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PBN link juice vs its quality

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by patlang, Oct 12, 2016.

  1. patlang

    patlang Regular Member

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    Hopefully I put it in the right way. If a PBN created in a shitty way gets indexed does it pass as much link juice as if it would pass if it was created in a very good way (quality appearance and content)?

    Does the quality of the PBN help the link juice in any way or it just helps with indexation and to pass manual reviews?
     
  2. bartosimpsonio

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    That's an excellent question.

    My guess is that a nice looking PBN site might attract more links in, thus your link would weigh more because the PBN site has more PR(the real PR).

    But I don't know whether "page quality" score of the source link passes onto the target. That's a interesting question.
     
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  3. patlang

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    The thing is I am in a not competitive niche, and got several PBNs with good link profile and metrics. What I found out is that they easily get indexed with 5x300 words articles. In such case I am wondering if there is any point working on better quality in terms of link juice passed by them.

    +no potential chance the PBNs get any organic traffic
     
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    If your niche is not competitive you probably can rank with very few links any way. Maybe just good on-page SEO would do. So do weigh your options before you invest tons into the PBN sites.
     
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    Appearance and quality will not in any way help with link juice.
    Manual review is an entirely different thing. There are 99% chances any PBN (Public blog network) will not survive a manual review.
    With a real private blog network too you will have to make all the sites real (Appearance, content, hosting ). Have more content not linking to your money sites and based strictly around a niche.
     
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  6. patlang

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    I only got 1 competitor who is ranking with PBNs so I definitely need some of them. But well I can always use them for other purposes. Anyways just wanted to get your opinions on this subject.
     
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    IMO high quality original content helps to rank better than spun gibberish content. Just my opinion!
     
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    Yes, I think so because link juice passing to the site is effective when it is from a content that is relevant to your site and have quality content.
     
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    Quality such as site speed and proper headers and sub headers may not influence link juice overall, but I believe there could be some benefits.

    Much like how if there are visitors on the PBN clicking the link back to the money site would help, I'm sure other factors contribute in tiny ways.

    Building PBNs the right way has one benefit above all- value. If you ever want to sell the site off to someone who likes the name of domain, or is looking for a done-for-you solution, it sure beats convincing that person to buy a poorly done PBN that has crappy pages they need to delete and start over.
     
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    The new Penguin may demote links from pages it found spammy.
    It works on crawl and it triggers on spam based factors.
    What is considered spammy is decided by RankBrain, G's artificial intelligence powering Penguin, based on certain signals, including those that webmasters sent them via disavow files for years.

    So basically in some way, the internet community teaches this AI what is to be considered spammy. Brilliant, isn't it?

    Eventually, this AI is able to find patterns on pages based on these reports, and demotes links coming from such pages.

    In my understanding, from this point of view, your PBN should look like exactly the opposite to those pages that are usually reported in disavow files, which are usually low quality spun content spammy pages. Otherwise you risk your links to lose their power by the new Penguin.
     
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    You can create a PBN quickly but there are some rules that you should respect :
    - Get quality content that can stand itself as informative for the reader.
    - Make sure you have the right title, meta desc, Hn tags.
    - If you're using wordpress, try to not index the category pages, taxonomies, tags pages etc etc.

    beside that, if you want to pass a manual review, you'll have to create social media accounts, post content regularly, etc, just as an authority site.
     
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    The appearance of a pbn does not matter.
     
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    PBN is really great if you want to rank your keyword and once it gets indexed then you will get a good result.
     
  15. patlang

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    Hello guys,
    thank you for your replies.

    I don't really aim at getting any visitors via my PBNs since most of them are ranking for long tails at position 20+ and still it works at my niche.

    I was more thinking about creating unique 300 words article instead of a 700-1000 words article. Since both of them get indexed why waste time (assuming the quality in terms of word count does not influence the link juice)

    How important is to set the met desc for your PBN? Isn't it enough to create a blog that is relevant to your MS, place the KW a couple of times (in the title as well), some pictures and OB link?

    Why not to index the categories? I try to add like 3 categories to each blog with a view to differentiating
     
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    The quality of PBN is always helps... My PBN site is ranking on first and Second page itself...If google is considering your backlink from PBN as Backlink from Authority sites it sure is better...
     
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    Unless your category pages have unique content, it's useless and even dangerous to index it. Could lead to duplicate content, weakening the power of your PBN articles.

    It is important. Keyword stuffing is irrelevant nowadays; You need ot work a quality article around the semantic of your niche.
     
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    To answer your question.. No appearance has zero effect on link juice.

    I often use single HTML pages, with very little content and a single link to my money site. This is to catch, contain and pass on as much link juice as possible. It has no where else to go either internally or externally

    As for passing a manual review? Think coming soon pages or "this company has been acquired" style.

    You could spend huge amounts of time and money making a site look perfect and still get de indexed, why waste the time and spread possible link juice internally?
     
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  19. patlang

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    That is a really good point. Thank you
    Do you use seo plugin like yoast for this purpose?
     
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    I do. All taxonomies and archives are in no index.