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PBNs vs. Spam

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by yayman, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. yayman

    yayman Registered Member

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    Hey all,

    There's a local term that I want to rank a relatively new website for, but after doing some research, I realize most of the competitors on the first page utilize PBN links. Is it possible to beat these sites by building links through a link builder like Magic Submitter (what i use) or GSA? I know PBN links are very strong, but I was told by another local SEO "expert" that link building with a software like MS will beat PBNs, just gotta give it time and consistency...

    What do you all think?

    Thanks
     
  2. LeanLow

    LeanLow Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    "Seo expert" if a person calls himself that, then it's clearly that he's not an expert.
    It depends on the pbn links, but it's very unlikely that you will beat using gsa or ms.
     
  3. superstar55

    superstar55 Junior Member

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    I hate when someone calls himself SEO Expert. How much is his earnings ?
     
  4. ludicrousspeed

    ludicrousspeed Newbie

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    I would disregard anything else that person tells you.
     
  5. ezlivin

    ezlivin Junior Member

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    I would focus on setting up your own pbn network. They can be a bit confusing to set up if you have never created one but there are a few guys on blackhat world that offer this service.
     
  6. Pejlis

    Pejlis Regular Member

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    pbn should be your priority :]
     
  7. SEO Power

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    You can beat your competitors if you know what you are doing. And yes, a link building software can beat a PBN, and it's easy.
     
  8. tony andrew

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    As you know well, pbn links are strong. So i would also suggest you to give priority to it.
     
  9. bignose

    bignose Power Member

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    GSA and so are for tier2, don't you know it? Point it to your money site - and you lose all rankings and get a penalty.

    To your money site you point PBN, good guest posts etc.
    To this tier1 you point web2.0's.
    And only to this tier2 you send GSA.
     
  10. lord1027

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    You will not PBNs with Spam, what SEO expert was that?
     
  11. nikita12

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    The whole shift away from spam links towards PBNs is because the search engines have become really good at finding spammy links and penalizing the websites. While in the short term you may outrank the competitors, in the long run you are most certainly going to be penalized and de-indexed.

    Spam Link = Cheap, fast linking for churn and burn sites
    PBN = Costly, slower linking for long term ranking