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PBN Metrics

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ColonelSoldier, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. ColonelSoldier

    ColonelSoldier Junior Member

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    Hey guys I've decided to start creating my own PBN
    So today I sniped an expired domain but I'm not 100% sure if I've done it right:

    So the domain is PR 2
    Citation Flow 24
    Trust Flow 32
    External Backlinks 64
    Referring IPs 7

    It was an old sports forum in Australia.
    I took it at an expired auction.
    However domain authority is merely 14.08
    And the page authority 25.17

    I've been reading a lot today - but the trust flow and cittaion flow is so high I'm not sure if it really matters about the DA/PA?

    I have thrown up a wordpress to get it re-indexed for the time being.

    Anyway any feedback welcome, is this the sort of domain which would do well for a PBN?

    Much appreciated!
     
  2. jamesjk1

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    Wow, that's a pretty high TF you've got there. TF is harder to manipulate than other metrics so I would be fairly confident in saying it's a good domain. Citation flow is also lower than TF which is good. What's the actual backlink profile like though? Any spammy keywords? Would also be worthwhile sticking it into archive.org to see if its been abused in the past. If everything checks out, I say go for it :)
     
  3. Aty

    Aty Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Don't pay too much attention to metrics, they aren't really realistic. Instead take a closer look at the backlink profile.
     
  4. ColonelSoldier

    ColonelSoldier Junior Member

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    Thanks for the rapid response man,
    I have checked wayback and even used some of the content to make a few pages for re-indexing.
    Previously until about a month ago it was used as a forum with over 1,000,000 posts but I'm not sure with such a low backlink profile, a few yahoo answers, some other very old links but I can't really seem to find out where the massive Trust Flow came from. It wasn't bought from another seller, I sniped it at auction so I really do trust in it.

    Checked the backlink profile, some strange old high authority as well as a news site "xxxxx forum talks about sexual assault in sport" so some PR release from a long time ago.

    I will go about reindexing it and see what damage it can do to my money sites.

    Thanks for replying :)
     
  5. ColonelSoldier

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    Thanks for the response man, well yeah I went mostly on metrics from Moz, however the backlinks ARE there and look pretty permanent, some yahoo answers from 6 years ago and some old news sites as I said before.
    In terms of checking the backlink profile, do you mean check it as to verify if the metrics will go away over time or to check it to see if the backlinks are real?
     
  6. Aty

    Aty Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Forget about metrics. Check the backlink profile to make sure there are no spammy backlinks, to make sure the top used keywords are brand/rawurl/generic and not money keywords, because if money keywords are in the top then perhaps the domain was penalized for over optimization, and to make sure the backlinks are strong enough to provide long term results.
     
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    This seems like a good domain to me, PA/DA is quite easy to bring up.
     
  8. tony_d

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    7 referring IP's should have rung alarm bells...
     
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    Definitely, it's too easy to have inflated metrics when there are only a few domains pointing at a site, especially if those domains have site-wide links.
     
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    Yeah, nowadays metrics can only take you to certain extent. Still need to check the backlink profiles to be certain.
     
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    As many have pointed out - 7 RD is a bit low. Sure, if those are all homepage strong links I'd say it's okay, but I doubt thats the case.

    I usually look for at least 20 RD and 2-3 very high authority links (contextual).
     
  13. ColonelSoldier

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, some of the backlinks are homepage to homepage links, i.e direct link to my homepage from their homepage page with decent metrics also, and I have taken the necessary steps to ensure my domain will be reindexed without the www for which the juice is situated.
    A page has been reindexed but not the homepage yet, but also there are many old forum posts indexed - is it wise to go through and make a separate page for each of the inbound links (create a page for the 60-70 forums posts that are pointed to from the backlinks) to keep the backlink juice?
    Otherwise many of the backlinks are reaching a 404 and I understand this is not ideal.
    Sorry if this has been asked before I have searched for the answers previously.
     
  14. aussiejack

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    search for url + brand. sometimes you find strong backlinks which dont show up in mj / ahrefs. With this method I often find backlinks from popular pages where I am surprised that the backlink tools dont find them.

    Also backlinks of expired domains are often marked as lost / deleted when in fact they are still active. If you dont find any more backlinks this way you might decide not to use this domain because of low referring ip
     
  15. aussiejack

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    Install link juice keeper or 404-to-start plugin. This way all 404 are redirected to the hp and you keep the link juice.
     
  16. ColonelSoldier

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    Thanks mate, this plugin has worked a charm, all forum posts point to home page.
    Homepage is re-indexed and will see how we go from here
     
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    404 to start plugin also does the same think as link juice keeper. You don't want all your sites to use the same plugin. Need to keep it random a bit.
     
  18. aussiejack

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    you can also solve it via htaccess (probably the plugins do the same). Also I have never seen a hint in the source code that link juice keeper is used. Thus not sure if google sees it if you use it on all PBNs. But diversifying everything is always a good idea
     
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  19. Schwarzie

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    Great posts. Thanks guys.
     
  20. Sristy

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    Domain seem to be good except that backlink profile need to be closely watched.

    Regarding 404 redirect, to avoid footprint you can use the php redirect method. The code is somewhere in one of the threads here.