I just got this HP elitebook for £150. The build quality is absolutely fantastic and theres no marks on it. I upped the ram to 8gig and put a samsung ssd in it and its flying! everything starts first time, windows boots up in a few seconds. It's got far more features and connect-ability than consumer main stream products. Things like fingerprint scanner and sim card... My friends just spent £300 on some acer plastic piece of crap from pc world. It has a celeron cpu and it comes preloaded with bloatware. He will no doubt be replacing it in a couple of years time when it's broke, i'm confident my HP will be running for many years to come. It's built like a tank, oozes class Point of this thread is.. You get far far better value for money buying grade a refurbished business grade laptops that were expensive a few years ago.