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PBN > 301 Redirect > Web 2.0 > MS (Is it make sense?)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bslll, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. bslll

    bslll Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    I was wondering about this: I heard a guy who has a method where he bought an expired domain and then made a 301 redirecting to a WEB 2.0. In his words, it's a SUPER web 2.0 and also help avoid penalities.

    Well, I do not agree with it and I would like to know if anyone tested somenthing like this.

    In my thoughts, it would not be the best way to take advantage of the juice link, if the expired domain metrics are good, you should 301 directly to your MS or maybe create a PBN.

    In addition, WEB 2.0 is an asset that you have no control over, it can be deleted at any time.

    If you want to give authority to WEB 2.0, there are other strategies like building GSA links.

    I wonder if Google would track continuously an expired domain redirected from the registry, when you redirect directly from the registry how long this domain will remain indexed?

    Well, I'm not saying it will not work, but in my opinion, it's not the best way.

    He says to link PBN and also WEB 2.0 for SUPER WEB 2.0, and both linking MS to! If the idea is avoinding penalities i wouldn't do it.

    Well, in my head does not make sense, I would like to read some opinions on this ..

    tks
     
  2. drewp123

    drewp123 Junior Member

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    Well...

    I had a penalized domain that I did a double 301 to a web 2.0 to see what would happen.

    I'm also in the process of learning to boost web 2.0s, but in light of Fred am afraid of blasting pure shit at them.

    Any input is appreciated!
     
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  3. redarrow

    redarrow Elite Member

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    301 fine ,even 500 hundred domains , make sure rhe last fomain point to the working website......

    Redirect and 301 dont lost traffic it all follows no matter how many times if bouncing around
     
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  4. SpoonFeeder

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    I have tested this in multiple patterns and this is what I found.

    If the expired domain in concern is niche related, then 301'ing it to the money site is the way to go. If it's got domain authority but non-niche related links, then setting up a PBN and linking it to MS is the right way to get maximum link juice from the expired domain.

    I'd say the so-called super web 2.0 is pure BS maybe because he's got no time/money to setup a PBN.

    Here's a little math to grasp the flow easily.

    Expired Domain Link Juice = 100JP(JuicePower)

    301 from Expired Domain to Web 2.0. Now the Web 2.0 will have around 95+JP

    External link from Web 2.0 to MS = 20-30JP after Web 2.0's own consumption

    Setting up a PBN on the Expired Domain and Linking it to MS = 70JP

    301 from Expired domain to MS = 95+JP

    If niche-related expired domain, 301 it to MS ELSE setup a PBN and link it to MS.
     
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  5. rafark

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    Wow juice points! :D
     
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  6. MikeyMikey13

    MikeyMikey13 Supreme Member

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    Hmm are you talking about multiple 301 redirects? Like link>301>301>301>moneysite?

    I thought all the 301's had to be indexed and they work like a chain?
     
  7. MikeyMikey13

    MikeyMikey13 Supreme Member

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    Redirecting will only work if the site is niche related. Or the "juice points"(as you put it) will be worth 0
     
  8. SpoonFeeder

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    Looks like you skipped the last line in my post. Here it is again...

    If niche-related expired domain, 301 it to MS ELSE setup a PBN and link it to MS.
     
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    "I was wondering about this: I heard a guy who has a method where he bought an expired domain and then made a 301 redirecting to a WEB 2.0. In his words, it's a SUPER web 2.0 and also help avoid penalities."

    task for the next 2 weeks:
    visit:
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/black-hat-seo.28/

    read last 20 pages.
     
  10. bslll

    bslll Newbie

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    Very cool! You made it clear.

    Is there any study about the power of link juice?
     
  11. bslll

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    HAHAHA!

    I got it.

    I'm looking for reason that makes sense about why this is wrong ou should be avoided.

    I exposed some reasons and if you could help, I would appreciate it.

    I want to find reasonable grounds to refute it.

    A lot of people are being cheated about it.

    Tks
     
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    ^^ This is one of those gold nuggets that appear here on BHW like once a month. Perfect explanation.

    To OP - You are badly overthinking this. The more "tiers" you use to transfer the link juice, the smaller effect it will have.

    301 redirects are usable only if you have strong and super niche relevant domain. Otherwise, as @SpoonFeeder said, repurpose the site and make a PBN out of it. You can leave web 2.0s from the equation completely. Merely for a diversity.
     
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  13. bslll

    bslll Newbie

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    Yes, I agree with you.

    I just want to find some points to refute this statement about "super web 2.0".

    I don't know if I made myself clear, I want to base the refutation in the experiences and tests that someone made.

    We found that there is a consensus about it is not the best way, now i want to tell the reasons. If you could help...
     
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    Nice post ,just trying this method now ,I think find some stable (won't get deleted easily) web 2.0s is a good solution
     
  15. Immergeil

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    Someone who tried this maybe can post some results here ?
     
  16. nichexposure

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    Wow what a juicy explanation by @SpoonFeeder. Good to read your case study which makes some sense. Thumbs up... :):)
     
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