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papaRock don't do buisness with him.

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by Teucrus, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Teucrus

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    He posted a freelancer request here:
    Code:
    blackhatworld(dot)com/blackhat-seo/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=4696071
    I responded and even offered him to do the job for 25$ instead of the 50$ he offered bacause it was an easy job.

    I made him 100% what he asked for.

    Code:
    193.92.77.191:8080/search/search.htm
    and i even added it to my facebook page to show hime how it looks.

    Code:
    facebook(dot)com/pages/Alg-Technologies/292005874164410?sk=app_190322544333196
    this is the skype log.
    Code:
    hello
    [10/1/2012 8:43:05 πμ] WaliHost: yeah hello
    [10/1/2012 8:44:15 πμ] albert.gukasian:  do you already have a searchbox???
    [10/1/2012 8:44:29 πμ] WaliHost: in the website
    [10/1/2012 8:44:44 πμ] WaliHost: but i need to create another one with 500px
    [10/1/2012 8:44:49 πμ] albert.gukasian: can i get access to the files of the website???
    [10/1/2012 8:45:17 πμ] albert.gukasian: i can extract only the searchbox and give it to you to do whatever you want with it
    [10/1/2012 8:45:45 πμ] WaliHost: This is the site..ehotelsguide(dot)com/
    [10/1/2012 8:46:08 πμ] albert.gukasian: yes i can see that at the pm you sent me
    [10/1/2012 8:46:24 πμ] WaliHost: What is your BHW ID again?
    [10/1/2012 8:46:59 πμ] albert.gukasian: teucrus
    [10/1/2012 8:47:03 πμ] WaliHost: The problem is that this is an affiliate script.
    [10/1/2012 8:47:23 πμ] WaliHost: My website is only the admin panel for the layout setting.
    [10/1/2012 8:47:35 πμ] WaliHost: But not MySQL database content.
    [10/1/2012 8:50:59 πμ] albert.gukasian: ok no problem
    [10/1/2012 8:51:08 πμ] albert.gukasian: i can work the way it is
    [10/1/2012 8:51:58 πμ] albert.gukasian: do you want the search resaults to be displayed on the same iframe you will use or you want the resaults to be displayed on your site?
    [10/1/2012 8:52:14 πμ] WaliHost: in the site... is it doable?
    [10/1/2012 8:53:00 πμ] albert.gukasian: sure when someone will search it will open a new window and will send him to your site
    [10/1/2012 8:53:08 πμ] albert.gukasian: is 25$ OK???
    [10/1/2012 8:53:16 πμ] WaliHost: ok..
    [10/1/2012 8:53:33 πμ] WaliHost: but when the someone search in the iframe, i want the result to come out in the site
    [10/1/2012 8:53:42 πμ] albert.gukasian: sure :)
    [10/1/2012 8:54:07 πμ] WaliHost: but without mysql data is it really doable for you?
    [10/1/2012 8:54:22 πμ] WaliHost: have you take a look at the site?
    [10/1/2012 8:54:33 πμ] albert.gukasian: yes i saw the site
    [10/1/2012 8:54:43 πμ] albert.gukasian: i think it's doable
    [10/1/2012 8:54:53 πμ] WaliHost: how long do you need to complete it?
    [10/1/2012 8:55:12 πμ] albert.gukasian: i think 1-2 hours
    [10/1/2012 8:55:15 πμ] albert.gukasian: maybe less
    [10/1/2012 8:55:37 πμ] albert.gukasian: i will let you know once it's ready
    [10/1/2012 8:55:50 πμ] WaliHost: give me one second..
    [10/1/2012 8:56:04 πμ] WaliHost: going to get you the admin password..
    [10/1/2012 8:56:07 πμ] WaliHost: do you need it?
    [10/1/2012 8:56:15 πμ] WaliHost: but there is nothing much there..
    [10/1/2012 8:56:25 πμ] albert.gukasian: no it's ok
    [10/1/2012 8:56:50 πμ] WaliHost: you dont need the admin? so what do you need
    [10/1/2012 9:03:13 πμ] WaliHost: are you there?
    [10/1/2012 9:03:49 πμ] albert.gukasian: yes
    [10/1/2012 9:04:00 πμ] albert.gukasian: nothing
    [10/1/2012 9:04:08 πμ] albert.gukasian: i can work with only the site
    [10/1/2012 9:04:40 πμ] WaliHost: ok then...let see the result later.
    [10/1/2012 9:16:51 πμ] albert.gukasian: did you set that eifel tower background?
    [10/1/2012 9:17:03 πμ] albert.gukasian: or it's from your affiliate?
    [10/1/2012 9:17:29 πμ] albert.gukasian: i need the image name and url to remove it from the searchbox
    [10/1/2012 9:17:44 πμ] WaliHost: give me a second
    [10/1/2012 9:20:37 πμ] WaliHost: background image: ehotelsguide(dot)com/files/userfiles/images/background-image-3.jpg
    [10/1/2012 9:20:55 πμ] albert.gukasian: thank you
    [10/1/2012 9:21:44 πμ] WaliHost: just to double check with you, you know what i want right? If the user search 'Hotel in Greece' for example in the iFrame searchbox, the result of Greece Hotel will appear in the website...
    [10/1/2012 9:22:03 πμ] albert.gukasian: yes
    [10/1/2012 9:22:03 πμ] albert.gukasian: :)
    [10/1/2012 9:22:06 πμ] WaliHost: cool :)
    [10/1/2012 9:22:17 πμ] WaliHost: just curios
    [10/1/2012 9:22:55 πμ] albert.gukasian: it will open a new window and will display your site with the search resaults like if he searched directly in your site
    [10/1/2012 9:23:16 πμ] WaliHost: yes correct, that is what i want. TQ :)
    [10/1/2012 9:40:13 πμ] albert.gukasian: I think i am done
    [10/1/2012 9:40:24 πμ] albert.gukasian: i will do some testing and i will let you know
    [10/1/2012 9:45:52 πμ] WaliHost: ok bro... please upload to your host later so that i can test it too  :)
    [10/1/2012 9:46:06 πμ] albert.gukasian: sure
    [10/1/2012 9:46:14 πμ] albert.gukasian: just some tweaking left :)
    [10/1/2012 9:46:44 πμ] WaliHost: ok
    [10/1/2012 9:51:23 πμ] albert.gukasian: width is 615
    [10/1/2012 9:51:26 πμ] albert.gukasian: is that ok?
    [10/1/2012 9:51:32 πμ] albert.gukasian: or you need 500??
    [10/1/2012 9:51:43 πμ] WaliHost: Facebook iFrame max at 500px only
    [10/1/2012 9:51:50 πμ] albert.gukasian: ok
    [10/1/2012 9:52:00 πμ] albert.gukasian: let me fix that
    [10/1/2012 9:52:04 πμ] WaliHost: cool
    [10/1/2012 10:46:40 πμ] WaliHost: So how is it going?
    [10/1/2012 10:47:06 πμ] albert.gukasian: I had to go out
    [10/1/2012 10:47:19 πμ] WaliHost: oh ok
    [10/1/2012 10:47:19 πμ] albert.gukasian: I an on mobile right now
    [10/1/2012 10:47:39 πμ] albert.gukasian: I will go back in 30 minutes
    [10/1/2012 10:47:51 πμ] WaliHost: nevermind, just put a link of your host here later in case i'm out..
    [10/1/2012 10:48:36 πμ] albert.gukasian: I will do something better:)  i will put it on a facebook page
    [10/1/2012 10:49:09 πμ] WaliHost: ok cool.. so that i can give it a try later.
    [10/1/2012 10:49:15 πμ] WaliHost: TQ
    [10/1/2012 11:50:23 πμ] albert.gukasian: hey are you there?
    [10/1/2012 11:50:41 πμ] albert.gukasian: It's ready
    [10/1/2012 11:56:34 πμ] WaliHost: hey buddy
    [10/1/2012 11:56:42 πμ] WaliHost: yeahe here
    [10/1/2012 11:58:20 πμ] albert.gukasian: ok let me give you some instructions
    [10/1/2012 11:59:36 πμ] albert.gukasian: 193.92.77.191:8080/search/search.htm
    [10/1/2012 11:59:53 πμ] albert.gukasian: the width wil autoadjust
    [10/1/2012 12:00:23 μμ] albert.gukasian: also on the iframe choose to disable the scrolbars
    [10/1/2012 12:00:34 μμ] albert.gukasian: let me know what you think
    [10/1/2012 12:00:43 μμ] albert.gukasian: my paypal is xxxxxxxxx(at)xxxxxxxx.xxx
    [10/1/2012 12:01:53 μμ] WaliHost: huh.. are you 16? just curious haha
    [10/1/2012 12:01:58 μμ] albert.gukasian: no
    [10/1/2012 12:02:06 μμ] albert.gukasian: i made that when i was 16
    [10/1/2012 12:02:14 μμ] WaliHost: :D
    [10/1/2012 12:02:16 μμ] albert.gukasian: i am using it for spam mail
    [10/1/2012 12:02:22 μμ] WaliHost: ok let me check the link..
    [10/1/2012 12:02:35 μμ] WaliHost: hmm how come i see the same size as the website? Is that 500px?
    [10/1/2012 12:02:51 μμ] albert.gukasian: no
    [10/1/2012 12:02:59 μμ] albert.gukasian: it's more
    [10/1/2012 12:03:10 μμ] albert.gukasian: but when you put it in iFrame will adjust
    [10/1/2012 12:03:19 μμ] albert.gukasian: i used it on a fb page
    [10/1/2012 12:03:24 μμ] albert.gukasian: it works perfectly
    [10/1/2012 12:03:39 μμ] albert.gukasian: just choose to disable the scrollbars
    [10/1/2012 12:03:43 μμ] WaliHost: the link is not a facebook page...
    [10/1/2012 12:03:47 μμ] albert.gukasian: i know
    [10/1/2012 12:03:51 μμ] WaliHost: hmm... how can i sure of this ya
    [10/1/2012 12:03:58 μμ] WaliHost: do you have the facebook link?
    [10/1/2012 12:04:13 μμ] albert.gukasian: wait please
    [10/1/2012 12:04:17 μμ] WaliHost: ok thank you
    [10/1/2012 12:07:49 μμ] albert.gukasian: just try it
    [10/1/2012 12:07:55 μμ] albert.gukasian: on your page
    [10/1/2012 12:07:58 μμ] albert.gukasian: i have to go
    [10/1/2012 12:08:05 μμ] albert.gukasian: be back in 15 minutes
    [10/1/2012 12:08:05 μμ] WaliHost: what is your time there?
    [10/1/2012 12:08:08 μμ] albert.gukasian: i am at work atm
    [10/1/2012 12:08:12 μμ] WaliHost: is it 13:05?
    [10/1/2012 12:08:17 μμ] albert.gukasian: 12:05
    [10/1/2012 12:08:40 μμ] WaliHost: oh ok... sorry to disturb you working
    [10/1/2012 12:08:49 μμ] albert.gukasian: test it with your page and if you have problem just let me know
    [10/1/2012 12:08:52 μμ] albert.gukasian: no prob
    [10/1/2012 12:10:25 μμ] WaliHost: It's 18:10 here and i need to pick up my wife and kids.
    Will test it once i'm back at 19:30 and will let you know.
    Thanks mate..
    [10/1/2012 1:27:54 μμ] albert.gukasian: facebook(dot)com/pages/Alg-Technologies/292005874164410?sk=app_190322544333196
    [10/1/2012 1:27:57 μμ] albert.gukasian: try this
    [10/1/2012 2:10:29 μμ] WaliHost: Hello..
    [10/1/2012 2:10:35 μμ] WaliHost: sorry i just came back.
    [10/1/2012 2:11:04 μμ] WaliHost: what time do you finish work?
    are you online at home later?
    [10/1/2012 2:11:56 μμ] albert.gukasian: i will finish at 16:30 local time
    [10/1/2012 2:14:21 μμ] albert.gukasian: but i will go late home
    [10/1/2012 2:14:31 μμ] WaliHost: It's 2 pm there now right?
    So our differences is 6 hours.
    Will you online at home later after finish work?
    Around what time will you be online?
    [10/1/2012 2:15:00 μμ] WaliHost: It's ok because i normally stay late untul 4 am local time (11 pm your time)
    [10/1/2012 2:15:11 μμ] WaliHost: *until
    [10/1/2012 2:24:06 μμ] albert.gukasian: i dont know what time i will be home and when i get home i will be probably with my girlfriend
    [10/1/2012 2:26:28 μμ] albert.gukasian: i have more time here at work than at home :)
    [10/1/2012 2:26:42 μμ] albert.gukasian: i work more at home than at work :P
    [10/1/2012 2:33:48 μμ] albert.gukasian: why would you need me online at home?
    [10/1/2012 2:34:01 μμ] albert.gukasian: isn't that what you asked for?
    [10/1/2012 2:54:58 μμ] WaliHost: sorry it's dinner time here..will get back to you
    [10/1/2012 2:56:18 μμ] albert.gukasian: ok
    [10/1/2012 5:26:34 μμ] albert.gukasian: hey
    [10/1/2012 5:26:36 μμ] albert.gukasian: i am home
    [10/1/2012 5:26:39 μμ] albert.gukasian: now
    [10/1/2012 5:43:42 μμ] albert.gukasian: are you there?
    [10/1/2012 6:38:10 μμ] albert.gukasian: ?
    [11/1/2012 1:19:47 πμ] albert.gukasian: hey
    [11/1/2012 1:19:50 πμ] albert.gukasian: are you there?
    [12/1/2012 5:52:55 μμ] albert.gukasian: hey
    [12/1/2012 5:54:26 μμ] WaliHost: hey... gimme 10 minute ok buddy
    [12/1/2012 5:54:31 μμ] albert.gukasian: ok
    [12/1/2012 5:58:49 μμ] WaliHost: i'm online on the other side.. hold on ok buddy
    [12/1/2012 5:59:04 μμ] albert.gukasian: ok
    [12/1/2012 7:25:18 μμ] albert.gukasian: ???
     
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  2. trustedfire9

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    waiting him to reply to this we can't make decision now , but if this true he should
    be banned , again I'm sure admins/mods here will make the best decision after
    investigation .
     
  3. Teucrus

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    He added negative iTrader and he isn't online on skype. Let's see if he will respond here....
     
  4. papaRock

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    I already pass the project to someone else as he manage to deliver as per my requirement.

    I have no interest in continuing or prolong this matter.

    Should money is your main concern than i will transfer the $25 as a token of appreciation.

    Thank You.
     
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    Just curious why people don't ask for 100% upfront on such a low $ project.
    I see too many posts here and on other forums with the same.

    JQ
     
  6. papaRock

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    OP, already sent you a PM asking for your Paypal but yet no reply.

    Are you gonna reply me back or u gonna twist and turn this story later?


    Edit: Come on man, still waiting for your reply and it's already 1am here.
     
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    Another sucker getting ripped off by the HotelsCombined affiliate program, it's easy to make good looking white-label sites, but the pages don't get indexed and it's the lowest paying hotel affiliate program out there.

    If someone books a $1000 hotel with HotelsCombined, you get around $0-$1, with almost any other affiliate program you would get at least $50 (5% of the total booking value).

    Stay away from Hotels Combined and join the other affiliate programs directly.
     
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  8. Teucrus

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    As i said in the PM (Which you did not respond):
    You could have informed me about the matter. Money is not the only matter. Keeping the agreement we made was the matter. You stopped responding without any reason. I posted you both html and facebook links and you didn't respond or give me a feedback if it's ok or not. So now I am expecting to get payed for my services. I sent you the paypal email with in the PM.
     
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  9. Teucrus

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    All talk but no action. Still no responce....
     
  10. papaRock

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    Ok.. you know what?
    I have been keeping quite and letting you do all the talking, whining and crying.
    But none have heard any story on my side as a customer.
    Do bare in mind that i don't receive any code neither do i receive/steal any of your work.
    But then i still agree (in this very thread) to pay you as a courtesy for your service.

    If you check my 1st post in this thread i did told you that i don't want to prolong this.
    Honestly it's only $25 and i asked you to PM me with your Paypal.
    So i'm expecting to receive a short PM from you with the Paypal email.
    But instead you shoot me a PM with all those words like all the fault is on my side.

    From a generous mood to give you the $25, then my mood turn sour with all your behaviour.
    So i seek Wiz advice and after discussed with him i agree to pay you since it's only $25.
    I was waiting for you to online so that you, me and Wiz can settle this on the spot.

    So i decided to wait for you in the morning since our time difference is 6 hours.
    But then today when i'm online, i noticed you post the below:

    OK. That is already push me to the limit.
    Instead of having the intention to pay you the full amount, now i'm jumping in to give you a new proposal.

    So please read on...

    In this very thread you said it's and easy job right?
    It's only take you 1-2 hours right?
    And again do bare in mind that i didn't receive any completed work from you.

    If you check the chat log, i did told you to make a sample so that i know you understand my requirement.
    And you told me to wait for few hours and 'You Can Do Something Better'.
    At the same time there are others who approach me as well.

    My requirement is:
    To change the wide layout from the original site to a 500px size.
    So that i can iFrame it into Facebook Fanpage.

    To cut the story short. Below is your result:

    [​IMG]

    My Review as a customer:
    It is not even 500px and its actual size is 650px width
    When i put it in iFrame you can see the scroll up down left and right
    Furthermore there is NO SOMETHING BETTER as you promised.


    Meanwhile this is a sample made by other guy:

    [​IMG]

    My Review as a customer:
    Its perfectly fit the size at 500px
    He even resize all the other content from the website.
    Everthing fit perfectly in the Facebook iFrame


    As a customer obviously i have the right to choose,
    and i am not obligated to choose yours should your sample do not meet my requirement.
    Hence my money goes to the other guy and i'm paying him extra $50 for his great effort in providing me extra value.


    My conclusion/summary:
    So i pay to the guy who provide me the best sample and he forward me with all the code.
    I don't even take any of your code neither you send any code to me.

    So this is the story where everyone have missed.
    Should i pay another $25 to you for a service which is not even meet to my requirement?
    But then again i do understand its a service and you spend your time to make the sample.
    And i admit part-of-it is my mistake coz i didn't reply you as i thought you would understand (beside our 6 hours time differences)

    So when you open this thread and making me look bad (when i'm as a customer clearly have the right) so i was shocked.
    Then i post in this thread that i don't want to prolong this as it's only a small matter and i don't mind donating $25 to you.
    But then you post here and there about me which is really pushing my patience to the limit.

    My NEW proposal to you:
    I know you spent an hour to do it but like you said in this thread it's an easy job.
    Nevertheless i don't take or receive any of your work (and i'm not even satisfied with the sample)

    Honestly... Initially i plan to give you $25 as a token of appreciation.
    But by looking at how you manage this whole situation, i change my mind.

    I'm willing to give you $10 for the hours that you spent to create the 'incomplete sample'.
    It's not about the money, it's about the principle and my right as a customer.

    Should you agree, just write me a SIMPLE message and i will transfer to you asap.
     
  11. Teucrus

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    All i asked was to give me a feedback and let me know if it was what you needed. Instead you disapeared and dindn't contact me at all, until i opened this thread. Of course it's you right to choose whether you like what i offer or not. But it's my right to be informed. I can't spend hours or days waiting for a feedback. Also i provided with a facebook sample page showing you that the content is automaticly resized matching the iFrame.
    [​IMG]
    I never asked for money at the first place. If you didn't like what i did you just could tell me and that would be the end of it. As everyone can see at the end of skype log, you wouldn't respond properly and you always couldn't talk or you had something to do. Anyway... I have sent you my paypal email multiple times.
    Do whatever you want. I really got bored of you. Just next time when you hire someone let him know if you are satisfied or not instead of disapearing like a thief. And yes i thought you just copied the site and disappeared. If I would do the same as you did what would you think????
    That's all i have to say. This case is over. If you wish remove the negative iTrade rating and i will too.(I hope it's possible.)
     
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  13. papaRock

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    HAPPY CHINESSE NEW YEAR TO ALL..!!
    Sorry as i was away for the festive season....


    OK back to business..
    I don't have much issue on the iTrader since i'm not selling anything here.
    But earlier i have discussed this with Wiz and he gave me a solution in regards to the rating..
    which actually involve Pofecker as the Super Admin..

    Anyway PLEASE check your PM for this.

    On a separate note..
    It's good to see your sample below:
    and i got no further comment neither do i want to drag this..

    [​IMG]

    Meanwhile here is the sample from someone that i successfully hired.
    It's nicely fit facebook and meet all my requirement and furthermore he go extra mile for this.

    [​IMG]

    From a business point of view i know i already make the right decision in choosing him.

    Anyway thank you for your effort.

    Cheers

    As OP said in post#11...CASE CLOSED.

     
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