PBN!!! Are they still defendable with these Google updates?

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PBN!!! Are they still defendable with these Google updates?

When we visit to the BHW marketplace in we can see various of types PBN sales threads there. How many of those are survived with these last updates?

If it's not possible to know, then tell me my friends are PBN's still rock with these updates? what you experienced as a PBN user?


Love to know the thoughts.

Thank you
 
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@tiiberius @splishsplash what are your views since you’ll often share here care to add some advice here.

my opinion they'll yet work just fine
 
no matter what kind of google updates are and will be the stuff in the marketplace will be always the same, PBN's, parasites, social web 2.0's and so on, they will sell them until there is a demand. There are so many variables in SEO that you can't blame ranking or tanking due to a couple of links, and not one seller will take his thread down even if he knows that his stuff doesn't work.
PBN's and other link building schemes are just a drop in the bucket, for some it works for some it won't, and at the end of the day it depends on you testing stuff out
 
PBNs will work but only good ones.

Like anything in life, you get what you pay for.

A PBN link costing you $1, or where you get 50 links for $25 isn't going to make you think the domain cost $5k as an example.
 
PBNs as any other links will work until Google will say: Backlinks don't count anymore!

From this point, it's our choice how hardcore we want to be. Until now, backlinks and brand searches count more than anything, whatever haters will say, otherwise it's impossible for their algorithm foundation to work.

The important thing is where you get the backlinks, not how you get them. I know someone who sells 500 USD/link per year, if you see his PBN will blow your mind, for real, a real high-end PBN for big sharks. With 1 USD PBNs as @MisterF mentions, I find them a waste of space targeting money sites, it's like masochism your own site on purpose.
 
Mr Positive said:
@tiiberius @splishsplash what are your views since you’ll often share here care to add some advice here.

my opinion they'll yet work just fine
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The updates have nothing to do with links or pbns. They're all DeepRank updates. You'll notice with a lot of these updates your sites aren't dropping massively. It's drops from like #2 to #5 or #2 to #8, or #11 to #19

It's just shuffling around based on what the AI thinks are the best matches for different queries. They modify it and roll out the modification to see how it is on the live index, then they check over a lot of stuff manually and if it didn't work out they make tweaks to fix and roll out another minor update.

There will be slight things with links as they better understand content, but any link that's remotely natural will always be fine. They will never be able to accurately pin-point completely natural editorial links from paid links. It's not possible and nor is it important, because some whitehat sites are quality, some whitehat are trash, some blackhat are quality and some blackhat are trash. Ultimately google are just more interested in matching the right kind of pages with search queries and making sure they are trust worthy enough depending on the niche.
 
Mr Positive said:
@tiiberius @splishsplash what are your views since you’ll often share here care to add some advice here.

my opinion they'll yet work just fine
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pepeneo said:
no matter what kind of google updates are and will be the stuff in the marketplace will be always the same, PBN's, parasites, social web 2.0's and so on, they will sell them until there is a demand. There are so many variables in SEO that you can't blame ranking or tanking due to a couple of links, and not one seller will take his thread down even if he knows that his stuff doesn't work.
PBN's and other link building schemes are just a drop in the bucket, for some it works for some it won't, and at the end of the day it depends on you testing stuff out
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MisterF said:
PBNs will work but only good ones.

Like anything in life, you get what you pay for.

A PBN link costing you $1, or where you get 50 links for $25 isn't going to make you think the domain cost $5k as an example.
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Meddie said:
PBNs as any other links will work until Google will say: Backlinks don't count anymore!

From this point, it's our choice how hardcore we want to be. Until now, backlinks and brand searches count more than anything, whatever haters will say, otherwise it's impossible for their algorithm foundation to work.

The important thing is where you get the backlinks, not how you get them. I know someone who sells 500 USD/link per year, if you see his PBN will blow your mind, for real, a real high-end PBN for big sharks. With 1 USD PBNs as @MisterF mentions, I find them a waste of space targeting money sites, it's like masochism your own site on purpose.
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splishsplash said:
The updates have nothing to do with links or pbns. They're all DeepRank updates. You'll notice with a lot of these updates your sites aren't dropping massively. It's drops from like #2 to #5 or #2 to #8, or #11 to #19

It's just shuffling around based on what the AI thinks are the best matches for different queries. They modify it and roll out the modification to see how it is on the live index, then they check over a lot of stuff manually and if it didn't work out they make tweaks to fix and roll out another minor update.

There will be slight things with links as they better understand content, but any link that's remotely natural will always be fine. They will never be able to accurately pin-point completely natural editorial links from paid links. It's not possible and nor is it important, because some whitehat sites are quality, some whitehat are trash, some blackhat are quality and some blackhat are trash. Ultimately google are just more interested in matching the right kind of pages with search queries and making sure they are trust worthy enough depending on the niche.
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Thank you much for these answers friends. I understood, Now this's battle between AI and human with SEO knowledge. and we have blackhat SEO still alive.
 
For as long as backlink is a factor, PBN has a place in this world.

Attitude towards them is very important. That will determine how you treat them and how well they serve you.
 
I am ranking along with gsa and xrummer blasts. My recent project stuck on top 9 and i am still thinking wether i buy pbn or build pbn.. in other hand i own few sites so i connect them altagher. Some will say you will leave footprint cause if someone check my ahrefs wil reaeal all are gsa engines anchortext least 75% . it's all about niche. for some fiverr works for some odek works for some youtube works .. you got the point my friend ?
 
If the pbn are getting you traffic from pushing you upwards and that traffic looking around all your pages your be fine.

It mainly about getting traffic to look around and use the whole of your pages.

Pbn will always push upwards in algo but it the traffic you need to get indexed high ather every 30 days.

So great page design, and great content, and brilliant video and images are all needed to get traffic looking at all your pages and content...

This might look new to most SEO guys but that the way forward because from may 2021 will be default SEO
 
EdwinCol said:
I am ranking along with gsa and xrummer blasts. My recent project stuck on top 9 and i am still thinking wether i buy pbn or build pbn.. in other hand i own few sites so i connect them altagher. Some will say you will leave footprint cause if someone check my ahrefs wil reaeal all are gsa engines anchortext least 75% . it's all about niche. for some fiverr works for some odek works for some youtube works .. you got the point my friend ?
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Its not an issue if we link directly to money site using gsa tool links?
 
Global60 said:
Its not an issue if we link directly to money site using gsa tool links?
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It like a trick question, because each web 2.0 got there own ways dealing with affiliates getting traffic from them.

The only real way is use a short URL pointing to your own new domain then redirecting to your afflicate deal.

My opinion .
 
redarrow said:
It like a trick question, because each web 2.0 got there own ways dealing with affiliates getting traffic from them.

The only real way is use a short URL pointing to your own new domain then redirecting to your afflicate deal.

My opinion .
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Better for tier2. because the tool links too spammy. @redarrow
 
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