PBN and Cloudflare

Hi all,

I'm creating my PBN and have 10 sites so far on the service provided by Pazhosting so far but I'd like to add a few more accounts but I'm pretty anal moneywise and do not want to upgrade my account on Pazhosting and considering what I have read around here, SEO hosting is a no go for me.

So I was thinking : could I use the hosting account of my money sites and create a new wordpress on it and cloudflare the domain to this wordpress? To make things clearer imagine I have bought a cool domain to add to my PBN and I redirect this domain with cloudflare nameservers to an addon domain that I create on the hosting account that hosts my money sites ? Would that leave a footprint ? Would big G be able to spot that a website links to another website from the same hosting account ?

Thanks a lot for your answers

I don't think it's a good idea.

Cloudflare still leaks your info tbh.

Why don't you try a service like EBN?

You're leaving footprints.

Xlr8 said:

I don't think it's a good idea.

Cloudflare still leaks your info tbh.

Why don't you try a service like EBN?

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Thankls for your reply.

Pazhosting is just like EBN but slightly cheaper and quite convincing. I may have to upgrade my account with them then.
As for moneysites would you also advise against my strategy of using cloudflare then ? Having them on the same account and cloudflaring them?

If you are using CloudFlare for your money sites then you shouldn't worry about it. Quite a lot of people use CloudFlare so there won't be a problem.

However, if you are planning to use Cloudflare in your PBN strategy then I strictly suggest on using it on no more than 20% of your blogs. However, if there is a manual inspection or if someone is snooping in on your PBN then they can find a footprint.

dgeebee said:

Thankls for your reply.

Pazhosting is just like EBN but slightly cheaper and quite convincing. I may have to upgrade my account with them then.
As for money sites would you also advise against my strategy of using cloudflare then ? Having them on the same account and cloudflaring them?

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Xlr8 said:

If you are using CloudFlare for your money sites then you shouldn't worry about it. Quite a lot of people use CloudFlare so there won't be a problem.

However, if you are planning to use Cloudflare in your PBN strategy then I strictly suggest on using it on no more than 20% of your blogs. However, if there is a manual inspection or if someone is snooping in on your PBN then they can find a footprint.

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Great thanks for the answer. I will do as you advise for a few sites and then upgrade my plan.

Last question if you don't mind because I feel you are really knowledgeable on the subject I'd love to hear your opinion on the stats of my PBN : these are the stats
I've begun linking to my money site gradually for the last month and a half and I have seen improvement to my Serp results but still no #1 position of even first page position on google? I know there are plenty of other factors involved but would you say stats wise my pbn is ok. How big should be my pbn to see any result if I stay along these metrics for future domains?

Cheers for your input !

dgeebee said:

Great thanks for the answer. I will do as you advise for a few sites and then upgrade my plan.

Last question if you don't mind because I feel you are really knowledgeable on the subject I'd love to hear your opinion on the stats of my PBN : these are the stats

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I've begun linking to my money site gradually for the last month and a half and I have seen an improvement to my Serp results but still no #1 position of even first page position on google? I know there are plenty of other factors involved but would you say stats wise my pbn is ok. How big should be my pbn to see any result if I stay along these metrics for future domains?

Cheers for your input !

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I am not a big fan of metrics tbh. TF/DA/PA can easily be manipulated.

Personally, I think a domain is good to go on my network as long as its free from spam with a decent amount of backlinks.

However, your stats look good. Better than mine actually. If they are not spammy then they'll give you a nice boost.

I can't say how big of a PBN you need to rank. It varies depending on your keyword and other backlinks you are building.

If you are trying to cut down on your PBN hosting prices then you can use some expired web2.0s like Tumblr and boost them up with GSA, Sape, and 301s. The boost is not as much as the one which a PBN will give you. But it will reduce your PBN costs significantly.

Xlr8 said:

I am not a big fan of metrics tbh. TF/DA/PA can easily be manipulated.

Personally, I think a domain is good to go on my network as long as its free from spam with a decent amount of backlinks.

However, your stats look good. Better than mine actually. If they are not spammy then they'll give you a nice boost.

I can't say how big of a PBN you need to rank. It varies depending on your keyword and other backlinks you are building.

If you are trying to cut down on your PBN hosting prices then you can use some expired web2.0s like Tumblr and boost them up with GSA, Sape, and 301s. The boost is not as much as the one which a PBN will give you. But it will reduce your PBN costs significantly.

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What tools do you use to scrape expired domains? Do you use any guides here on bhw? If so can you please link me the guide.

Xlr8 said:

I am not a big fan of metrics tbh. TF/DA/PA can easily be manipulated.

Personally, I think a domain is good to go on my network as long as its free from spam with a decent amount of backlinks.

However, your stats look good. Better than mine actually. If they are not spammy then they'll give you a nice boost.

I can't say how big of a PBN you need to rank. It varies depending on your keyword and other backlinks you are building.

If you are trying to cut down on your PBN hosting prices then you can use some expired web2.0s like Tumblr and boost them up with GSA, Sape, and 301s. The boost is not as much as the one which a PBN will give you. But it will reduce your PBN costs significantly.

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Thanks for your answers ! They do reassure me and set me on the right track !

jjgg89 said:

What tools do you use to scrape expired domains? Do you use any guides here on bhw? If so can you please link me the guide.

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Hi Jigg
I personally have bought the domain names at auction but warriosam53 posted an interesting strategy here :
find-hundreds-of-expired-domains-in-5-minutes-for-5-bucks.831569 (name of thread on BHW: sorry can't ost links yet!)
You can replicate it with Scrapebox as well.
Good luck !