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Penguin...Don't Panic

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zengetsu, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    So I have been reading and reading here on BHW about people still getting all worked up about Penguin update that Google did. One thing I would want to make clear...SEO is still a working method and it will always be a working method. What you have to change is the way you linkbuild and common SEO practices. That is another thing I keep seeing all of these BST services about how they figured out how to avoid panda and penguin. Ya anyone can, it honestly is not that difficult and I will talk about a few ways that I have tested and read about that work well.

    #1 Make Link Building Appear More Natural
    Ya I know this is probably a difficult thing to do but it is honestly really easy. This was the main thing Penguin was about, finding really spammy websites. If you use to blast your website with thousands of low quality backlinks with scrapebox or whatever. This could be a reason why your seeing your results drop in the big G. Although things can easily be fixed never forget that, don't give up on the 5-30 websites you own keep trying and make sure you watch what services you buy and use.

    #2 Diversify Link Building
    Any black hatter should already be doing this...hell even with scrapebox there is more than just blog commenting you can do to diversify your link building strategies. I know alot of people have been using link pyramids. I have been seeing a success with those and I'm sure most of you have as well.

    #3 Changing The Way You Link Build
    As I said earlier Google wants to see that some of your backlinks appear as natural. Of course as a black hatter we don't have the time to build backlinks "naturally" but there are ways for you to appear natural. These are the more vital things in this post.

    -Use a diverse amount of anchor text! I normally use 4 to 5 anchor keywords and I will sometimes even use the keyword scraper in scrapebox and use those for anchor text. For example if my website was about graphic design I could use "graphic design tutorials" or "professional graphic design" using long tail keywords would also be a great idea.

    -DO NOT use your website's homepage all the time! You can use your website's internal links (mydomain.com/graphic-design) and see better results with backlinks! That is because you are starting to appeal to Google as "natural" I am not saying don't use your website's homepage, just make sure you use other links as well.

    #4 Unique Onsite Content!
    If your website is filled with duplicate content or spun content then you are automatically going to appear spammy to Google, plus that is bad SEO practice in the first place. So pay someone to write content or write it yourself (I know that there are cheap content writing services here on BHW).

    #5 Social Networking Links
    If you are really focusing on your website it helps for Google to see that you have social networking sites linking back to it. So take a few minutes and make a Facebook, Google+, Twitter, and maybe a Pinterest account for your website.


    Keep It Up!
    Those are some main things you can focus on to help recover from Penguin! I hope you have found some of these ideas helpful!

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  2. harrymctavish

    harrymctavish Junior Member

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    Great post! One more thing I would add into this though is that you should also look to a more quality content links as opposed to the general spammy spun content. Google is giving more power to unspun content.

    Harry
     
  3. poweronics

    poweronics Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I would lay more stress on no 4. Content really matters a lot now.
     
  4. beakon

    beakon Regular Member

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    How many examples would you like of the opposite?
     
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  5. Effin

    Effin Registered Member

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    Most of the sites I had that were dinged when penguin hit have since recovered when I did some crazy anchor text blasts. I heavily diversified the URL and ran a few hundred varied "click here" type anchors and I saw incremental improvements over about a month.
     
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    this is a great post. I think the anchor text and internal links are going to make the biggest difference. Also a well structured silo site helps.
     
  7. harrymctavish

    harrymctavish Junior Member

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    The anchor text diversification mattered when the over optimisation refresh hit. the content mattered when the web spam update hit. We have been seeing better improvements in ranking when using high quality content links as opposed to spammier spun content.
     
  8. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    Yes, you are absolutely right but it is more difficult to do unspun content and spam with scrapebox. Although manual posting is another option it is also more time consuming. I am thinking about offering high PR backlinks with diverse keywords and I believe I can see results with that. One major concern Google has been having about spun content is that you end up sounding like a babbling idiot. I agree ORIGINAL content is always better. So my advice to those of you spinning that you check your spintax and see what is being inputted.
     
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    serpcrusher Newbie

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    Great post. Our company has used a variety of what I would call natural progression link building techniques over the last year or so and our clients have done very well during these arctic animal named updates. Here is a sample of one:

    4leggedfatboy.jpg
     
  10. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    So your natural method is 100% manual? I really like it, it is mainly social networking with some web2.0 so my main question is how long does it take for you to see results? I see results from scrapebox anywhere from 20-30 days.

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  11. harrymctavish

    harrymctavish Junior Member

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    With the penguin update the only time we use scrapebox is for the indexing of links. To get the most SERP advancements out of the penguin update you need to look for more quality links. High PR links with articles, unspun content and you will see huge advancements. I would only use scrapebox sporadically, and would not even hand spin an article anymore there is no need to.

    Harry
     
  12. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    I understand Penguin is about high PR links but you do realize you can still get that out of Scrapebox runs right? On the other hand I think your talking about more writing unique and original content for web2.0 properties. I still believe Scrapebox can still be very useful if you use it the right way.

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    To recover in Google Penguin avoid duplicate content, cloaking, keyword stuffing and black hat techniques in building your links, just make your fresh and unique content of your website and use only the white hat techniques to build your links, it will help you to increase your site traffics and backlinks.
     
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    The best way to avoid from getting hit by Google is hiring terrorists from "The Base" and bombing all Google high-ups during their AGM at their headquarter. Your sites are safe from then on.
     
  15. cloakndagger

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    Not entirely true,I know of 4 sites with exactly the same content,all real PR4.It can be an issue in certain niches,not all.As for not using blackhat to use links,are you having a laugh,I use alot of tools direct and see alot of sweet results,knowing how to use them is the key.Of course you need quality,try competing in the unsecured loans\payday loans niche with whitehat,you wouldn't stand a chance.Create a video on youtube can bring traffic you just need to diversify your approach by thinking outside the box.
    I find it amusing someone telling people to use only whitehat that sells 1k of visitors for $1.
     
  16. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    I have to disagree, I can't say black hat SEO is dead, I can say that white hat may be more effective currently but black hat is honestly just about bad SEO practice and as long as you get someone to do it right you should be fine. That's just what I think though, I think we are past the days that you can just spam the hell out of crappy PR blogs. As I said though link building diversity I'm going to use both black hat and white hat.
     
  17. edgematch

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    OP, no offense but all your suggestions have nothing related with penguin.
     
  18. zengetsu

    zengetsu Regular Member

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    These are all things I have read online alot of them from this very forum about Penguin....Penguin was mainly about cleaning up link building...which is mostly what my post was about...thanks though.
     
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    thanks for this article :D
     
  20. edgematch

    edgematch Elite Member

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    I mean they are all time favorite generic rules forced on us by google. And they exist almost since 1989BC.