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Passing Google Adwords site check

Discussion in 'Adwords' started by bucket, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. bucket

    bucket Newbie

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    I'm trying to get around Adwords rules. Its easy enough to cloak to SE spiders but keep getting caught from their manual inspections. For instance when one of the google staff hit the URL and the cloakings revealed.

    Is there a way to get around that, an IP list, some pattern in their browsers / acceptance process ?

    Willing to pay BIG on this one. PM me if you know your stuff.
     
  2. rebbeca

    rebbeca Regular Member

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    No.
    Google finds out everything.
     
  3. berzah

    berzah Newbie

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    I know this solution but it's priceless...
     
  4. gravy

    gravy Newbie

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    what is cloaking?
     
  5. bucket

    bucket Newbie

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    Everythings got a price. What you got ?


     
  6. darkface

    darkface Senior Member

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    Everything got a price that is true but the solution to this problem is really priceless, being able to get a 10/10 for every keyword and doing directlinking is just too valueable, I know I'd never give out the cloaker I got
     
  7. JayInOrlando

    JayInOrlando Newbie

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    Anyone care to put at least a small price on the solution? I've got access to plenty of good proxy IP's and cards to setup accounts with. What I don't have is the cloaking needed to get my initial page past the review and then redirect to the real landing page. It would be great to get this going, as I could ramp up the traffic and bank!

    J
     
  8. bryanon

    bryanon Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Why not just cloak it for all traffic from US and India (that's where their quality assurance dept is) and make the page direct-link for visitors from all other countries.

    Sure, you'll use a lot of valuable traffic by not selling to people from US, but even getting 20% is far better than getting 0% (and banned).
     
  9. rxxpertz

    rxxpertz Regular Member

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    First off, its not true that quality assurance deptt is in US and India. Sometimes they do review ads locally too.

    As for manual review - there are more than 2 ways of bypassing them.

    Best way of going about it is to have a custom solution coded for this working at several logical levels. Some of them are....

    1. Geographical filter
    2. Visitor referral source filter
    3. Real vs Bot filter
     
  10. Ghoast

    Ghoast Power Member

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    So you know the referrer of Google's review team and you have a program set up that sends them somewhere else to a 'clean' page?

    And you also combine this with a Geo filter cos you know where the reviewers are located?

    And also combine these two things with real/bot filter so you know that it's an actual person reviewing the site who needs to be sent to the 'clean' page? - Why do you have this step? Why not just the geo and referral filters because if the visitor is Google reviewing your site (if it be human or bot) I wouldn't want either on the 'non clean' page.

    That's pretty smart stuff though, I guess the hard part is finding the referrer source and the geo location.. If you don't mind me asking how did you go about doing that?

    Cheers
     
  11. bucket

    bucket Newbie

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    Well, its not hard to find the GEO location.
     
  12. rxxpertz

    rxxpertz Regular Member

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    I cant find the referral of Google adwords team but I can make out whether they are visitors visiting my site directly or someone visiting my ads.

    for geo location using a geo redirect script is the easiest way. block it for the people off the targeted geography and allow redirect for people off the geography.

    cant reveal more than that on forum.
     
  13. JayInOrlando

    JayInOrlando Newbie

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    Wouldn't Google be smart enough to use a faked IP to get around any geolocation scripts or randomly rotate there IPs?

    If you'd care to send a PM about it, I've be very grateful.
     
  14. rxxpertz

    rxxpertz Regular Member

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    When I cloak my landers, I do it using two logical perspective:-

    1. Is this a visit by bot?
    2. Or, Is this a visit by adwords editor?
     
  15. ibmblackedition

    ibmblackedition Newbie

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    What do you mean by "they do review ads locally too"? What exactly "locally" means? Like if you've opened an account from TX, US the ADW team from Texas will review your account OR is it a country that you're reffering to like if you're opening an account from France the adw review team will come from France OR if you opened an account from France and will set up a campaingn to run in Canada, the ADW team will come from Canada also?

    Regarding your "logic levels" they are ... pretty logic :D BUT:

    1. Geographical filter - that's pretty easy and understandable if the "they do review ads locally too" statement is understood.

    2. Visitor referral source filter - I doubt that the ADW review team will come from something like mygooglereviewcontrolpanel/websites_to_be_reviewed/mysite so I can filter that refferer to figure out if it's the review team visiting my website or maybe you are reffering to the fact that if they come with a blank refferr it means that it might be the review team or if they come with the google search url refferal it means it might be a real visitor. What would stop the review team to manually check your website by comming directly from search results?

    3. Real vs Bot filter - is kind of hard to achieve because unless you have a complete G Bot ip list you cannot really separate the bots from real visitors (at least not relying on the User Agent as they don't always use the "googlebot" footprint and I've seen them disquised as real visitors).

    A kick in the right dirrection would help us to better understand the G mechanism and would be lovely if we could pay them back for all those banned accounts with that owesome golden rule of theirs "we don't have to explain anything".
     
  16. frigideru

    frigideru Registered Member

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    Cannot understand why the f..k are you telling this if you are not going to help anyone with a clue , or better with the solution ??? Stay on your cloacker and just make tons of cash or eat more bullshit but don't share it.