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One-Page submits / iFrame

Discussion in 'CPA' started by wkrappen91, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. wkrappen91

    wkrappen91 Power Member

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    I got a question regarding those 1page / email submits.
    If i Iframe my site, and people enter their email addresses (will wash it down with junk traffic), but none will convert for sh*t because after the email is submittet, i simply close the iframe... Will the network get suspicious if lets say 50 out of 1000 people who view the site submit their email, but 0 will acually do anything else?
    Thanks in advance
    ps. ofcourse i will fake the ref with CPA-R...
     
  2. Whisker

    Whisker Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    Won't last long doing that considering advertisers monitor the performance of your traffic on the backend. Aff id gets passed along and advertisers see zero conversions on their sponsor offers, tells network and you get flagged for shit quality.
     
  3. wkrappen91

    wkrappen91 Power Member

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    How to get around that, without going to white?
    Rotate offers? (but still, 50 offers with 0 conversions better than 1 with 0?)
     
  4. MikeHustle

    MikeHustle Power Member

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    Rotate as many offers as possible on different networks, and realize that they catch on fast.
     
  5. amberlamps

    amberlamps BANNED BANNED

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    only proven way to get away with it is to, roate and mix in white hat along say you get around 30 WH leads you can mix that in with like 50 white hat leads, and say you getting 1.5 a pop that what like 120 a day and i say that good enough for a day off bullshittinhg
     
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    if they think you're giving them poor quality on purpose, not only will they not pay, but you'll probably get banned. It would be a shame to think you have a check for a few hundred or even thousand leads and wind up not getting paid for any of it.
     
  7. ExtraWinner

    ExtraWinner BANNED BANNED

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    Mix your ads with some WH leads from adwords. This will help you stay under the radar. You need to be smart about it as well... So rotate as much as you can :)
     
  8. wkrappen91

    wkrappen91 Power Member

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    Good thing i got approved by 3 networks over night (only one called me, i was still asleep, so they woke me up and i talked to them while sleeping kindof:D they still approved me...)
    Im just going to try with the one i like least.
     
  9. meannn

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    Sorry for bump, how is it going ? I am in the same road, too. I am doing well ;)
     
  10. Jaykub

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    how many leads are white hat and how many of them blackhat? got paid? how much do you make per day?

    i hope i dont ask too much :) i'm just curious and willing to learn..
     
  11. Jaykub

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    by the way: what exactly is defined as a white hat lead? leads which converts at the back end for the advertiser, right? that means that someone enters his email because he likes the offer and after some time the user will get an email from the cpa offer creator with product bla...

    what is the thing after the 1st page email submits? after that there is the 2nd form (which is not necessary to fill out in order to get paid) with name, adresse etc. is a white hat lead also considered a FULL fill out of all forms after the email submit???

    to sum up - my question is: what is defined as a white hat lead...
    a) when someone enters on the first page his email and this email 'converts' for the advertiser at the back end
    b) when someone enters the email and ALSO fills out the other forms after the first page with all the information like name, last name, adresse etc.

    would be great if someone could give us insights to this...
     
  12. meannn

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    Whitehat leads = Leads which are promoted in whitehat way (ppc, email etc.). This way, your 2nd page leads may be filled also.

    In addition, if you're promoting with blackhat way (iframe), you won't have 2nd page submits and this will be annoying for the advertiser and your network.
     
  13. Jaykub

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    okay, interesting. do the user have to pay for something if they also fill the second page of an email submit offer?

    does anyone have stats how it should probably look like...lets say if you have 200 white hat leads each day, how many of them also fill out the second page etc..would be great to reconstruct these info..
     
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    It IS possible to iFrame the second page of an offer as well.
     
  15. SEO20

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    Here we go again.

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    2 solutions:

    - If you iframe email submit, you have to use this technique very slowly and mixted with WH trafic which can convert. So your AM will see some conversions (but your quality rate will be lower).

    - Use a content locker like content locker pro. With this one, you are able to display the second page. So you can have some conversions even with BH trafic.
     
  17. G-S-T

    G-S-T Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Im setting this up now. Has anyone come by any serious black holes to avoid? Or any advice on offers that took the most "shit" traffic without pulling the offer.

    I'm going to throw in a load of white offers too so this should last a while.