I'm wanting to help people find and convert sales leads of all types. Furthermore, I want to setup a mode whereby others knowlegeable in lead gen and conversion can help each other with or without my input. There is no reason we should all have to re-invent the wheel (so to speak) and I have plenty of material and ways to help shorten your learning curve. From landing page design to traffic generation and finally lead conversions I work with unconventional methods to generate sales. This means no blogging, so seo, no backlinks. Automation is high on my list of things that must be done. First though, I need to find out what your needs (as a group) are. Stop wasting your time with worn-out methods that quit producing years ago. Look at the thanks I received on this one post about getting customers - I have lots more material like this to share with you: That post is at: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/776216-method-how-find-customers.html and posting it was just a side thought I had. Interested? Make a reply to this thread or PM me your skype id, or add me on skype my id is gemusli. Phillip aka thedorf P.S. Your thoughts and responses to this idea are all appreciated - positive and negative.