nobody answers this question. multiple people have the same problem.

speedyallan77 said:
no all different details.
different banks and different address to verify.
name can be same tho.
and lastly each channel with a different adsense and email are all managed on different computers at different locations, internet ip etc
if not Google can easily make the link that it's you.

your reply makes no sense. this is algorithm related issue not about forcing people to watch lol.
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WOW sounds like a 007 movie script, good going mate. That's how you keep under the radar
 
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memovlad said:
Tou misunderstood what I said :)
I never said I dont belive your you saying , I just said you always speak about " your friends , my partners , my hand, my group " and those stuffs .

As blackhatworld is the biggest forum in IM, I could find it impossible as none of your friends to dont have an account here and back you up !

" I'm one of his friend what he speaks about all the time " - ANYONE ?!?!?
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Look I've been on this forum since 2013 and another forum. You don't know the countless times I've seen methods revealed and get abused then people cry about it getting patched. Thats why methods have to be kept private.
If you take the time to research this forum and trial different things for yourself you'll end up making your own succesful unique method.
 
sothisisnightlife said:
Look I've been on this forum since 2013 and another forum. You don't know the countless times I've seen methods revealed and get abused then people cry about it getting patched. Thats why methods have to be kept private.
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I totally agree with you , and I respect @speedyallan77 for all the help and contributions what he give to this forum ( he even helped me with some stuffs ) , but my question was completely different one @sothisisnightlife please read carefully before quoting my posts :) . I never said something about revealing methods , or I dont belive what hes saying and stuffs like .


READ PROPER - my friend
 
memovlad said:
I totally agree with you , and I respect @speedyallan77 for all the help and contributions what he give to this forum ( he even helped me with some stuffs ) , but my question was completely different one @sothisisnightlife please read carefully before quoting my posts :) . I never said something about revealing methods , or I dont belive what hes saying and stuffs like .


READ PROPER - my friend
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I kinda agree with your points, we have never seen proof of your friends/group or even one of your channels
 
speedyallan77 said:
it impacts algo like views getting throttled based on my tests.
example of a case where i was scaling with multiple channels in same adsense and the views on my main channel crashed within a day or 3, around the time when the new 7 channels were connected.
and the total views i used to get on it were sort of like distributed to other channels.


second case observation. the highest views I've usually observed on a few cases of individual spam channels with no other channels connected to that adsense was between 60M to 200M views.

now the regular people who have multiple channels on one Adsense, pull in decent views like around 40 to 60M, maybe even 100M views per month.
now the thing is becoz these guys are already getting that many views per month, they think they are doing great and fine and not notice.

me and my group of people usually do a lot of tests in yt and as soon as we were scaling in quick succession on same adsense we started to notice strange effects on channels that were already performing well, their views started to go down by 50 to 80 percent.
if i were to delete these extra monetized channels or sell them to a new owner who use these channels on new ip and adsense, after a week or something these main channels whose views crashed by 50 to 80 percent , started to recover again.
i tested this around 3 times and got same results.

tthe regular content creator does not care about all these tiny details and may not even notice.


now an example of the multiple adsense/mcn method is what the Vietnamese do.
now that I've seen the maxed out limits what individual successful spam method channels were able to reach with top performance was between 60 to 200M views per month.

so when multiple channels are added to this adsense now this 60M to 200M views per month are sort of divided between each channel such that i stay within that threshold limit of 60 to 200M.
(in some cases yes it can go slightly more)

now the easy bypass of this is what Vietnam guys do as they manage each channel on different computer, location, different ip address, different adsense/mcn etc.
this group i know run animation spam channels that kids usually watch.
they are the biggest money makers in The mcn they joined.
rather than pulling 60 to 200M views with multiple channels combined, they are pulling in 60 to 100M views per channel per month.
they bring in between 800M to 1B+ views per month on all their channels combined.
that's extremely high.

now they are surely aware about this issue that's why they went this route.

to conclude The reason this maybe happening is not because Google does not like people to have multiple channels and limit them etc

the real reason all these silent algo updates happen in the background is due to spammers.
spammers are the main problem on all platforms and platforms are forced to Make silent updates like this just because of them and often these updates ruin it for legit content creators who make good Content.

the exception to this limitation issue is surely all the big established channels and well known brands in yt who are probably whitelisted.
like all The big guys and companies, like mrbeast, pewdiepie, tseries, watchmojo, marvel entertainment etc.

this limitation is probably put in place to control startup money making spammers.
once u r big and established and probably HQ channel then you might get unlocked limits in algo

like if MrBeast opens multiple channels He gets huge views on each.
like he does now
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Wow this is really good information to know. Thanks for sharing it really helps.
 
Stratosphere55 said:
I kinda agree with your points, we have never seen proof of your friends/group or even one of your channels
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He posted a channel he owned a few weeks ago. Besides he's always posted really good threads and shared good information with everyone. I understand what you're trying to say but honestly no one is going to post their cash cow channels and even if his friends were on this forum, would they all come in and confirm what he's saying?
 
@speedyallan77 judging by the fact that you showed your small minecraft YouTube channel. Is it possible to judge that it is difficult to get into this niche even using your bh methods?
 
Speedy whats tat animation spam channel? kindly dm

Yt is indirectly updating small bits related to "user engagement" it seems more of kind of "what this user watched" with "what this type of user want to watch" based on the engagement metrics
To be more deep- user click and watch rate them 1
users click and watch liked rate them 2
users click watch like comment shared rate 5
Finding audience based on the higher rating
or
YT Algo thinks video performs well lets push for the viral with browse feature ;some million impressions!
Analysing after few million impressions
If perform well - Bags Million views
Did not perform "as expected"(value assign by algo) drop down from browse
Sharing from experience
 
Stratosphere55 said:
I kinda agree with your points, we have never seen proof of your friends/group or even one of your channels
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nobody doing yt for money that too mostly behind blackhat method is going to post their channels, except maybe in some cases.
why should my group come here?
i didnt even meet them in the forum.
im sticking to them coz things work well and i also get lot of insider yt information.

Chibita said:
Wow this is really good information to know. Thanks for sharing it really helps.
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no probs
Cool Zero said:
@speedyallan77 judging by the fact that you showed your small minecraft YouTube channel. Is it possible to judge that it is difficult to get into this niche even using your bh methods?
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no it's not difficult. i posted my most useless minecraft channel that i didnt have Time yet to grow cos i was busy managing other things.
the only reason i posted an irrelevant channel is coz i gave some guy the task to terminate me coz he claimed that mass flagging can ban me.
i wanted to see him do that as i dont care about that channel even if it got banned.

rajiced said:
Speedy whats tat animation spam channel? kindly dm

Yt is indirectly updating small bits related to "user engagement" it seems more of kind of "what this user watched" with "what this type of user want to watch" based on the engagement metrics
To be more deep- user click and watch rate them 1
users click and watch liked rate them 2
users click watch like comment shared rate 5
Finding audience based on the higher rating
or
YT Algo thinks video performs well lets push for the viral with browse feature ;some million impressions!
Analysing after few million impressions
If perform well - Bags Million views
Did not perform "as expected"(value assign by algo) drop down from browse
Sharing from experience
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you are right about this. by next year we might see huge change in algorithm soon.
becoz now they see user rating too.
probably that will be a determining factor to keep suggesting you in browse featured or fully dropping you out.

by animation spam channels i refer to channels that usually run by guys as cashcow channels.

a. work could be outsourced to some animator to make daily animation videos

b. they could be doing it by themselves on a daily basis and make enough money then start outsourcing work to cheap animators.

either way this is animation that is mass produceable and won't take much effort.
maybe templated
 
by animation spam channels i refer to channels that usually run by guys as cashcow channels.

a. work could be outsourced to some animator to make daily animation videos

b. they could be doing it by themselves on a daily basis and make enough money then start outsourcing work to cheap animators.

either way this is animation that is mass produceable and won't take much effort.
maybe templated
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Never heared for this type of channel thanks will look into it
Where I can find tat vietnamese group? Any link would be helpful to enhance my Yt career, would like to learn & earn more
 
@speedyallan77 you sure know a lot, some are right, but some are wrong.
Im selling monetized channels to some normal guys.
My hobby is sometimes tracking how big those channels become. If you try to reupload, you wont get views
Actually the contents ,keywords arent really necessary...animation, show, highlight or even rate 18 are all good
 
speedyallan77 said:
that's why on yt you need to have multiple channels.
you could go from getting a consistent 50k to 60k views a day to suddenly 1k to 3k a day after months.
happens overnight.

with no change in content type or drop in ctr.
could be competitors making better video.
this is why i scale with multiple channels and different adsense accounts coz this keeps on happening for some mysterious reason.
u can see from below links.

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/43166970?hl=en

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/36628073?hl=en
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Happened to me a year ago. I went from constant $100/day or so to less than $100/month for the said video.

In my case I believe it was an update by YouTube.
 
YTMonetized said:
@speedyallan77 you sure know a lot, some are right, but some are wrong.
Im selling monetized channels to some normal guys.
My hobby is sometimes tracking how big those channels become. If you try to reupload, you wont get views
Actually the contents ,keywords arent really necessary...animation, show, highlight or even rate 18 are all good
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I didn't understand tho what precisely you were referring to
 
speedyallan77 said:
that's why on yt you need to have multiple channels.
you could go from getting a consistent 50k to 60k views a day to suddenly 1k to 3k a day after months.
happens overnight.

with no change in content type or drop in ctr.
could be competitors making better video.
this is why i scale with multiple channels and different adsense accounts coz this keeps on happening for some mysterious reason.
u can see from below links.

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/43166970?hl=en

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/36628073?hl=en
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When do you start to experience this sudden drop. Is it after you add a second channel to the same adsense account or is it after more than one? Are they fresh adsense accounts or could it be due to the account history.
 
MightyCreation said:
When do you start to experience this sudden drop. Is it after you add a second channel to the same adsense account or is it after more than one? Are they fresh adsense accounts or could it be due to the account history.
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when u add too many channels to same adsense account u won't get that many views.
even if u manage those channels from same ip but have different adsense u will be throttled.

example try to use one channel on adsense build it up to the point where it starts getting Huge daily views.
like 100k to 500k daily

now when this Channel is on a consistent streak, now buy more monetized channels which have some good Authority like 6 to 7 channels and start uploading and make all of them active.

it will be just matter of time before u see a huge drop in views on that first channel that you built to authority which gets 100k to 500k daily.

the algo will reduce suggestions to limit you from trying to scale and spam money from yt.


again note, this is an exception for HQ channels or the big guys like mrbeast..

these channels have established themselves as a Google preferred
once u reach that level u won't face this problem.
but those are only HQ channels.

such channels are whitelisted by Google and have unlocked levels in algorithm
 
Yes, i see channels with huge sub number get little views
 
@speedyallan77 At what level of Daily views did you start to experience this ? If lets say i have a channel with 10,000 daily views then i open a second one , should i expect Youtube to Throttle the views ? Or does this happen when you have a big channel with 50,000-100,000 daily views ?

@wengthemeng - Have you experienced this as you run multiple channels ?
 
People should stop investing in social media.

You are giving your content away.

Host it yourself!

I just got word that a youtube channel in a hobby niche got delisted for no reason. I mean this is a harmless hobby channel with 100% clean videos. Got delisted for no reason at all.

Get the fuck out of social media. Host your own content or you will regret it later.
 
bartosimpsonio said:
People should stop investing in social media.

You are giving your content away.

Host it yourself!

I just got word that a youtube channel in a hobby niche got delisted for no reason. I mean this is a harmless hobby channel with 100% clean videos. Got delisted for no reason at all.

Get the fuck out of social media. Host your own content or you will regret it later.
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that is true
but being a blackhat expert there is ton of money to be made on youtube.
so while hosting ur own content it's also good to farm money from yt.

cash cow channel owners make 500k $ to 1M$+
per month.
so leaving that is saying no to big easy money.

make money while it lasts
 
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