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One More F$%#@ Scammer

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by marrrko, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. marrrko

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    Ok guys this is my first shit list thread and hope it will be the last.
    Want to present one more scammer here, nickname "richman"

    As all you can see this is his thread:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...w-facebook-like-jacking-wordpress-plugin.html

    where he trying to sell various CJ scripts.


    This is his site where he clearly wrote his BHW nickname:
    http://nextplugin.com/

    As you can see at the bottom of his sales thread you can clearly see link to his site:

    [​IMG]


    So recently this guy "richman" has some new scripts package, where i can get for 6 scripts + full access to some mastermind group etc for $499.

    You can check it here (at the top of this picture you can clearly see logo of next plugin site, so it's the same guy)
    [​IMG]


    After i paid and waited for almost a week i contacted him to check what is going on, and when i can get my products. I got answer similar to this one "this scripts not exists yet, and i will have to wait god knows how long until i get it"

    So i said ok i don't want to wait please refund me my money. It's passed 2 weeks and i got nothing, i tried to contact him and got few responds where he said something about blocked PP.

    After almost 3 weeks (today) i sent few PM to "richman" and it was like this:




    Hy man,
    Do not ever attack me, I've never make a deal with you in our paypal.

    Please to contact them via email at dk_bhmg@yahoo.com
    I also never force you to buy their products.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marrrko
    You think i am fucking idiot?

    Why after i contacted you your post is no longer available?
    You delete it that's why!!
    http://forum.nextplugin.com/index.php?topic=175.0


    Anyway here is a deal.
    I will give you 6 hours more to send me refund...if not I will contact mods here and post all around about you and what u have done...and then u can explain them that you are renting your signature and posts for scamers..
    That means that all you post on this forum can be rent and can be scam!


    Also i have all necessary evidence that you are behind this, so please stop to play around with me and tell me when you can refund me my money??


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by richman
    Hy man,
    Actually its not mine, Im not the owner nextplugin forum.

    someone had contacted me to post and rent my signature.

    You can contact Them at dk_bhmg@yahoo.com
    I hope he will answer you as soon as possible
    I think he is a good guys..



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marrrko
    I don't want to destroy your reputation on BHW because you can make more sales here and make more money than $499, but i will do that and will put you on a shit list. Will tell anyone that you are a scammer and there is no product like you advertise on your site.

    http://forum.nextplugin.com/index.php?topic=175.0



    We are waited a long for you and your answers but still nothing. Dispute is open and if PP decide to leave money to you and you don't send me my money back, your career on BHW and other forums (if i see you) is over.



    It's your call and your decision. Will wait you next 2-3 days to give me some answer or i will put you on shit list.

    So as you can see so many lies are here, he is not an owner someone is contact him for his banner??? Few minutes after i contacted him he removed his post.
    Didn't get any answer on this one? Why he removed it, if everything is clear?

    Ok anyway i sent email here:
    dk_bhmg@yahoo.com
    just to be sure what i will get, what kind of answers, new lies and guess what, skype has only 8 contacts and it's totally different of first one i already chat.

    All in all here is our conversation:

    [9/22/11 4:45:14 PM] marko velickovic: let me know when you are online
    [9/22/11 4:47:16 PM] Dika: hi
    [9/22/11 4:47:20 PM] Dika: how are u
    [9/22/11 4:47:56 PM] marko velickovic: hi not so good.. paid and contact you few times.. but still didn't get money back or product
    [9/22/11 4:48:08 PM] Dika: what product
    [9/22/11 4:48:13 PM] marko velickovic: i am talikng about this
    [9/22/11 4:48:13 PM] marko velickovic: http://nextplugin.com/screenshot/mastermind.gif
    [9/22/11 4:48:15 PM] Dika: cookies stuffing script
    [9/22/11 4:48:16 PM] Dika: ?
    [9/22/11 4:48:35 PM] Dika: its closed
    [9/22/11 4:48:37 PM] Dika: are you member ?
    [9/22/11 4:48:57 PM] marko velickovic: it's closed today whan i contacted "richman"
    [9/22/11 4:49:01 PM] marko velickovic: before that it was open
    [9/22/11 4:49:10 PM] marko velickovic: tell me are you owner of next plugin?
    [9/22/11 4:49:24 PM] marko velickovic: so yesterday it was open
    [9/22/11 4:49:31 PM] marko velickovic: here is something fishy
    [9/22/11 4:49:44 PM] Dika: Lol.. its closed last week
    [9/22/11 4:49:50 PM] marko velickovic: no it;s not...
    [9/22/11 4:50:08 PM] marko velickovic: anyway.. i don't care when it's closed.. i didn't get prodiuct and money back
    [9/22/11 4:50:08 PM] Dika: did you mean, you paid and never receive the mastermind password from tom nextplugin ?
    [9/22/11 4:50:15 PM] marko velickovic: exaclty
    [9/22/11 4:50:20 PM] Dika: Lol
    [9/22/11 4:50:22 PM] marko velickovic: didn't get any product nothing
    [9/22/11 4:50:25 PM] Dika: why you do not contact me
    [9/22/11 4:50:45 PM] marko velickovic: my friend contact you.. because i was out of the town but he didn't get any respond
    [9/22/11 4:51:04 PM] Dika: use my personal email dkbhmg@yahoo.com
    [9/22/11 4:51:16 PM] marko velickovic: tell me do you have that products?
    [9/22/11 4:51:41 PM] Dika: yes, why you do not request password to tom
    [9/22/11 4:51:56 PM] Dika: do you have nextplugin password
    [9/22/11 4:52:03 PM] marko velickovic: i did but it wasn't any answer there
    [9/22/11 4:52:26 PM] marko velickovic: i also purchase before FB script.. and thought to purchase this package for 499
    [9/22/11 4:52:32 PM] Dika: ok
    [9/22/11 4:52:38 PM] Dika: tell me what is your username
    [9/22/11 4:53:15 PM] marko velickovic: but it passed 3 weeks and i got nothing.. except explanation that this package doesen;t exist
    [9/22/11 4:53:48 PM] marko velickovic: so if product doesen't exist i really need refund
    [9/22/11 4:53:48 PM] Dika: lol... mastermind is on skype confrence
    [9/22/11 4:55:25 PM] marko velickovic: anyway i wanted to give it a shoot.. but no one replay to me.. no one take care of my order... and last tom email was that this product doesen't exist
    [9/22/11 4:55:27 PM] Dika: its the important factor to get work on it
    [9/22/11 4:55:43 PM] Dika: its exist bro
    [9/22/11 4:56:09 PM] Dika: but, one of blackhat admin is try to attact us
    [9/22/11 4:56:17 PM] Dika: brad from wpbh
    [9/22/11 4:56:31 PM] marko velickovic: ok that's your problem.. i want my money back..
    [9/22/11 4:56:45 PM] marko velickovic: i am not satisfied client i want my money.. it's very simple
    [9/22/11 4:56:51 PM] marko velickovic: refund me and we are good
    [9/22/11 4:57:10 PM] Dika: sure, actually we are on refund progress
    [9/22/11 4:57:27 PM] Dika: but, after brad, tell their member to make refund, paypal is block my account
    [9/22/11 4:58:32 PM] Dika: paypal ask me the many many requirements
    [9/22/11 4:58:47 PM] Dika: i think brad is not fair person
    [9/22/11 4:59:15 PM] Dika: he was afraid at compete
    [9/22/11 4:59:28 PM] Dika: ok, tell me what is your username at nextplugin
    [9/22/11 5:01:05 PM] marko velickovic: this takes to long over 2 weeks since i hear this story about blocked PP..

    anyway i don't know my username.. and it's not importnat.. you have on your email my transaction ID and all other informations for refund...
    [9/22/11 5:02:19 PM] Dika: ok, do not worry, I did not run, but I have a problem with paypal, I promised to process them after my affair with paypal is fine
    [9/22/11 5:03:10 PM] marko velickovic: i am a bit worry.. your skype id has 8 contact, i waiting for you over 2 weeks to refiiund me my money.. and sudenlly after i contact you on BHW you are answering me..
    [9/22/11 5:03:17 PM] marko velickovic: i telling you one more time
    [9/22/11 5:03:19 PM] marko velickovic: refund me my money
    [9/22/11 5:03:33 PM] marko velickovic: i don't give a fuck
    [9/22/11 5:03:50 PM] marko velickovic: if not like i sent you PM on BHW i will do that right now
    [9/22/11 5:04:14 PM] marko velickovic: so i am in this business over 10 years and i know when someone trying to scam me
    [9/22/11 5:04:26 PM] Dika: the time we get into our forums, while you discuss blackhat techniques, so the problem with paypal is completed, I will immediately return the money
    [9/22/11 5:04:45 PM] marko velickovic: ok do that.. thanks
    [9/22/11 5:04:48 PM] marko velickovic: will wait here
    [9/22/11 5:06:23 PM] Dika: I have nothing to do with bhw, and I've never sold it in bhw, please contact them if you really need ..
    [9/22/11 5:06:47 PM] marko velickovic: ok ok you know about what i am talking here.. i just need my money and we are cool
    [9/22/11 5:07:45 PM] Dika: Do not accuse me as a scammer, I've explained to you that I have a problem with paypal
    [9/22/11 5:08:01 PM] marko velickovic: ok no problem waiting for my refund
    [9/22/11 5:08:37 PM] marko velickovic: if you need it here it is one more time
    [9/22/11 5:08:38 PM] marko velickovic: Web Accept Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3YM04351XB031694A)
    [9/22/11 1:14:03 PM] Nikola Jankovic: Name:
    Gideon Harmawan (The recipient of this payment is Non-US - Verified)
    Email:
    dioxnoid@yahoo.com
    [9/22/11 1:14:07 PM] Nikola Jankovic: Total amount:
    -$499.00 USD
    [9/22/11 1:14:14 PM] Nikola Jankovic: Item Title:
    NextPlugin Mastermind GROUP
    [9/22/11 5:09:11 PM] Dika: ok
    [9/22/11 5:09:22 PM] Dika: I provide solutions, for a while, you can go to the nextpluginforum, waiting for me with the paypal process is complete
    [9/22/11 5:09:57 PM] Dika: I think this is pretty fair
    [9/22/11 5:10:16 PM] marko velickovic: what's that?
    [9/22/11 5:10:26 PM] marko velickovic: you said you fixed you PP?
    [9/22/11 5:10:52 PM] Dika: I have been sending data to paypal
    [9/22/11 5:10:59 PM] marko velickovic: what data?
    [9/22/11 5:11:08 PM] Dika: they are still processing it ...
    [9/22/11 5:11:17 PM] marko velickovic: you said 3 minutes ago you will give me my money right now
    [9/22/11 5:11:50 PM] Dika: lol
    [9/22/11 5:12:09 PM] marko velickovic: what LOL? where is my money?
    [9/22/11 5:13:39 PM] marko velickovic: so???
    [9/22/11 5:14:32 PM] Dika: I still attempt to negotiate with paypal to unlock the block on my account
    [9/22/11 5:14:56 PM] marko velickovic: ok show me
    [9/22/11 5:14:57 PM] Dika: they ensure that within one week will be completed
    [9/22/11 5:15:04 PM] marko velickovic: make a screen shot
    [9/22/11 5:15:27 PM] Dika: sure
    [9/22/11 5:15:28 PM] Dika: wait
    [9/22/11 5:17:18 PM] marko velickovic: ok listen.. i just heard from my partner that you told m=him the same 2-3 weeks ago the same
    [9/22/11 5:17:41 PM] marko velickovic: so i am going to make a shit list now on you "richman" and that's it
    [9/22/11 5:17:51 PM] marko velickovic: give me my mony back now or you will be banned
    [9/22/11 5:18:02 PM] marko velickovic: giving you 5 minutes to make a choice
    [9/22/11 5:18:41 PM] Dika sent file "pp.jpg"
    [9/22/11 5:21:26 PM] Dika: go ahead, I had nothing to do with Richman, or bhw or wpbh, or es5, I already explained to you what happened exactly
    [9/22/11 5:21:47 PM] Dika: I am not a swindler or scammer
    [9/22/11 5:23:19 PM] marko velickovic: you told to my partner the same story but that time was 11.09 not 14.09.. so please spare me .. you are a lier and scammer.. and i will go to make a shit list now.. becayse i want my money back..
    [9/22/11 5:24:39 PM] Dika: please just call all the people, the most important thing I asked you to be patient,
    [9/22/11 5:25:13 PM] Dika: immediately after paypal unlock my account
    [9/22/11 5:27:45 PM] marko velickovic: liste man i have recorded everything.. first you said your PP is blocked on 11.09 now you sent me screenshoot wher i can see your PP is blocked on 14.09 after i sent PM to you "richman" on BHW i got respond in second.. so please stop to lying me ... as you can see i am reputable member there.. working with lot of people, hava all evidence against you... and i am totally fer here.. don't want to put you on shit list don't want to distroy your reputation.. i just want my money back.. that's all...
    [9/22/11 5:28:09 PM] marko velickovic: i hope you understand now.. even with this fake skype ID.. with 8 contacts..
    [9/22/11 5:29:57 PM] marko velickovic: giving you reall 5 minutes more to make your decision..
    [9/22/11 5:30:10 PM] marko velickovic: after that reporting to mods and will open shit list
    [9/22/11 5:30:45 PM] Dika: its no problem, it would not hurt for me, I do not have a relationship with anyone, in any forum ..
    I just want to resolve problems with your
    [9/22/11 5:31:28 PM] marko velickovic: yes i want that too.. but i guess i have to do on harder way..
    [9/22/11 5:31:33 PM] marko velickovic: it was your choice..
    [9/22/11 5:32:23 PM] marko velickovic: going now to report you to mod's
    [9/22/11 5:33:27 PM] Dika: no problem, i have active account with es5 or bhw account right now
    [9/22/11 5:34:17 PM] marko velickovic: ok will send you link of my shit list thread "richman" ;)
    [9/22/11 5:35:11 PM] Dika: do it


    So as you can see first time PP was blocked on 11.09 now today i got SS of "richman" and guess what PP was blocked on 14.09 :) fucking scammer.


    [​IMG]

    So guys don't do any business with this scammer and i really hope to get my money back.


    Regards to all
     
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  2. marrrko

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    And guess what, 2 "different" people are offline at the same time.. on skype and here on forum :)
     
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    richman has been informed and should be responding shortly.
     
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    hope you get your money back.

    looks like some classic fucking around there.
     
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  5. richman

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    I need to clarify this:
    1. I never sell and offer anything to you, especially relating to what you think. I am here only offer professional design services.

    2. I do not find a transaction number that you mentioned in my paypal. Paypal which you mentioned do not belong to me, a lot of my customers here who are satisfied with me.

    3. I am working as an outsourcing or freelance programing / designer on nextplugin, I am working on some parts of PHP programing and css display at the fb plugin. This does not mean if you have a problem with a member over there, you can involve me. I thought you were chatting with them.

    4. If you still accuse me, I immediately reported to the admin here.

    let admins here that determines whether I am guilty or not.
    i will contact pofek or dave. as soon as possible
     
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    No problem i have all evidence and you can read all of them on this thread, people will also read it so don't be upset ;)
     
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    richman is one of the finest designers at BHW...moreover..he has an iTrader of 131..I think you people are having some miss-communication....
     
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    Dave doesn't own BHW anymore and dragging Pofeckers name into this is not going to help you.

    It seems that the issue revolves around your signature and whether or not you are involved with the company the OP is having a dispute with. Now that you've openly shared that you are involved with them, the question becomes if you did indeed participate in any shady sales behaviour.

    ...and I'm not taking sides I'm just clarifying.
     
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    I hate scammers...:(
     
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    Marrrko:

    Did you find the service through richmans signature here on BHW?

    Did richman participate in any part of the sales process with you?

    Do you have any actual proof that he was involved, other than pushing a banner ad?
     
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    I will make a point about doing business OFFSITE with people from BHW: Always get the member to message you through the forums to clarify that they are supporting the offer/product/service. If the member is not in charge of the paypal account you are sending money to, it is hard to hold them 100% responsible if things go bad. Get them to tell you through PM where to send the money.

    Marrrko, do you believe that Richman is the person who got the money? Or do you think he is a business partner of the person who got the money? What is your proof of that, either way you think it.

    Also, this might be a good time for mods to clarify something:
    Is it legal on BHW to sell your signature space? Maybe we should introduce this as a rule for future issues like this?
     
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    I was also scammed for the same product from nextplugin dot com private forum.

    richman you have thread where you sell product from nextplugin site.

    If they paid you to run their product sales thread on this forum then you are part of them.
    I'm 100% sure that you are one who runs that site and all scam.

    If you want to say they rented your nick here to sell, then all your posts here could be rented to someone else and everything could be scam.
    Maybe your design service thread is also rented to someone else who will cheat and take money.

    I lost $499 on site that you, richman advertise on this forum.

    You can say that it's not your paypal ID or whatever...we all know how it's easy today to have multiple profiles and pretend to be someone else.

    If you are selling nextplugin stuff here it means that you are one behind that site.

    This is your thread:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...w-facebook-like-jacking-wordpress-plugin.html


    [​IMG]


    On that print screen is nextplugin URL and that is product from their (your) site.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Actually i wanted to say something similar here, because in this past 3 weeks many things was so fishy and i mentioned all of them, and i didn't get one single answer here from "richman"


    My questions again:


    Why after i contacted you your post is no longer available on your forum?
    http://forum.nextplugin.com/index.php?topic=175.0



    Guys I am not lying here, 10 minutes after i showed him it was deleted, come on, is this a coincidence, i don't think so. Anyway didn't get any answer, from "richman", regarding this.


    From "Dika" i got this answer:

    [9/22/11 4:48:57 PM] marko velickovic: it's closed today whan i contacted "richman"
    [9/22/11 4:49:01 PM] marko velickovic: before that it was open
    [9/22/11 4:49:10 PM] marko velickovic: tell me are you owner of next plugin?
    [9/22/11 4:49:24 PM] marko velickovic: so yesterday it was open
    [9/22/11 4:49:31 PM] marko velickovic: here is something fishy
    [9/22/11 4:49:44 PM] Dika: Lol.. its closed last week
    [9/22/11 4:49:50 PM] marko velickovic: no it;s not...
    [9/22/11 4:50:08 PM] marko velickovic: anyway.. i don't care when it's closed.. i didn't get prodiuct and money back
    [9/22/11 4:50:08 PM] Dika: did you mean, you paid and never receive the mastermind password from tom nextplugin ?
    [9/22/11 4:50:15 PM] marko velickovic: exaclty
    [9/22/11 4:50:20 PM] Dika: Lol



    And they know each others working together?? No make sense at all.
     
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    Well, Writing style on those skype logs and Richman's posts, looks similar.
     
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    Maybe your both right :/
     
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    Actually, reading through the post that the OP references - which technically shouldn't be on the forum since there is discussion of CS, you mentioned being able to supply a beta of the script, so it seems a little more than -

    Just saying...

    ND
     
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    Did you find the service through richmans signature here on BHW?
    There were post about it somewhere here

    Did richman participate in any part of the sales process with you?
    I didnt talk with him but order link was on site he was promoting

    Do you have any actual proof that he was involved, other than pushing a banner ad?
    I don't know who is he...it's just virutal name here on forum. But I'm 100% sure it's person behind nexplugin

    How i know, it's very simple, he removed his "products" today after i contacted him, he also removed his BHW username and some discounts from this link:
    http://nextplugin.com/bhw

    Unfortunately i didn't take a screenshot of this my bad (didn't know that i have a business with so professional scammer)
     
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    I was thinking the same thing
     
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    Not really bro :)

    Google is a bitch

    Check this out: WebCache has it all
     
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    i think the nextplugin people simply used richman's name on this.
    op have any proof these two richman's are same person?

    nextplugin richman's PP is blocked now.
    is bhw richman's PP is also blocked now?