BabarX
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- Oct 19, 2018
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Hi folks. I'm new here but have been active for many years on other well-known, similar but inferior forums.
What has become obvious to me through the years when buying/trading backlinks is that the average PBN (really semi-public) link seller* usually turn all – and I mean all – of their normally vast lists of sites into certified, grade A excrement that would have zero chance to pass a manual review.
*note: this is past experience talking. I'm not talking about the average BHW seller, of who I have little experience (just one so far which was OK).
Now that I have that out of my system I would like to ask those of you with a more long-term approach, who mainly build PBNs for themselves/clients:
What does your timeline look like, on average, from point A: acquiring a nice-looking domain, to point B: entering the first "<a href..." with gentle, sticky fingers, aching to point to your bread and butter?
My own methods are barely methods, which is why I ask, but here they are anyway:
What has become obvious to me through the years when buying/trading backlinks is that the average PBN (really semi-public) link seller* usually turn all – and I mean all – of their normally vast lists of sites into certified, grade A excrement that would have zero chance to pass a manual review.
*note: this is past experience talking. I'm not talking about the average BHW seller, of who I have little experience (just one so far which was OK).
Now that I have that out of my system I would like to ask those of you with a more long-term approach, who mainly build PBNs for themselves/clients:
What does your timeline look like, on average, from point A: acquiring a nice-looking domain, to point B: entering the first "<a href..." with gentle, sticky fingers, aching to point to your bread and butter?
- How do you pick domains?
- How much content do you normally add first?
- Do you test on surrogates first (e.g. 3rd party sites with non-competitive but similar keywords) to check whether the domain is OK?
- How long before you add your first money-site link?
My own methods are barely methods, which is why I ask, but here they are anyway:
- First, I select domains only if I have a rough idea of what I can actually build there and where the links will go.
- I might pilfer select (linked-to) stuff from waybackmachine, but I don't systematically scrape. Depending on the topic, I will often add content that will not only make it look like a real site, but actually turn it into a (content-wise) real site/blog. This is a ton of work and probably not needed under most circumstances, but my targets tend to be in demanding niches.
- I suck at testing, though I should probably try harder. I never do surrogate testing, only check for indexation, and get results that I can rarely pinpoint one way or the other.
- Links to money sites will not appear for weeks up to a couple of months, before I've added enough 'real' content linking to relevant, not competing sites in the niche (or close to it). I don't just link to Wikipedia, but also minor, real sites with OK backlink credentials. Just stuff I like, basically, that isn't directly competing for my bread and butter.