else is affecting it as well. When I paste a snippet of my unique text without quotes, my site does not appear for that phrase. If I paste it and add quotes it appears. Is this a normal trait of Penguin or am I being pulled down with something else as well? I have done a reconsideration request and I got the canned "No Manual Penalty" message back.

    I have had some issues with duplicate content where people have copied my site but hopefully have changed all my content so that it's unique again

    Any ideas please?
     
  2. kominik

    kominik Registered Member

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    Exactly this happened me too. Change content didnt help me. If its penguin slap, its more about backlinks. Check your site with Ahrefs. If you have more than 30 per cent of the same keyword (anchor text), its probably penguin penalty. Then try build new links with different anchors.
     
  3. jezsez

    jezsez Newbie

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    Did that get you out of it kominik? If so how long did it take?
     
  4. geezer466

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    How far has your site dropped from its highest positions? Have you lost all ranking or are you still ranking for some terms maybe some long tails?

    I see too many people jumping to a conclusion that they have been slapped by penguin when they have not. G has updated it's over optimisation algo in the last few Months and continues to refine it. Many sites are dropping back to page 2,3 or 4 simply because they are over optimized.

    Have a good look at your page(s) try and thin out the density of your money kw(s).
    As has been suggested above check out your backlinking pattern. If you have a predominant anchor and your on page is over optimised for that anchor you will get a slap.
    Look at your title tags make them more readable to the end user rather than a hot potch of the KW you want to rank for, yes include your kw but don't tear the arse out of it.
    Make your meta descriptions interesting and informative for the reader whilst adding your kw only once.

    When you do all this (it might help it might not) it could take quite a while before you see any benefit. If g sees you altering your title tags it will knock you down for a bit before it decides on your new rank to keep you guessing. Some peeps over at a very well respected WH SEO forum say this could be as long as three Months for really competitive kw.

    The new thinking is build sites for users not search engines, for me that means not so much trying to cram all your KW onto the home page but to split sites up into logical pages with each page focusing on one of your KW.
    Links should then be built to all the pages, (with a diverse anchor pattern) to many of us over the years have built links to the home page only and are now suffering from it.

    Some of my sites have been slapped and dropped a few pages for my best terms, I am still ranking on less competitive terms and some long tails so not all doom and gloom. My strategy right now is to do nothing but watch, read and learn when I think I have learnt enough about the new metrics I will rebuild.
     
  5. kominik

    kominik Registered Member

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    When Penguin start running , penalty was given about ten percent of my sites. It happens 2-time after about mont (Many seoers say that penguin affect 60 percet of websites). Repair is slow because it is necessary to add new links. For mor information search this forum or youtube "penguin recovery"
    is necessary add some links deep in website too. It helps a lot, backlinks still working.