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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by childrenwithknives, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. childrenwithknives

    childrenwithknives Newbie

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    This is a question for all you e-mail marketers out there.
    I have a list of e-mails, relatively large.

    I've been sitting on it for a while and have never sent out a single e-mail to any of them.

    I'm about to start using them but i was wondering if there a was a way to create an opt-in list with them.
    It sounds a bit misleading but i was thinking of creating a link in the e-mail saying "To unsubscribe click here".
    But, in reality, it would just somehow let me know that the e-mail is still active. This would help me keep my list more tight and prevent from getting all my connections blacklisted.

    Would i have to send the user to an external page? I don't want it to come off like their opening malware.

    Like i said, i know it's a bit sinister but hey, this is BHW. :p
     
  2. Veyron

    Veyron BANNED BANNED

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    Are they targeted emails? If so, send them an offer and see how many open your email and see how many sales & conversions you get. This will give you a good idea as to how many of your emails/leads are active.

    Veyron
     
  3. childrenwithknives

    childrenwithknives Newbie

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    No no. I scraped these back in High School when i stayed in on Friday nights due to not having a social life ;P

    How can i tell which ones are opened though? Will a mass mailing software tell me?

    I'm promoting someone else product and there's isn't really a way to ask them for the e-mail that confirmed a purchase.
     
  4. fistor

    fistor Regular Member

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    Your email has 2 links.

    1.) Offer = Mail link -> buffer site/redirector + tracking -> offer
    2.) Unsubscribe = Mail link -> buffer site + tracking -> fake "unsubscribed" site

    Is that what you are looking for?
     
  5. childrenwithknives

    childrenwithknives Newbie

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    Not sure what you mean by buffer site, I'm going to assume you mean a sale site or a review site where you post your ads.
    Either way, traffic won't be redirected to MY site. It belongs to someone else. I'm simply sending traffic their way.

    I want to know know how many of those e-mails actually get open or even better, how many actually bother to click the link to said site. I'm not a computer expert, but it seems the only way to truly know is to be in control of the site. Like i said though, that's beyond my control.
     
  6. fistor

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    Then yea, do as I suggested.
    Buffer site (redirecting site) is a simple (blank) site, where you send your leads to.
    They would get tracked there before they would get redirected to the target site.
    Remember to append the link with their email, so you know exactly which email clicked the link. On the site setup a SQL-Database or even a simple .txt file and let php write to it, whenever a new ID appears.

    example.com (owned by you, blank page, has tracking code)
    target.com (the sales site, not owned by you)

    mail link (href="example.com?id=email@email.com") -> example.com (tracks the incoming traffic [id=email@email.com] and then redirects to target.com) -> target.com



    This one is way harder than tracking how many people clicked your ads.
    To get a rough idea about the open rate you'd have to do some pixel tracking within the e-mail. Most providers block graphics from unknown sender right away though.
    The lead tracking is not a problem, as I stated above.
     
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  7. childrenwithknives

    childrenwithknives Newbie

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    Hell yeah.

    Now i have a clear idea on how to do it.

    Thanks!