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PBN, please review my strategy

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by rana1863, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. rana1863

    rana1863 Newbie

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    Hi Everyone,

    I've been on this forum for a while now and have read many threads/posts on PBNs. This is going to be my first post and I would like the experienced PBN owners to review my strategy and answers a few questions:

    - Is it enough to just get private whois for PBN domains if I'm going to register them at the same registrar? Do you think it's a footprint that all domains are registered at the same provider? This is actually what I am going to do, if it's safe...

    - I'm going to keep each blog on completely separate hosting account. Free or very cheap in start, to ensure the IP diversity.

    - I'm going to start with 5 posts on each of them and then regular weekly or by weekly content. Everything 100% unique, readable and of acceptable quality. The content might not be very great or full of information like on my money site but they will be 100% unique, readable and of acceptable quality.

    - Do I really need to hide my PBN from competitors if all the blogs have readable and relevant content? If it's a must to hide, what is the best way to do it?

    Thanks in advance for everyone's help!
     
  2. welly_59

    welly_59 Power Member

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    Just use different registrars and use fake names, save the money you would have spent on privacy on more domains.

    Instead of spending time and money on content, why not reuse the content from archive.org and post that? I'm presuming the pbn domains are expired domains.

    Instead of using separate hosting you can use a hostnine reseller account. It provides 15 different accounts for $15 and each can have its own c-class up address
     
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  3. nakamura

    nakamura Senior Member

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    I can only find the reseller hosting plan: 10 Accounts for $25. Where did you get that offer?
     
  4. rana1863

    rana1863 Newbie

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    Thanks for your reply!

    - Is it safe enough if I am going to get private whois and get domains at the same registrar? If we just ignore the cost for the moment...

    - For content, yes I am going to take the same route as you've mentioned with expired domains. BTW, does it really matter if domain names are niche relevant, or anything with good link profile goes?

    - I too can only see USD 25 reseller starter plan with 10 cPanel account at Hostwinds. How are you getting the better price?
     
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  5. welly_59

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    Hostnine I meant sorry. If your interested in buying through an affiliate link let me know and I'll send you $5 for your troubles.
     
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    Niche doesn't matter as it's really simple to fit a link into any subject without being spammy
     
  7. jo080711

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    I agree with welly_59, you should just use the different registrars and fake names. It isn't even really the cost (I think that was just a side bonus above as well), but I wouldn't do anything the same way for all of the domains. Yeah, some with privacy is fine. But diversification is the key to every single step in the PBN building process.
     
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    If you use different names and addresses then there is no real problem, depending on how big your PBN is, but why take the risk, you need to create an account for every domain anyway, so why not prevent a possible footprint and get some more registers?



    That is the best way you can do it

    Just make your sites look legit, don't let them scream PBN, what i mean is ad some videos, ad a facebook fanpage with some likes (you can but likes for $1- in the BST) ad a twitter account with some cheap followers, linkup your posts with your social media accounts, create a youtube account and ad some video, make your sites look legit as possible, i know it is a pain in the ass to set it all up, but with the next update you'll be the one that will have nothing to fear.

    I go out of my way to make my PBN's look real, well they are real sites, the content is good, it has social accounts on it even monetizing and list building on them, if i get reviewed i know i'll pass for sure.


    YES,YES,YES.... It doesnt matter if your PBN has reasonable content or not, if i was your evil competitor i would seek out your whole PBN, report it to Google and at the same time blast a view million porn links to your (small) network and money site to take it all out. You really, really, really, have to protect yourself, if you don't..... Well it's like banging a $10 crackwhore without protection, there is change you'll be fine, and there is a change that you have full blown AIDS within 6 months.

    The condom here is just adding some code to your HTACCESS file, be save protect yourself :)


    You're very welcome
     
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  9. buflosldr

    buflosldr Newbie

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    Could someone tell me what a pbn is?
     
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    Private Blog Network.
     
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  12. rana1863

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    Thanks for your helpful replies!

    In case of fake name and addresses, how do you pay for domains? Paypal? I think Credit Card cannot be an option in this case. Does PayPal payment work fine with fake names?

    About Reporting to Google, if someone is ranking for a rather competitive keyword and one can spot it out that it's with PBN links but can't locate the PBN. If one just report the Money site, will Google investigate the backlinks by itself? What happens in such a case?
     
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    You can buy each domain with the same CC with most hosts. If they ever question you, it is for your client, ect. On a rare occasion you may get a refund and then you just no longer work with that host. But I have never had an issue.

    Also, a little trick is to check whois data and use the same name to register the dropped domain. Make up fake details.

    If your competition can't find your links, google can. If google thinks they found a link farm, they may hit you. But if they look like real sites without any footprint, how can they tell? It is better to be extra cautious and laugh all the way to the bank.
     
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    domain from aged, clean spam history and strong backlink is point, good luck
     
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    With namecheap, namesilo and other registers you can pay with paypal.


    Not always and if you have your PBN setup to look like real sites, on different domains and different WHOIS info you will be fine, if your PBN screams PBN then you will get dealt with by Google :D
     
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    PBN is for Private Blog Network.
     
  17. splishsplash

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    Google doesn't have access to billing data. Why would a registrar give over credit card info to google, lol.

    People think google is some sort of god that has access to everything. Not even the government has access to your billing data without a subpoena. Why on earth would one company just hand over its customer billing data to another company?

    Use 1 card for all your domains. Al 10,000 of them.
     
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    Where would one report a PBN? I have loads of competitors that I just can't outrank and I have found multiple PBN's that are of very very bad quality. Time to do some reporting! :p
     
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    your posts should be very unique and related to content.
     
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    So because you can't create a business yourself you're going to go out and destroy people's livelihoods?

    People come on bhw and help each other. You're wanting to destroy people? Nice guy. Some of those competitors are likely people on here.

    There's nothing worse than a snitch.

    And you realize that all the reporting in the world isn't going to get you ranked. You'll just sour the milk for everyone.

    Instead of that why don't you either build your own PBN or go and find a low competition niche.

    Failing that, there's always McDonalds once you're finished reporting those of us actually who are actually trying to build a business.
     
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