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PBN, Is multiple Server IPs important?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by MPJHorner, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. MPJHorner

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    I have a programming and ecommerce background, always been fascinated with SEO. Be nice to me it's my first post! I have been doing a lot of reading recently and I'm keen to get started on my own PBN this week.

    I can manage all the hosting myself, I was wondering if having multiple IP address locations for the hosting is important? IE does it matter if all the domains are hosting from the same VPS (from an SEO perspective).

    Look forward to hearing from you!
     
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    You must be having unique ip for each and every domain.
    Easy Blog Networks will provide you all assistance for this.
     
  3. MPJHorner

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    EBN aren't accepting invites, from what i can see they are utilise other services such as AWS/DO, i assume some customers share address spaces?
    Do you have other recommendations?
     
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    I only knew this what I shared..
     
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    EBN is a temporary solution...... i know people with them for 2 years and are doing well, but eventually it has to hit the fan..... also they want to make you feel like they wont host you, but they do have a "signup" link that is always there, just not interlinked from other pages of their site.

    Long story short, they got so many clients, many PBN's will share same IP.
     
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    Yes for the most part EBN is currently not accepting new clients unless you have a link to their backdoor site, unfortunately I do not, but I have seen it linked in comments before.

    Depending on the amount of domains in your network, I would just use a variety of hosting. It is more important to have a variety of IP classes than diverse hosting, but both are very important! For example, buy maybe a 5-10 A-Class IP package for your top authority domains, set them up with CloudFlare, then buy maybe 10-30 B-Class IP package for next group of domains and randomly use htaccess code, robots.txt, and Spyder Spanker on some of them (to prevent competitors crawling network), and then purchase a few C-Class IP packages for the remainder of your domains.

    The most important thing with PBN is diversity! You want to be as random and sporadic as possible. Different names/addresses/IPs, use proxies, login with firefox browser, chrome, IE edge, Tor browser, Safari, everything. Don't link internally between PBNs. If you search "PBN Footprints" you can find some good info on what you need to be looking for when setting up hosting

    Here is a good list for you:

    BlueHost
    SiteGround
    InMotion Hosting
    iPage
    HostPapa
    GreenGeeks
    JustHost
    HostGator
    DreamHost
    HawkHost
    HostWinds
    GoDaddy
    WordPress
    Tumblr
    CloudFlare
     
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    Unique IP's is very important, im not sure if different IP's but same server is a problem tho.
     
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    Different (at least) C class IPs are a must have. That's probably one of the top 3 most important things when you are building your own PBN. Regarding EBN, it does accept new clients through the link in their BHW BST thread. It's the same link that Asap posted for you in the post above mine.
     
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    Hey Nargil, I have seen you in some very quality PBN threads - good stuff. I appreciate all the info you have shared!
     
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    Hi,

    YES. Unique class IPs are must, better if we can have them from different locations and from different hosting service providers.

    Brownie points on creating PBN

    · Uniqueness is solicited (at least in the C class level IP’s)

    · Different locations from different continents can do wonders.

    · Do not restrict yourself to the Wordpress platform alone. Jimdo ,weebly ,wix.com and many more are here to help you out.

    · Stay out of footprints. Longer you stay away, better is the results.


    PM me at any time , if you need a detailed solution. I am happy to help.
     
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    I have used EBN in 2015 and at that time, it's not bad to tell the truth, though still has some flaws (I dont know if they already fixed them)

    1. you can't change WP theme after WP blog born, why? If you do this, the footer link of the original theme will be there forever lol, because the system does not support you alter WP theme code.

    2. I forgot

    I havent touch it more than 1 year and dont know whats it became today lol.
     
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    You need to make your network look legit.

    Normal link profiles don't all come from the same place. Just think about it for a second and put yourself on a search engine's shoes.
     
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    Interesting points, i assume the further and more random the better and longer lasting. I trying to come up with a happy medium that will give me good results and isn't a nightmare to manage!

    Thanks for the input, do you rate these over taking on the work and doing it yourself?

    Good point, i will certainly be keeping this in mind when i move forward.
     
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    Interesting, have alot of background in DevOps and with docker would easy to automate varying nginx versions and headers etc. You can have different IP's proxying to one backend server i assume if careful wouldn't leave footprints if done correctly? I'll check out the link thanks for the info!
     
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    If you use differtent IP's on the same server, the traceroute to the IP's are the same. That could also be a footprint, but don't know if Google looks at this.
     
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    What people have to take into consideration is that PBN get penalised on a manual basis (unless you leave absolutely strong footprint, like 15 sites on same IP, anchors all the same etc etc).
    That means having multiple hosting provider/datacenter is useless if all your site look the same.

    Think about it for a second. M-A-N-U-A-L review. The guys working at google, in the SPAM team, actually chasing PBN all day long, have very strong skills in detecting PBNs. So unless all your PBN sites linking to your MS can actually be standalone site, which quality content, social media profiles etc etc, you will not pass a manual review. Those hunters are not dumb, if they see 10 sites poiting to your URL, with just 5 to 10 contents on it, posted like this, one article with a good anchor, I mean, it's easy to spot a PBN.
    If you can figure out which site is a PBN, and which site isn't, then they can do the same.

    So Different IP + Different hosting + Different CMS will do nothing if your content on it yell "I'm a unique article written for PBN".

    That's all for my rant.
     
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    Alot don't seem to realize this - if you want a PBN that lasts and only grows stronger, these detailed steps are very important to cover your footprints. It is easy to create a million web 2.0 and crappy pbn sites that get punted out of the way by google - it takes time and dedication to creating a solid pbn foundation
     
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    Interesting point, are they really like to do manual reviews for people with 10-15 sites pointing to your site? Seems like a lot of work, i would assume that google would have more programmatic/machine learning ways to detect BS sites.

    When you say only 5 - 10s contents (please excuse me im new!) , do you mean each of the 10-15 sites only have 5-10 blog posts. would look odd? If so when you build your PBN do you write lots of unique content on all them and link them all sites or only some posts?
     
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    If your requirement is just 10-15 PBNs then just buy shared hosting packages of major hosting companies and you should be good. Also ensure the best practices in building out PBNs that has been detailed by many above.
     
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