NSA PRISM Program

How would one go about monetizing prism?

Any ideas.

I reckon that would pay off more than those crazy add's you see from time to time...lol

In fact would Snowden consider a career change? Would he be welcome here?

I am a noob thus have no opinion of any worth...

What are your 2 cents?

I think people are worrying to much, unless your a terrorist the NSA doesnt give a shit about you. They dont care if you do BH SEO, or using craigslist to hookup with a tranny.

The NSA's current program is basically a primitive version of "The Machine" from the show Person of Interest. They do not even use it to bust drug dealers,when they could easily use it for that.

Roparadise said:

I think people are worrying to much, unless your a terrorist the NSA doesnt give a shit about you. They dont care if you do BH SEO, or using craigslist to hookup with a tranny.

The NSA's current program is basically a primitive version of "The Machine" from the show Person of Interest. They do not even use it to bust drug dealers,when they could easily use it for that.

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The problem is - most of the people dont worry too much. They dont use it to bust drug dealers, yet. However, if the majority will stay apathetic, next they will use it to bust drug dealers. Then, a day will come and they will use it to suppress those who are not in line with the vision set by the government.

Its such a convenient tool in the wrong hands, and there are so many wrong hands in this world.

I meant to say people panic to much and worry to much that the NSA cares about them, they should still have a problem with the PRISM program. But it shouln't make you stay up all night thinking a bunch of FBI guys are going to raid your home if your not a terrorist.

People should just vote out the people in congress that support the PRISM and NSA,and stop complaining if they aren't going to do that.

Remember that movie Eagle Eye? I feel prism is the same thing. It gathers as much intel on everyone as possible, so when they do need it, its all in one place.

And also, I feel like this is a good thread to drop this in.

[video=youtube_share;7YvAYIJSSZY]http://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY[/video]

awesome post tymillz,

of course you were going to get this kind of response from members. The percentage of sheeple on the forum are very slim due to the nature of our goals and dreams which we pursue to achieve. We are an elite class of individuals. The sheeple are outside of our scope, watching television and becoming television induced sheeple that believe whatever the media or their loving government feeds them.


for anyone that believes that there are "terrorists", the public are the TERRORISTS, wake up people. Look at the way everything has been played out by the puppets.

Regards ,

Cratos

I think the program itself is bad. But Snowden is a traitor one way or the other.
And I never endorse lying filthy rats..

So yes I disagree with prism ect. But I never take up for rats no matter who they tell on.

Cheers,
Unclemike

How is snowden a traitor, its good he alerted people to the program, so everyone can start protecting their privacy more.


The "rats" issue is so freaking childish. So you wouldn't help a guy that whistle blew on a child rapist or child murderer?

unclemike said:

I think the program itself is bad. But Snowden is a traitor one way or the other.
And I never endorse lying filthy rats..

So yes I disagree with prism ect. But I never take up for rats no matter who they tell on.

Cheers,
Unclemike

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A rat? You call him a rat. So if a Nazi had told on Hitler would he be a rat. It must be nice to be so ignorant.

@ OldSalt

Personally, I wouldn't sign that even if you offered me a trunk full of money! Snowden had a security clearance and was being paid to do a job. He broke the law and belongs in jail for breaking what he agreed to when he was granted that clearance. People that enjoy the improved safety that programs like the ones exposed provide should not complain when it turns out that some of their own private info was briefly looked at - and ignored.

You shouldn't even know the programs exist... and thanks to that prick, all of you and the many these programs were actually designed to watch (and catch BEFORE they did something) know.

Yea... Go ahead and be a lamb, sign the petition. This isn't the silliness of Kevin Metnick. This guy betrayed the trust that he was given and should rot in jail until he's old and gray.

Just my .02 worth... feel free to disagree.

PS. as a final note, don't feel that "just because you're 'black hat', that you should back idiots like this supposed 'whistleblower'". The NSA does not care about your BH activities... lol If you enjoy the improved safety that programs like PRISM give you, then you honestly should be happy that they existed - and equally upset that the idiot did what he did - because now they will be much less effective. Do not think for a moment that all the petitions in the world will stop programs like those from happening - they will happen, as they should - I can guarantee it. I for one am glad that they do.

and now I will get off my podium. You will now be returned to your usual programming...

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Normally I agree with you and you have good views. However this is entirely different. Would you like to explain how 13,000 requests in 3 months constitutes matters of national security. And keep in mind that is only from 2 of the known 9 companies. Thats requests the FBI made for information not collected automatically. So If 2 companies had 13,000 request, just say the average for each company is a measly 5,000. Your realize that is over 11,000 requests each month for peoples personal records for EVERYTHING. If America had 11,000 terrorists a month, I think it would already be a trash heap.

http://sensenbrenner.house.gov/uploadedfiles/sensenbrenner_letter_to_attorney_general_eric_holder.pdf

We seek and receive information LESS THAN 40 times a YEAR.
And it turns out to be 10,000 A MONTH.

That is complete and utter bullshit. And people still fucking believe them.

The somewhat "funny and ironic" thing is that the Federal Government has admitted to the spy program by charging him. If they would have just let him talk and said " We don't talk about disgruntled ex employees" when asked by reporters about the issue. Then it wouldn't have been as much of an issue in the news lately.

seems he is now in russia...

As of Monday, NSA leaker Edward Snowden was still on the lam. He has managed to evade U.S. officials, who are reportedly furious with China for letting him escape to Moscow after the FBI thought they had him bottled up in Hong Kong.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Monday called on Russia to "do the right thing" and prevent professed NSA leaker Edward Snowden from fleeing Moscow and instead return him to the United States.

"I'm not going to get in to the details of what I think is going on, but we hope that the Russians will do the right thing," Kerry told NBC News in New Delhi, India. "We think it is very important in terms of our relationship. We think it is very important in terms of rule of law. There are important standards."

Snowden was expected to board a flight out of Moscow to Cuba on Monday morning, and heavy security at a Moscow airport fueled speculation he was continuing on a journey that is believed destined for Ecuador in his bid to avoid American espionage charges.

However, journalists aboard Monday morning's Aeroflot flight to Cuba said there was no sign of Snowden on board, even as Ecuador confirmed it was still considering Snowden's request for asylum.

Kerry, who is in the midst of a whirlwind seven-nation trip through the Mideast and Asia, pointed out that the U.S. has returned seven criminals to Russia in recent years.

An empty seat believed to be reserved for Edward Snowden is seen on an Aeroflot jet to Cuba before it left Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport on Monday.

The espionage charges leveled against Snowden are very serious, Kerry said, adding that he believes the former NSA contractor has betrayed his country.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...ssia-do-the-right-thing-and-return-nsa-leaker

Roparadise said:

I think people are worrying to much, unless your a terrorist the NSA doesnt give a shit about you. They dont care if you do BH SEO, or using craigslist to hookup with a tranny.

The NSA's current program is basically a primitive version of "The Machine" from the show Person of Interest. They do not even use it to bust drug dealers,when they could easily use it for that.

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you are naive if you think they spy on everyone just to spot terrorists.

how could they fail to spot Tsarnaev brothers if they had been spying on everything just to spot terrorism? Their mission has never been about terrorism. I think it's more about spying on business competitors on what they do etc. NSA bosses might be these businessmen funding political campaigns

when we talk about politics, we always need to link it with money. It's always connected. Nobody would want to waste enormous amount of taxpayers money just for terrorism. It's called living in fantasy.

OldSalt said:

Personally, I wouldn't sign that even if you offered me a trunk full of money! Snowden had a security clearance and was being paid to do a job. He broke the law and belongs in jail for breaking what he agreed to when he was granted that clearance. People that enjoy the improved safety that programs like the ones exposed provide should not complain when it turns out that some of their own private info was briefly looked at - and ignored.



You shouldn't even know the programs exist... and thanks to that prick, all of you and the many these programs were actually designed to watch (and catch BEFORE they did something) know.

Yea... Go ahead and be a lamb, sign the petition. This isn't the silliness of Kevin Metnick. This guy betrayed the trust that he was given and should rot in jail until he's old and gray.

Just my .02 worth... feel free to disagree.

PS. as a final note, don't feel that "just because you're 'black hat', that you should back idiots like this supposed 'whistleblower'". The NSA does not care about your BH activities... lol If you enjoy the improved safety that programs like PRISM give you, then you honestly should be happy that they existed - and equally upset that the idiot did what he did - because now they will be much less effective. Do not think for a moment that all the petitions in the world will stop programs like those from happening - they will happen, as they should - I can guarantee it. I for one am glad that they do.

and now I will get off my podium. You will now be returned to your usual programming...

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Are you for real? You call people who don't want to get spied on lambs while you enjoy your "safety"?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "
Benjamin Franklin

As a European citizen, learning that someone outside my country is spying on me is a huge thing. This is 100% ILLEGAL here, maybe in the US or UK it is normal but here it is not. So this guy is a HERO and will remain that way. I actually hope he reveals even more information in the near future to expose the NSA even more.

From the other hand we saw how awesome the whole stupid PRISM program worked (check out Boston, although I call it false flag but w/e). And of course we know "terrorists" usually use Facebook to arrange the "attacks" *facepalm*

OldSalt said:

Personally, I wouldn't sign that even if you offered me a trunk full of money! Snowden had a security clearance and was being paid to do a job. He broke the law and belongs in jail for breaking what he agreed to when he was granted that clearance. People that enjoy the improved safety that programs like the ones exposed provide should not complain when it turns out that some of their own private info was briefly looked at - and ignored.

You shouldn't even know the programs exist... and thanks to that prick, all of you and the many these programs were actually designed to watch (and catch BEFORE they did something) know.

Yea... Go ahead and be a lamb, sign the petition. This isn't the silliness of Kevin Metnick. This guy betrayed the trust that he was given and should rot in jail until he's old and gray.

Just my .02 worth... feel free to disagree.

PS. as a final note, don't feel that "just because you're 'black hat', that you should back idiots like this supposed 'whistleblower'". The NSA does not care about your BH activities... lol If you enjoy the improved safety that programs like PRISM give you, then you honestly should be happy that they existed - and equally upset that the idiot did what he did - because now they will be much less effective. Do not think for a moment that all the petitions in the world will stop programs like those from happening - they will happen, as they should - I can guarantee it. I for one am glad that they do.


and now I will get off my podium. You will now be returned to your usual programming...

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Holy shit... If you think for a second that they are doing this for the safety of the common man you are dead wrong. Even if you believe that these measures are extremely necessary, I can't respect the fact that people should be in the dark about this.

I'm lost on words how you'd attack this issue in such an agressive manner.. you must be getting old