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ORM Prices (ballpark)

Discussion in 'Online Reputation Management (ORM)' started by evergreenman, Apr 1, 2015.

  1. evergreenman

    evergreenman Newbie

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    Just wondering how much everyone here is charging for services for suppression, de-indexation, etc? Does it depend on the client? How much do you charge per de-indexed URLs off sites such as Ripoff Report, etc?

    I was thinking 2K per de-indexed links from the scam sites. Am I out of my mind for charging this amount?
     
  2. phracktl

    phracktl Regular Member

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    You're not out of your mind :)
    There is no such thing as price - thats why we all ask what to charge

    My process: I dont set pricing, and don't sell a shrink wrapped service but only go for high value contracts that I can close in person with a decision maker (i'd rather 5 clients at $xx,xxx than 50 at $x,xxx )

    I charge on value, not "cost + x". Don't commodify yourself/work at higher price points.

    The prospect wont tell you a figure of what its worth to them, or what they can afford.
    ***Thats for you to filter down when qualifying leads, and to explore in the sales conversation***

    When negotiating always leave slack for yourself while always still offering value to the prospect.

    After handling all their objections, when you've both seen that theres no reason they shouldn't just buy it now, prospects reach for price as the final hurdle to a deal.
    By then its typically the only ammunition they have. They're powerless. They don't like that.

    So be reasonable, work with them & give them choices...adjust the levers of campaign scope/time/resources
    i.e. for $x we can do 'that'; for $x-y, then you would get great value form 'that - this'

    Reinforce your pricing by revisiting the needs/objections you both explored before entering the pricing conversation.
    Explain that you incur business costs to actually execute the work. Youre not being greedy. Its not money for old rope, but valuable outcomes achieved by execution thats informed by solid experience, skill and professional campaign management.

    Have a price point where you will say no and move on to the next

    If they wont commit, ask if its a not now, or a not ever
    If not now, establish next steps to keep in touch (book another meeting).
    You could maybe have a low-priced entry offer (I don't do this)
    If I feel lie Im getting the truth out of the meeting (rather than flim-flam that just avoids a decision) I'll give them just enough info to start addressing the core issue in house. It's not long before they come back asking to be rid of the hassle.

    If you feel theyre not going to commit, get them to verbally say No and move on - but leave your door open for them.

    But qualify prospects well, whatever you do. It helps you enter the sales meeting with similar assumptions both sides.

    hope it helps
     
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  3. katherinepage

    katherinepage Newbie

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    It totally depend on negative links appearing on which website(whether website has high authority which make it difficult to rank easily) or at which position in search results.
     
  4. BHopkins

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    I don't think that's out of the realm of a good price point if you can get it deindexed. The problem is that if you only get something deindexed, they could end up with a different negative tomorrow. This snowball might never stop rolling down the hill.
     
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  5. Everz

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    I agree. I haven't seen a real good method to deindex links reliably anyway, especially from an authority site like a major review site or a major media outlet.

    Are you saying that you've been successful with this in some form in the past?

    Suppression is just a process of out juicing the negatives and that's pretty cut and dry for the most part.
     
  6. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I've seen a couple of clients get negatives removed (not deindexed) which leads to deindexing in the subsequent weeks. I've seen a lot more pay thousands of dollars in legal fees and not be able to get the negatives removed.
     
  7. Everz

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    I get stuff removed all the time simply by filing a generic C and D. Most don't want to deal with the headache or potential risk and find it more easy to just remove stuff.

    I still wonder if deindexing "using bad SEO" actually works? Some people think it does but my understanding of Google's algorithm suggests it wouldn't. I've raised this topic elsewhere in fact previously on one of the BH link building tools but no one seems to know for sure either way.

    I call it cyber warfare or marketing warfare. Would be interesting to know if by adding junk links you can actually devalue and penalize the established authority juice that was already in place for any particular URL.
     
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  8. comancsm

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    Hi evergreenman, i'm looking for somebody to help me deindex one forum thread without any legal issues. Is that possible?
     
  9. Everz

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    Why don't you first try sending a C and D to the forum? Is it based in the United States? PM me, I can try to help you a little bit with some first steps. Taking SEO steps for a single thread should be a last resort.
     
  10. goldendeli

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    I was quoted anywhere from $4,500 a month to over $20,000 for a client I'm doing work for. Absolutely ridiculous considering there are no guarantees for that.

    Negative SEO'ng your ripoffreport is only gonna make it stronger, I have ample examples of this with other guys I came across doing the same. Not sure if they were trying to negative SEO or simply blast it to the top but it's clear that if you don't know what you are doing buying a few fiverr packages will only make things worse.
     
  11. BHopkins

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    What's ridiculous about that pricing? There are companies charging $300k per year for individuals with high profiles and a high net worth. For people like that $300k for a clean reputation is affordable and makes sense. $4500 for a smaller client looking for a new job which is being hindered by an ORM issue makes sense as well.

    I totally agree with negative SEO making things worse.
     
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