Negative SEO Campaigns
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naomi_beats
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saurabhdhar
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If i were you, I would be improving myself instead of using anything unethical.
sudorank
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If the site is new (Less than 1 year old) then the attack will most likely work. If it's an older site, authority or all of the above you will end up improving their rank. I've done a little experimentation with this.
What Matt Cutts says and what actually happens in the real world are two hugely different things. Negative SEO exists, seen it attempted and seen the aftermath.
IMHO negative SEO has it's place, it's a very small one however and 99.9% of the time you would be far better to spend time improving your own site. Even in cases of reputation management it's a dicey move making those 10 fiver orders for xrumer / pligg blasts. I think best practice in these cases now is to shove youtube, local directories and other web 2.0's onto page 1 to push the negative stuff down.... but i digress.....
I'm not here to judge! I'm just here to help you understand and learn something new myself!
naomi_beats
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If they are copying everything in your content, add links in your content to other pages throughout your website. When they copy the content they'll most likely grab the links as well, and end up giving you backlinks lol...
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You would have to analyze the competition. Meaning that while I don't do negative SEO its very real. In looking at link profiles and analyzing sites that have been penalized vs sites that have not, and keeping on the pulse of the algos, you can see what a link "profile" looks like for sites that are penalized.
So then you could apply the same logic, and analyze the competitor link profile and figure out what it would take to tilt if off balance to the degree that it looks like a site that got penalized.
However you will likley, at least short term, help a lot of your competitors so you would in theory want to know what it would take to achieve your goal, else your hurting your self more then anyone. I suppose you could negatively apply Seth Godins "the dip" in this case.
However all the theory aside, as mentioned above you are really better off to just try and out rank your competitors. By the time you dive into trying to negative seo them, if you understand it enough to succeed and have the resources enough to succeed, you could at the same time apply that same effort to just making a positive influence on your own stuff.
Its sort of like the person who tries to avoid the boss all day at work and look busy but get nothing done, if they just put the same effort into working on something productive, everyone wins and they always have a job.
I certainly study negative SEO as its a means to understand what not to do and when you know what not to do you can look at a site that is suceeded and see what to do and when you understand both sides your able to make smarter decisions about positive forward progress.
Not to mention the "authority" of the domain that a url is on, can change the game all over the map. So I always like to keep tabs on negative SEO, but I use the knowledge as a means of getting a better total understanding of what works and what doesn't work in the marketplace.
My 2 cents.
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Do you know disavow tool has a limit of number of links you can disavow?
Even if you go "domain:" there is still a limit.
Modern tools can shit 100x faster than you can disavow.
cash202
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If I were you, I would think about according to whom this or that is unethical?
Who created these ethical guidelines?
For what purpose?
And who benefits the most from you being all "ethical"?
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Great post, man!
Search engines dictated their "ethics" all the while they spam the world with ads, track everyone, include their own hidden affiliate crap on their search results and SEO's are the unethical ones. Incredible how the sheep simply listen to the search engine reps as if they're perfect and repeat their BS all over the place as sacred truths.
Look at search results today: Amazon, Ebay, yahoo answers, youtube.... as if Google listing youtube on SERPs wasn't obvious conflict of interests.
naomi_beats
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Exactly...Not to mention this is blackhatworld.com not "Matt Cutt and Friends" ffs.
cash202
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Loved your rant here http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-google-penalized-spamming-serps-youtube.html
Are you Aaron Wall - https://twitter.com/aaronwall/statuses/354680171757973504?
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Loved your rant here http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-google-penalized-spamming-serps-youtube.html
Are you Aaron Wall - https://twitter.com/aaronwall/statuses/354680171757973504?
That's one small tweet for a man, one giant leap for blackhatkind.
This also works in a funny way because if 2 sites publish the same article at the same time the site with the higher PR will take credit and the lower one will be seen as duplicate.
Best defense is boost your PR. I would suggest buying High PR page links, or straight out buying high pr domains and linking them to your site to boost it. But im not an expert at raising a sites pr.
Best defense is boost your PR. I would suggest buying High PR page links, or straight out buying high pr domains and linking them to your site to boost it. But im not an expert at raising a sites pr.
naomi_beats
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Probably would work better to just 301 them to your site rather than linking if you've bought some higher pr's. At least temporarily you'll get a nice boost. Soak up their backlinks on your site