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Newbie drowning in info, looking for mentor to pay it forward

Discussion in 'Hire a Freelancer' started by sabbath, Jul 20, 2008.

  1. sabbath

    sabbath Newbie

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    I have spent the money on Bans and xsitepro, downloaded everything that mentions blackhat, and even attempted a wordpress site with no success.
    I feel as though I'm stuck in quicksand. I know the rope is there, but have no clue which method has the best odds.
    If there are any advanced members who would be willing to mentor a middle aged man under pay it forward terms, I would be eternally greatful.
    Thank You

    Sabbath
     
  2. popcrdom29

    popcrdom29 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hi sabbath,

    I don't think there's a need to pay anyone. We are all willing to help each other out without charging a fee. With that said, just take it slow and easy. There's way too much information to absorb in a short period of time.

    Before spending anymore money, you should know exactly what is that you want to do. Find a niche market or product, find a hot product, what's popular at the moment and take it from there. Do what you have to in order to start marketing your niche, either building web pages, blogs and then getting traffic to them. There are many many ways of doing that.

    As long as you do something every day, you'll do just fine.
     
  3. themagician

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    '...Baby steps young Sabbath, baby steps.

    Don't go flying around trying all the many and varied techniques discussed on this board, settle on one, work it and if it doesn't in fact work for you after a reasonable time spent, then move on and try something else.

    Choosing something to begin with might be as simple as pulling it out of a hat, a Black Hat, of course, as there is no one method better than another, just different.

    One important lesson I did learn back in my teens, over a hundred years ago, was this:

    One guy goes to the Gym to lift weights. He goes every day and spends 20 minutes, 24/7.

    The other guy goes to the Gym, he lifts weights for an hour or more, but only goes once in a while.

    Who do you think builds the muscle?


    Whatever you choose to do, do a little everyday...EVERYDAY!

    Good luck and welcome aboard.

    themagician
     
  4. apekillape

    apekillape Senior Member Premium Member

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    I'd advise cookie stuffing in your position. If you've already got a decent grasp of bans and eBay at the moment, it should come naturally as an addition to what you've got available.

    Also, you may want to check out Oldenstylehats's new book in the BST section. He's a friend of mine, so you're not crazy to think I might be shilling for him. But it's worth it for sure, and it should definitely give you some more options as to what you can get into.

    Lemme know how it goes.

    N
     
  5. cc9083

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    "Oldenstylehats's new book in the BST section"
    Sorry if this may sound silly but where can I find this e-book? Where is the BST Section? Thanks.
     
  6. rabid

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    Try this link:
    w3.blackhatworld.c0m/blackhat-seo/buy-sell-trade/19244-meta-marketing-cookie-stuffing-edition-make-more-smart-money.html
     
  7. JohnDoe

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    Link above posted
     
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  8. Stumickel

    Stumickel Junior Member

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    Sabbath.

    I have had the same problem and I have recently managed to come to grips with it somewhat. The trick I found is to divide up my work time during the day.

    I MUST SUBMIT STUFF (backlinks, articles, videos, blog comments, etc., and this includes some elementary record keeping)

    I MUST BUILD MY SITES (that covers normal sites, blogs, Squidoo, Web 2.0, etc.)

    It doesn't matter whether I am doing something new or repeating something. And I do not have to cover everything I have out there. But I have to do these two activities everyday as my money stuff. Some time has to be given to them—both of them—every single day—come hell or high water.

    For my creative side, I like to write. I can either work on an article or a product for my money stuff. Or rewrite PLR stuff. Or do a video or audio. I don't push myself to do all of these things every day, but I do at least one.

    I have a hobby (involving writing) I love, so I do that for a bit everyday.

    Finally, there is learning. Reading the ebooks, the forums (especially here) and blogs etc., watching the videos, listening to the audios, etc. Shit, just reading crap and dreaming about getting filthy stinking rich off the Internet! :)

    I try to do my day in five sections like that and it helps with the information glut. Knowing that I have to do all five of them helps me set small realistic goals for each section.

    If on one day I miss something because of interruptions or whatever, I shrug it off. It's gone and I am not going to worry about it. But I make sure the next day I do not skip that section. And I try hard to do all five each day.

    My time each day on each section varies and depends on urgencies.

    Maybe this approach will be useful to you. If you keep going on some schedule like this for a while, you can't help but make money.

    Good luck. I do feel your pain.
     
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  9. Vivica

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    Are there any more of those still available? I bought this myself, and I'm setting it up now. I'm putting my own spin on it, of course. It was well worth the investment, but ONLY if you actually DO it. It probably wouldn't be good for someone that's still suffering from paralysis by analysis (aka information overload) though.
     
  10. AgentZero

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    Top advice, also try to concentrate on one area for example if you are doing PPC just concentrate on PPC, dont go quickly changing to SEO and going back and forward. Research which options you want to take before you begin. Choose the one in which you think you will succeed, and will most likely enjoy. Also dont bother reading ebooks most of them are rubbish. Use fourms like BHW, digital point, etc. And finally....Its All about Trial and Error.
     
  11. sabbath

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    I've since learned that trying build 3 sites and figure out a plan is bit to daunting for myself.
    I'm sure once I get a system down, maintaining multiple sites will be much easier. But for now, I made one 2 bans sites and am concentrating more on the wordpress blog that I'll be using CS with. I find the startup and promotion areas to be the hardest. Social bookmarking and back links are my main agenda right now. And reading of course. I think if I saw some traffic, I'd be a little happier. So far I've yet to find a good method to start getting visitors.
     
  12. jubb

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    sorry to bump an old thread. how are you doing now sabbath? i came here to look for some inspiration and this thread stoked my nerves because I too is in somewhat of a similiar situation: BANS, spending too much money, attempted to start a WP site etc. And i gotta alot of the information here is flying over my head

    my girlfriend of almost 10 years is almost on the verge of leaving me because i been out of work for more than a year

    let us know how ur doing, sabbath