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opinion about fake followers

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by airwolf137, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. airwolf137

    airwolf137 Junior Member

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    hi
    i want to know that for SMM campaingns , is it important to get some fake followers as a social proof.
    I started with some brand new accounts but i am not able to get good follow back on twitter and instagram
     
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    chugcore Registered Member

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    It is always always always better to have organic followers. No question. It takes time but you're going to get more interaction and reach through organic sources. Fake followers are just a number.
     
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    Instagram is fighting fake followers, using fake followers will grow your number of followers but will also kill your engagement.
    Instagram sees your posts as trash if you got a massive amount of followers that don't interact with your posts(fake followers).
    I learned it the hard way sadly.
     
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    In my opinion it's really important in the beginning of growing accounts , people tend to follow accounts with large followers number
     
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    which bot are you using for it?
     
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    yes but for new accounts it becomes a long story
    yeah 100% correct but i guess we can buy likes on pictures as well
     
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    Fake followers are for fake people simple & plain.

    Remember this and you will go long way in world.
     
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    I'm using massplanner and buying followers from SMM panels ,they are 90% real not fake especially turkish ones
     
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    There's a lot of ignorance when it comes to buying fake followers. Most people complain that they don't engage with you or increase your business, but that's not what they are for. No one wants to follow an account which has 100 followers but will happily follow the same account if it has 1000 followers. I only recommend buying followers when your account is new so you can influence real people to follow you and then use something like Mass Planner to boost your growth.
     
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    It is well known that Social Media is the best platform to promote any Product, Services, Brand, People etc... Obviously, Due to fake followers you can get a good number of followers but it will not be fruitful, instead of spending your bucks to getting fake followers spend on appropriate design and content, maximum 80-100 words for a single post including one image or fill content in that particular design, and post it in related groups and pages.
     
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    On this website I'm trying to find out good SEO service for my project. But may be i can help you with followers for instagram. My project is tool for native followers attraction. No fakes, no bots, only real people who really had seen you media and decided to follow you. With this technique you will take only people who interested in your business / products / services / content. This tool can be used for almost empty accounts, created at least month ago.

    I can give you all features of my service for free for three months. No links here, it is not advertising :)
     
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    We shouldn't forget that every Account/Brand started with a big zero followers. "True is always true & Fake will be always fake".

     
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    @Instafly, could you please give a brief description about your Tool and Services, Use My message box for it.
    Thanks
     
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    There's really no harm in buying 1000 followers to give your account a push in the right direction and then never buying them again. Your account could go on to having over 100k followers because you gave it a little boost when it was new. Hardly think that is fake.
     
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    How can i use message box? On your profile i don't see any buttons for send message.
     
  16. Darc

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    Are there fake follower methods such as programs or a series of automated, programs, hidden bots, that can actually interact and trick the system?

    That appear to come from multiple places, randomize and cover footprints and traces, fooling the system.

    Maybe click things and post, generate fake accounts, that auto updates content, and post to your account and others strategically, maybe back-dated accounts?

    An automated system?

    Maybe with bots? Could this be done? Forgive me my ignorance, but I am new to all this.

    There has to be an adaptive way to trick the site and keep updating the program.

    No system is unbeatable. It is not logical. Yet I could be wrong, if so, I want to learn, that is what I am here for, please enlighten me.

    There has to be counters for any safeguards. That might even be an integrated follower service like this, somewhere.

    There would be a myriad of other benefits to this as well with face book. Maybe its just a simple matter of modfying and connecting methods programs and bot armies for a follower system.
     
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    @Darc There are a lot of solutions for followers attracting and instagram promotion. Fake bots is fake follower and may attract only fake sales :)

    About automation (no bots but human like AI). My service, as example, connecting to promoted account like new device (i.g: your new smartphone). When it connected it starts activity in the instagram - search people who may be interested by your account and interact with them. Interact mean - like some photos, send "follow", comment photos or send direct message. When people see this activity feed he will get notice about "@Darc is followed you". Then this people may look at you account and follow you if it interest. If it no interest - it is problem of targeting.

    As example from my practice - some company working in interior design (as example bwhdesign :) ). This company has account in instagram (@bwhdesign) with superb photos from portfolio. But only few dozens of followers. Then this company connected to my system and my robots starting work. Robot scan few dozens of competitors (another interior design companies from same city) and retrieve all people who asking about price / qualite / time for presented portfolio examples. This scan is working every day, cause new people asking about it on the competitors pages in instagram. For all this asking people my robot send likes, direct messages, follows and comments. These people is very targeted audithory, cause asking about service (price, quality, guatrantee). After that we get crazy conversion rate. Real crazy conversion rate cause we use this method - people who asking about price is very hot lead. And we have not costs for traffic buying - competitors do it :) They bought traffic to his instagram accounts and we use this for our goals :)
     
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    Tell me more about your bots and service as well as any traffic driving bots, not fake traffic but redirects, in applications, through email.

    Any and all viable black hat methods. I am interested in social media, traffic redirect, web crawling bot armies and all viable black hat methods including programs in free apps, mentioned in the fine print.

    None of this should leave traces or hurt site ranking, blacklist or effect seo. probably a series of automated connected programs and services would be best.

    I am researching now to build a complex system. I am also trying to understand how to move the flaws in some systems/programs with secondary programs services and bypasses, vpns are just the obvious.

    Like forum poster traffic devices, extractors and senders. How to foil spam filters with legal phishing multi-adaptive programs, legal by giving a opt out option. Direct traffic but some masking.

    A system that would target those least likely to be bothered by this but are not over spammed. Buyers who are nuts about the niche. Smart auto responders and simple ai systems to keep people on site for adsense. Proper affiliate networks ''without getting banned semi-automated freelance services/partnerships. I'm learning.

    That said the main product is viable honest and something I believe in, that satisfies a need, and solves a problem.

    I am honest but pragmatic.

    Some might say I have an interesting set of morals, but I would never cheat my customers, they get what they pay for, and often more such as in my mail order projects.

    Will I cut corners with a system set up against you from the go? Use legal exploits? You bet.

    You have to think smart and take the direct path, or employ bypass and tricks if needed and be smart enough to keep adapting, when things change and making them technically legal.

    Otherwise, you will be mediocre from a starting point of view, or have little success at all. It takes hard work dedication, even machine like tenacity and going beyond the limit of what any normal person would do to even compete without the same resources.

    Hard work is not enough you also need cunning, creativity pragmatism and guts.

    That goes for most things in life...that and a willingness to learn. I have these things.
     
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