PBN + Big Sites?

terieh · Oct 30, 2017

Hi everybody.

I have a couple questions to ask today about PBNs.

There are plenty of sellers that has many websites with quite decent metrics, but lets say its very hard to get a website of my related niche.

It is OK to buy RELATED ARTICLES about my niche on general niches, that are not 100% related?

Each domain has around 100 Referring Domains up to 500, CF TF +10 each one and so on.

And another one.

My websites are quite big ones, starting at 100.000 articles.

I do need authority in order to rank better, will those PBN links above work for that authority?

NO KEYWORD focused related, only authority to the main domain url.

My main idea is to order expired domains (you can't always do that or win that domain) + 2.0 RankerX + PBN links for those websites

Would like to hear your answers. Thanks you.

Nargil · Oct 31, 2017

It is OK to buy RELATED ARTICLES about my niche on general niches, that are not 100% related?

Not sure I follow this exactly. You are asking whether it's okay to post articles that are relevant to your niche on sites that are not relevant to your niche? If yes, then it's pretty much what most of the public PBNs do. It's definitely far from ideal. Ideally you want your own PBN that's repurposed for your niche.

Each has 100K articles? And those are not spun or anything? And yes, PBN links will help you to push the site higher, but if it's actually unique and decent content, then I would not risk public PBNs. If it's some autoblog stuff, then yeah, blast it away with public stuff no problem.

I am not fan of automated link building but what you outlined is pretty much evergreen. It's web 2.0s as tier 1 with crappy PBN links as tier 2. That's classic and perfectly fine.

MisterF · Oct 31, 2017

100 or 100k articles per site ?

If you've got sites with 100k articles and you've not much in the way of authority, then something is wrong is your niche is quite specific.

jackteam · Oct 31, 2017

terieh said:
I do need authority in order to rank better, will those PBN links above work for that authority?

NO KEYWORD focused related, only authority to the main domain url.

Yes you can increase rank by getting links from PBN sites. But if you build quality links from real site, it will give better result than PBN.
Using tools for your main site, possibility to get penalty if there is any mistake happened.
Did you check your keywords position?

menoah · Oct 31, 2017

NO KEYWORD focused related, only authority to the main domain url.

If it so, why don't you go for guest post links or press releases ? Those links might be helpful to increase authority and traffic flow. In terms of authority building, always do concentrate on building quality backlinks.

marrrko · Oct 31, 2017

100.000 articles and no authority yet?
I think you should clean your site first and then start with backlinks job.

terieh · Oct 31, 2017

Nargil said:
Not sure I follow this exactly. You are asking whether it's okay to post articles that are relevant to your niche on sites that are not relevant to your niche? If yes, then it's pretty much what most of the public PBNs do. It's definitely far from ideal. Ideally you want your own PBN that's repurposed for your niche.

Each has 100K articles? And those are not spun or anything? And yes, PBN links will help you to push the site higher, but if it's actually unique and decent content, then I would not risk public PBNs. If it's some autoblog stuff, then yeah, blast it away with public stuff no problem.

I am not fan of automated link building but what you outlined is pretty much evergreen. It's web 2.0s as tier 1 with crappy PBN links as tier 2. That's classic and perfectly fine.

Yes, posts on non-related-content PBN sites, seems is a general stuff people tends to do as its often quite difficult to get same niche links.

It goes from 70k to 240k. Scrapped content that only the main site has, worked on modifying the content, adding it a more unique thing, but totally automated.

There's a friend of mine that says building links to those websites if its not "C&B" from quite a lot of domains is a waste of money and time since i don't wanna rank my home, just the long tails of the articles that i post in mass.

jackteam said:
Yes you can increase rank by getting links from PBN sites. But if you build quality links from real site, it will give better result than PBN.
Using tools for your main site, possibility to get penalty if there is any mistake happened.
Did you check your keywords position?

Averaging from 4 to 20 positions on the long tail keywords

MisterF said:
100 or 100k articles per site ?

If you've got sites with 100k articles and you've not much in the way of authority, then something is wrong is your niche is quite specific.

Those are new sites with no authority, only an auctioned domain.

marrrko said:
100.000 articles and no authority yet?
I think you should clean your site first and then start with backlinks job.

Those are new sites with no authority, only an auctioned domain.

menoah said:
If it so, why don't you go for guest post links or press releases ? Those links might be helpful to increase authority and traffic flow. In terms of authority building, always do concentrate on building quality backlinks.

I've bought press releases in the past and in my concrete country it it's starting to be oversatured as all press releases are high priced and did nothing to my main goal overall.

Nargil · Oct 31, 2017

There's a friend of mine that says building links to those websites if its not "C&B" from quite a lot of domains is a waste of time since i don't wanna rank my home, just the long tails of the articles that i post in mass.

Doesn't matter. That's why you interlink your inner pages with homepage/category pages, so the link juice flows through entire site. There's no way to rank each internal page separately.

MisterF · Oct 31, 2017

What has been the cost of this project, thus far ?

terieh · Oct 31, 2017

MisterF said:
What has been the cost of this project, thus far ?

Domain + Scrapping tools + etc = about 400$

maildigger · Oct 31, 2017

Would you just point branded/naked links to the homepage to start linkbuilding than?

Nargil said:
Doesn't matter. That's why you interlink your inner pages with homepage/category pages, so the link juice flows through entire site. There's no way to rank each internal page separately.

Nargil · Oct 31, 2017

maildigger said:
Would you just point branded/naked links to the homepage to start linkbuilding than?

I would.

terieh · Oct 31, 2017

Nargil said:
Doesn't matter. That's why you interlink your inner pages with homepage/category pages, so the link juice flows through entire site. There's no way to rank each internal page separately.

Lets interlink the home to the category pages, lets say we do have 200.000 articles and 20 categories, so 10.000 articles per each category and 2000 pages of each category.

How would you interlink those to the categories, since only the firsts pages of those categories would get the link juice, if we do have 2000 pages per each category?

Nargil · Oct 31, 2017

terieh said:
Lets interlink the home to the category pages, lets say we do have 200.000 articles and 20 categories, so 10.000 articles per each category and 2000 pages of each category.

How would you interlink those to the categories, since only the firsts pages of those categories would get the link juice, if we do have 2000 pages per each category?

Some random related post plugin should do the trick.

maildigger · Oct 31, 2017

What kind of links would you use/consider for this?

I have a website which makes me about 500$/month with affiliates. Ranking my inner landingpages higher (I lean on brandnames) would could get me to 1K/month.

Nargil said:
I would.

Nargil · Oct 31, 2017

maildigger said:
What kind of links would you use/consider for this?

I have a website which makes me about 500$/month with affiliates. Ranking my inner landingpages higher (I lean on brandnames) would could get me to 1K/month.

It's either guest posts (including editorial links) or PBNs. You will have hard time to move established site up with anything else.

Soucha · Oct 31, 2017

Nargil said:
Some random related post plugin should do the trick.

If you don't mind me asking, in your experience does google really treat these related post/product module links the same as direct links in the contextual body?

Nargil · Oct 31, 2017

Soucha said:
If you don't mind me asking, in your experience does google really treat these related post/product module links the same as direct links in the contextual body?

As far as I know, they are not equal to actual contextual link, but interlinking a site like that... not that you have too many options.

OutOfContext · Nov 2, 2017

Nargil said:
As far as I know, they are not equal to actual contextual link, but interlinking a site like that... not that you have too many options.

I believe there are plugins that automatically create contextual links, never tried them though. I think you need to specify keywords for each article that the plugin will look for and use as anchors. So that may be too much work in the OP's case.

Nargil · Nov 2, 2017

OutOfContext said:
I believe there are plugins that automatically create contextual links, never tried them though. I think you need to specify keywords for each article that the plugin will look for and use as anchors. So that may be too much work in the OP's case.

Yeah, there are plugins like that but I have no experience with those. I have never worked with sites that big.

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