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PBN Expired Domain Before linking Wait Time

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Vladamir, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. Vladamir

    Vladamir Power Member

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    hi everyone, I wanted to ask some expertise on a question that's been bugging me for a while. my PBN now has over 50 sites on it, and something that I have been doing is when I purchase an expired domain. I usually bring up a website on it the same day. Or maybe the day after, with contents and about four or five posted drip feed every day. From then on, however, within about two or three days. I immediately put two homepage links up.

    . My question was is this a little too obvious to Google showing too many signals that this is obviously an expired domain that was just purchased and had a blog, put on it to expressly link to another.

    . How long do you guys usually wait before putting on the first back links and do you even think it matters?

    . Also, did you guys run any indexers on your new domain or do you just let it get crawled naturally.
     
  2. MoneyValue

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    I typically wait about 4-6 months before adding in any links to my money site. In terms of indexing the pages, I simply submit a sitemap, and let the Google bots do their job. Typically within a few weeks every page on the website is indexed naturally.
     
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  3. Vladamir

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    Jeez! 4-6 months! Seems a little excessive no? I could wait maximum 1 month I think before my patience runs out and I need to throw links up there. But maybe your right and thats the safest way...hmmm
     
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    I wait a week or two. I would probably post a link earlier, but I have sites to post so with new ones I wait for their turn.
    I let hem index naturally.
     
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  5. MoneyValue

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    It might be excessive, but once your network is large enough, you don't necessarily need to use every newly created site right away.

    By waiting that long, it allows for me to monitor the website closely. If a few months go by, and the domain isn't banned by Google, and if it's rankings are reasonable for its keywords and it's backlink strength, then I know it's very clean. It also helps me prepare for any large sweeps by Google, in case they go after PBN's again. I rather have a lot of sites without a single doubtful link for whenever the next update comes about.
     
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    I would definitely would wait at least a week and I do agree with what MoneyValue says, no need to rush it with a current PBN of your size.
     
  7. Mr Vlad

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    Submit sitemaps, wait for it to get indexed naturally, and in about a month you should be good to start adding a few links. Add links to authority sites first, and in couple weeks to your money site.
     
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    I'd wait a couple of weeks.
     
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    One month is too long, I think 2 weeks would be fine.
     
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    You are joking right?
     
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    I add my links right away, i really don't think that google is going to redflag every new site that has backlinks on them, you people are really paranoid for the wrong reasons imho, if your PBN site holds up and doesn't look like a shitty PBN site then i see really no reason at all to wait
     
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    Would you create for every PBN site an own WMT account, or you put all sites in one or severy WMT accounts?
     
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    Do you know any Netherlands or EU/UK freehositng providers, where i can setup some PBN sites? Its quite expensive to use a paid account for every PBN site, expecially regarding different IP. For 100 sites you need at least 1000 USD for domains and 1500 USD for cheap paid hosting every year.
     
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    Would you create for every PBN site an own WMT account, or you put all sites in one or severy WMT accounts?
     
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    Do you know any Netherlands or EU/UK freehositng providers, where i can setup some PBN sites? Its quite expensive to use a paid account for every PBN site, expecially regarding different IP. For 100 sites you need at least 1000 USD for domains and 1500 USD for cheap paid hosting every year.
     
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    You can use the same cheap/free hosts as you would do with your English sites, and a big PBN cost only a lot of money if you don't make anything, and if you have a PBN of a 100 and you're not making a profit you are doing something very wrong, stop looking at the cost and look at what you get out of it,,,
     
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    Read what he is saying and you might learn something
     
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    submite site map waiting many day
     
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    I usually wait a maximum of 1-2 week after the site's reindexed before i drop some links. I haven't had any problems so far.
     
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    This depends on your work ethnics. I sometimes, add links after 2 - 4 weeks, depending on how much work i plan on doing with the blog.
    But most times, after adding the articles, i wait for few weeks, add a single link and buy some quality services to the PBN links.

    It's always a win win case. But this depends on how clean the expired blog is.