Oversaturation doesn't kill methods, STUPIDITY does!

The WWW is a HUGE place, and realistically, methods you find on BHW could be used over and over by multiple people, WITHOUT over-saturation. What kills the methods in most cases, is stupidity of people. How successful do you think a method can be, if 1000 people here on BHW implement it, without changing one wording or a method you find. I mean, find a method, and use it word for word, without putting in ONE twist to the method. Just this week I stumbled upon a method involving a WSO, and a few training videos. I could see by the views on the youtube video outlining the method, it had not been over-saturated, it had about 500 views. I went step through step, and found multiple people using the method AD VERBATIM on a site, without any success. How the hell do you think you will be successful if you are on a site, posting WORD FOR WORD, what a half dozen other people are flogging?

I put a FEW twists on the method, used the method on OTHER sites rather than the site suggested in the videos, and am already in the process of closing a few deals that will net me over $16k. (Don't ask for proof or screenshots, the older I get, the less I feel the need to prove myself).

One thing I am into is autoblogging. It's pathetic to see one of my blogs get 20 posts in a day from someone using Scrapebox who doesn't even have brains enough to check if their link is correct, or try spinning their comments so they're readable. They sometimes look like they were written by a retarded one armed chimp. Do you REALLY think those comments will be approved? Do you REALLY think you WON'T eventually be labeled as a spammer, and blacklisted? C'mon people!

I have been IMing probably longer then some of you have been alive. I have had MANY failures, and some successes. The failures came from STUPIDITY, and the successes came from imagination. The IM business truly CAN be a get rich scheme, but it won't be using methods right out of the box. I don't suggest thinking OUTSIDE the box, I suggest building a NEW box, climbing inside, and keeping it a secret to yourself. In the next week or 2 I hope to be joining the Jr. VIP section where I can share ideas, and ROUGHLY share methods with people who are SERIOUS about IM, and not just some fly by IMers looking to make a quick fortune from someone else's method, without putting their OWN thoughts into it.

I guess I just needed to rant, here's to all of you and your successes AND your failures (hopefully those are far and few between).

Amen to that...I haven't found a method yet that can't generate some income with a twist or two. Nor have I found a method that can't be twisted and changed somehow.

True true true

Dude, 99% of all people will give up any method that requires work within weeks and go looking for something else. I tried a method I posted about 2 years ago and nobody is doing it. Not a single person. It still works yet people were crying about it becoming oversaturated when I first posted about it.

mightybh said:

Dude, 99% of all people will give up any method that requires work within weeks and go looking for something else. I tried a method I posted about 2 years ago and nobody is doing it. Not a single person. It still works yet people were crying about it becoming oversaturated when I first posted about it.

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pm me that method, ill take the time out to do it

mightybh said:

Dude, 99% of all people will give up any method that requires work within weeks and go looking for something else. I tried a method I posted about 2 years ago and nobody is doing it. Not a single person. It still works yet people were crying about it becoming oversaturated when I first posted about it.

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Really ??? man thats inspiring me I have bunch of wso's residing in my disk and am just thinking that they are saturated now

I agree completely. Almost every WSO can still be used to make money in some way if you just make the method original to you. Too often people want to know how to pick CB products or niches.

The best way is to do it YOUR way. No one else can do it just like you. And maybe one idea doesn't work so you find another.

thanks for the thread very inspiring.

Very well said. I can confirm that with my own experience. All methods, where I tried to do the same as guide says I failed and in all methods, where I did everything my own way I was successful. I have learned this lesson long time ago and it helps me a lot.

Well said mate. You need to be innovative with your tactics. Following others may not always lead you to success. If you have resources, then you can sell them on DP or other forums to make extra bucks.

People need to learn to diversify that is all. And stop thinking about the work and just do it.

I don't completely agree. People start to talk about methods, they get hyped up, people use them a lot, some guy at Google hears about the method and next day there's a filter for it. Then again, if people would have some imagination they could use any "expired" method in a novel way and still make it work. I do the same rehashed shit for building links but I have my own way of doing it and works like a charm. Then, I fucking understand why I do something and why it works. I take the why and ask myself "how do I obtain X at maximum effect" and came up with stuff that would scare the shit out of Google's anti-spam team and 99.999% of the IM people vouldn't even get it. Like if some guy would explain you how a black hole interacts with itself in another parallel universe that is actually an infinity of universes that now happens to be just one. They'd be like "wtf?!". I actually told some methods to some buddies in IM to help them out. Methods that would work wonders in their markets. One discussion went:
He: you crazy? a year of work before I even start launching and $10k investment? that's a lot of work and money
Me: yeah but you dominate the whole market after that. you become an online monopoly.
He: it's a fking year...
Me: never-mind...

And that's a really skilled guy who understands SEO

mightybh said:

Dude, 99% of all people will give up any method that requires work within weeks and go looking for something else.

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This is absolutely true! As MightyBH says, the vast majority of the muppets out there who blindly copy-and-paste methods will fall by the wayside very quickly. Techniques can temporarily reach saturation point whenever a new buzz product comes on the market... but within a couple of months after the hype dies down, the sheep grow frustrated with their lack of progress and move onto something else.

At a fundamental level, MOST methods (even the dodgiest old WSOs) have at their centre a kernel of truth which often has the potential to generate long-term profits, if only people apply a bit of imagination.


(Incidentally, speaking of "dodgy old WSOs", that thing you're touting in your sig file looks rather intriguing, MightyBH. . . If only I hadn't taken a solemn vow never to set foot in that accursed Forum ever again!)

A tip I use: Go 50-70-200 pages into the money making section here, I find methods that have been "oversaturated", and can be brought back to life, because the slackers gave up on it months ago.

And let me just do a quick add, If you really want to make $$ and think you can't make a unique method, Combine methods.

maineyak said:

A tip I use: Go 50-70-200 pages into the money making section here, I find methods that have been "oversaturated", and can be brought back to life, because the slackers gave up on it months ago.

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Splendid suggestion. Just make sure when you FIND such a method buried in the archives, you don't mess it up for yourself by posting comments on it and bringing it right back into public view! Otherwise the noobs will re-saturate it and we're back to square one!

Many people will just look at a method, see that it takes work, and give up.

I mean, really?! Every method is going to take work. Nothing is free. Some might take more than others, but if you are persistent and as the OP outlined, NOT STUPID, you can make anything work. Even if every single little method were to be saturated, there'd always be a twist you can put on it. Some twists make a huge difference, such as Facebook.

Facebook superseded Myspace only because it twisted the current social networking environment into a whole new world, one without the ridiculous looks, ads, and tandems that Myspace created. Almost a billion users later, we can see how important twists are.

Twists are what make the difference.

maineyak said:

A tip I use: Go 50-70-200 pages into the money making section here, I find methods that have been "oversaturated", and can be brought back to life, because the slackers gave up on it months ago.

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This is what I also did when I was struggling to earn some bucks

Every method can make SOMETHING, but WHAT it makes depends on what YOU do with it.

or better yet.
An "inside the outside of the box"
goto the very last page of the MMS
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f12-making-money/index350.html

use the methods there but put a twist on them.

They where over saturated ... at one point, but eventually when the hype dies down and the mass stops killing the method with idiotic ways, the method is now un-saturated. Lol.

May work, may not, worth a shot.

Well said, creativity is a huge part of succeeding online. Just like with offline business, you gotta be unique and do things in a different way to make it big. I remember using methods back in 2007 where everyone said were saturated. Funny thing is those so called "saturated" methods made my first few hundred $ online to get me where I am today. Always try putting your own twists on things and making them work your way.

Very Inspiring will try to build a new box ....