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Newbie Rant

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hdanap, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. hdanap

    hdanap Registered Member

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    You see, a lot of people probably will be good at keyword research if they had enough funds for the trial n error processes until they perfected the act. I'm a newbie. and I learn the most when I follow direct instructions, like do this do that then I replicate with other niches on my own after1 successful run.

    I really don't like the vague descriptions up and around everywhere of how to make money or do this or that that leads to a lot of wasted money. I'm not trying to be spoon fed but I believe If there was at least one guide or e book that would take you exactly through the process until at least 50 bucks is earned i.e. Pick a niche, do the keyword research, build the site, build link pushes or link wheels via web 2.0's , what ever is effective these days. do sb blasts, xrummer, amr, ping, bmd, I mean the works until it makes at least, 50 bucks.

    I mean if we newbies had some one to show exact steps and give us directives, no guess work (considering as a newbie there is usually limited cash) that would amazing

    Well for me if I can see(view/watch video) a process like this, it would take me places n I will be able to replicate the process differently, I am sure other newbies would agree.

    May b its just me but I think that will actually be a very good e-book or tutorial because it will include everything from:

    1. choosing a niche (process and why that niche was chosen)
    2. keyword research
    3. build site (word-press)
    4. Link building (content links through link pushes via web 2.0's, blog commenting, forum profiles etc.)
    5. make the site rank and earn at least 50 bucks.

    If a tut can be made like that, there will a lot answered but the vague descriptions could be very overwhelming.

    I like what BTB is doing but too bad its not for the public. He picked two total newbies and taking them from nothing to something
    but no guarantees. +rep to that guy
     
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  3. hdanap

    hdanap Registered Member

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    Very nice bro, i really appreciate that, I know now to use the search button on here but I really can't find anything recent on deciding on a niche to follow most posts im seeing are 2008-09, mayb im not searching the right way. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    The search function is useful but not always efficient. With thousands of threads sometimes it can be a task filtering the junk and questions from the real gems. ;)
     
  5. BassTrackerBoats

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    There will be a free ebook coming out on Wednesday covering all of that with at least 6 or 7 videos... maybe even more as well as several ways to get backlinks without spending a dime.

    I'll even change my sig pointing to the free ebook.



    It might be so step by step that it will be annoying.
     
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  6. skadster

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    Excellent post hdanap.

    I too was looking for something similar to what you are looking for. I found some excellent guides, but they where bits here and bits their.

    I wasn't sure what to go for and ended up going for something that was pretty much useless. I really should have read more, it was my own fault. I heard the cries of take action, so action I took, ended up with lemons.

    I can relate to what you're saying regarding money too. I hit a bit of a wall financially recently, ended up spending money I could ill afford trying to get ahead on my site. While the money I spent may have been chicken feed to others, chicken feed to me too in the past. It left me with nowt to try but free bloggs. So even If I see a domain it'll have to wait for another couple of weeks at least. But hey! at least I'm a time millionaire.

    I imagine BTB's blogg will be a great resource when it hit's. Even if like Abtroose says the guides are here, it's hard for a new guy with no experience to separate the wheat from the chaff. That said thanks for the links Abtroose, I'll be sure to read them. :)
     
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  7. hdanap

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    Thanks BTB, very great help you are providing to us newbies.

    Thanks a lot.
     
  8. GreyWolf

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    Best SEO practices change as google makes updates and changes to it's algorithms. The basics are fairly constant but you need to keep up with the specifics on what works best. You can learn a lot from older SEO tutorials (especially the basics) so it's still worth reading them, but you'll definitely want to read newer guides to really get the most current information.

    That doesn't really apply the same with niche research though.
    The things that matter for selecting a niche (and/or products to promote) haven't really changed much. An older guide from 2008-09 on how to select a good niche will most likely be just as helpful today as it was when written. The only real thing you need to watch for in older threads on niche research is some of the recommended tools might not be available. If you run into a problem like that just look for a newer tool that does the same thing. Even that isn't a big deal though because some of best tools have had regular updates and are still around.

    :pirate:
     
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    Demonoid is very good for just starting out too, especially when money is tight. You can find many useful things there to help you get started.
     
  10. hdanap

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    Thanks evryone for the advice, i will look into Demonoid, never heard of it though
     
  11. Pilot-Talk

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    I don't understand the rant... You just explained how you learned everything the hard way. Why don't YOU write a tutorial then? You are not going to do that for the same reasons everyone else hasn't done it. Why is that? THAT is the right question my friend...:33:
     
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    What happened to the ebook and the thread ? Was it moved to jr.vip ?
     
  13. BassTrackerBoats

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    The thread was rightfully deleted by a Mod as coaching is not allowed here per the rules.

    The ebook is being reviewed by a Mod to make sure it is OK to offer here... I did that after I found out I broker a rule about coaching.

    I didn't know about the coaching rule and in hind site should have asked a Mod before the offer.

    Live and learn and glad to do both.
     
  14. G-S-T

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    Have a read through my threads, there are a few solid methods there, explained in full. If you get yourself a Jr.Vip membership, you will see some of my really good stuff.

    Seriously, if you look through and piece together a plan you will be banking in no time.

    PM me if you want some ideas.
     
  15. phpbuilt

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    Coaching? Not seeing it here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/terms.html (searched for "coach" not on the page).

    I'd like to know about this rule too, coaching sounds like a beneficial thing and I can't understand under what circumstances it would be disallowed.

    Except maybe if it was mainly geared towards teaching you how to use a product that needs to be bought and is an indirect method of selling that product outside the BST thread.

    But even then ... if you've bought a BST thread already, why wouldn't coaching be allowed? I've seen dozens of threads on "case study using ______ product". To me, that seems a whole lot less useful than "how to use ______ product successfully tutorial".

    Can anyone point to a URL with this rule?
     
  16. renegadelife

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    Would PM'ing me that be against the rules as well?
     
  17. BassTrackerBoats

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    If it is against the rules in the public forum, I assume it is against the rules in a PM.
     
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    I'm still confused, did they show a URL on the site that explains this no coaching rule? Seems to me all of BHW involves people who know more coaching people who know less.
     
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  19. hdanap

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    Thanks for the tip. Im now just going through your threads to see what works. Also about Jnr. Vip, I read in the rules that I need at least 100 quality post and $97, whats that about?

    Will pm you.

    Thanks
     
  20. Ferndog

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    very helpful indeed, thanks