Paid backlinks cannot verify?

john_doe_

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Hi there,

we just wanted to involve the paid post in PBN to trigger our SEO effort (before, we only do on-page SEO and backlinks ourselves).
Since this is our first time to do this, I have a question that hopefully to get your professional idea.

We found a vendor looks good (and not cheap), however, after browsing their website and talking with them, it seems we won't get a detail info about what we paid.
Following statement is in their website, it seems to me that we cannot know what article is published, on where, and how long the post (blog) lasts. - Though they "guarantee in the service statement".

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May I ask:
is this normal in the paid backlinks (blog post) industry? If yes, how to know whether we get what we paid?
e.g. paid $60, and we are told: OK, an article has been published in a domain in TF 45, 1200 words in the article. This article will be there forever.
How can we validate this?

Your input is appreciated.
JD
 
It's a double-edged sword. A PBN that does not give the full urls of your bought links is living up to the 'Private' part of 'Private Blog Network', which means that it's harder for example for a bad actor to sign up, buy a few links and then immediately report the domains those links appear on. But like you said, you have no immediate validation that what you've paid for actually exists.

You should be able to validate that your links have been placed by keeping an eye on your backlink reports, both in GSC and via various tools like Ahrefs. As the link you're buying is being advertised via TF, which is a Majestic metric, then that should mean that at least Majestic's backlink reports will be reporting it.

Regarding the question of if this behaviour is normal in the PBN industry - I'd say no, not in the majority of cases.
 
is this normal in the paid backlinks (blog post) industry? If yes, how to know whether we get what we paid?
e.g. paid $60, and we are told: OK, an article has been published in a domain in TF 45, 1200 words in the article. This article will be there forever.
How can we validate this?
This is the beauty of knowing what you buy.
Regarding the question of if this behaviour is normal in the PBN industry - I'd say no, not in the majority of cases.
I think it depends on the seller and the buyer. There are some sellers that are much more cautious about this topic, specially the old ones, that have gone through PBN-wars. Generally speaking 99% of those PBN sellers are just selling Guest Posts calling them PBN posts which is unreal, this is why most don't simply care about this. Others may simply offer you information depending if they know you or if you are simply a random guy in the forum that cannot trust. But most real PBN are really cautious about this topic. But as you say, if you have full control of your GSC with some tools, you will unmask this info in a matter of weeks (unless the PBN is utterly shit and it doesn't even index)
 
I think it depends on the seller and the buyer. There are some sellers that are much more cautious about this topic, specially the old ones, that have gone through PBN-wars. Generally speaking 99% of those PBN sellers are just selling Guest Posts calling them PBN posts which is unreal, this is why most don't simply care about this. Others may simply offer you information depending if they know you or if you are simply a random guy in the forum that cannot trust. But most real PBN are really cautious about this topic. But as you say, if you have full control of your GSC with some tools, you will unmask this info in a matter of weeks (unless the PBN is utterly shit and it doesn't even index)
Yeah, maybe I should have said - Regarding the question of if this behaviour is normal with services that identify as PBN providers - I'd say no, not in the majority of cases. :D
 
It's a double-edged sword. A PBN that does not give the full urls of your bought links is living up to the 'Private' part of 'Private Blog Network', which means that it's harder for example for a bad actor to sign up, buy a few links and then immediately report the domains those links appear on. But like you said, you have no immediate validation that what you've paid for actually exists.

You should be able to validate that your links have been placed by keeping an eye on your backlink reports, both in GSC and via various tools like Ahrefs. As the link you're buying is being advertised via TF, which is a Majestic metric, then that should mean that at least Majestic's backlink reports will be reporting it.

Regarding the question of if this behaviour is normal in the PBN industry - I'd say no, not in the majority of cases.

Thanks for reply, another point interesting is, they also state:
No, to keep our PBN private we block all bots/crawler/spider from our network. Only Google bots are allowed.

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So, i was wondering even they can provide a domain, if yes, I can use Google to validate, but as long as they offer / report nothing, it makes everything hidden behind the scene of what we wanted to pay.
 
This is the beauty of knowing what you buy.

I think it depends on the seller and the buyer. There are some sellers that are much more cautious about this topic, specially the old ones, that have gone through PBN-wars. Generally speaking 99% of those PBN sellers are just selling Guest Posts calling them PBN posts which is unreal, this is why most don't simply care about this. Others may simply offer you information depending if they know you or if you are simply a random guy in the forum that cannot trust. But most real PBN are really cautious about this topic. But as you say, if you have full control of your GSC with some tools, you will unmask this info in a matter of weeks (unless the PBN is utterly shit and it doesn't even index)

but then how buyer know the backlinks is real and positively affect the SEO?
 
but then how buyer know the backlinks is real and positively affect the SEO?
They may pop into your GSC as I said, if you have massive control of your GSC (which you should have), you will discover those links. If they never pop, then you will understand that the work done is completely shitty

If the seller doesn't rely on you to give you the report + links don't pop on GSC, you will don't really have a way to identify the quality of the work. But personally, if they don't ultimately pop, the quality = 0.

The problem with linkbuilding in general, is that you cannot go inside that world with specific expectations, it's like a hit & miss world. And it's really difficult to spot and claim a scam. So definitely budgets on this topic go away like mad. Only experience, and trustworthyness are relevant here (not even reputation)
 
If they allow google bot, it will appear in your search console. Buy 1 link, track the SERP changes, investigate the domain once it appears in your GSC.
 
A good SEO seller will give you real domains. You can check their authenticity by looking at the content, checking the spam score and DA
 
They may pop into your GSC as I said, if you have massive control of your GSC (which you should have), you will discover those links. If they never pop, then you will understand that the work done is completely shitty

If the seller doesn't rely on you to give you the report + links don't pop on GSC, you will don't really have a way to identify the quality of the work. But personally, if they don't ultimately pop, the quality = 0.

The problem with linkbuilding in general, is that you cannot go inside that world with specific expectations, it's like a hit & miss world. And it's really difficult to spot and claim a scam. So definitely budgets on this topic go away like mad. Only experience, and trustworthyness are relevant here (not even reputation)
very reasonable, if the quality of backlink & referring domain are good enough, they backlink should visible in GSC / BWT.
Thank you for all your inputs!
 
Hi there,

we just wanted to involve the paid post in PBN to trigger our SEO effort (before, we only do on-page SEO and backlinks ourselves).
Since this is our first time to do this, I have a question that hopefully to get your professional idea.

We found a vendor looks good (and not cheap), however, after browsing their website and talking with them, it seems we won't get a detail info about what we paid.
Following statement is in their website, it seems to me that we cannot know what article is published, on where, and how long the post (blog) lasts. - Though they "guarantee in the service statement".

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May I ask:
is this normal in the paid backlinks (blog post) industry? If yes, how to know whether we get what we paid?
e.g. paid $60, and we are told: OK, an article has been published in a domain in TF 45, 1200 words in the article. This article will be there forever.
How can we validate this?

Your input is appreciated.
JD
Many sellers in the BHW marketplace section providing detailed reports with published URLs, try with them.
 
You can try to find the post in the Google SERPS by searching your anchor text in quotes and using time range filter. Or wait for the link to pop up in Google Search Console. Or if you requested they use your brand name you can search that in Google with time range filter.
 
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