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needing help on a gameplan

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by afallison, May 25, 2009.

  1. afallison

    afallison Regular Member

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    ok. I have been reading and reading for weeks and I just need a game plan to stick by. I have read posts claiming so and so works and I just want some feedback.

    I started out black hat, a little testing, and all seemed to work ok. Not much money, but not a big deal. Then I really got into keyword research, found a niche that I wanted to try and market a clickbank product. I went whitehat, unique content, no spamming, etc... Easily made #1 on google with 1 keyword and #3 with another. My other "test" site is #1 for another keyword and it was just leeching from an rss feed - no spinning or anything.

    Anyway, I got the keyword research figured out, which seemed to be my biggest hurdle. I have a nice list I can't wait to utilize. What I actually need help with the most is backlinks, blog farms, and link wheels. I get kind of lost there.

    Let me give you my goal for my sites. adsense. I want adsense to be my primary source of income from my money sites. Affiliate marketing is not my thing. I want to plant adsense all over the top of the blog and keep all the content down low on the page. the content is simply to get me indexed for the keyword, not for actual human visitors to find information. If they have gone with a long tail search, i think they'll click my adsense links (a theory).

    Blog Farms & Link Wheels:
    I PROMISE i have been reading. Exactly what content am i putting on these bl0gger/w0rdpress/squid00 blogs? Am i spinning content from my money page and just giving links to my other blog farm sites+money sites? Is it that simple? And when I'm pinging, am I pinging each blog AND post in the blog? Example - blogger with 5 posts - am I pinging each specific url - the home and post urls? the best way i know to ping a site is ping0matic. Now to the shitty part I'm not getting.

    Backlinks:
    I was thinking of basically spamming blogs in hopes of ******** links. Kind of an old trick, but it's all I know. Suggestions on software to help this process would be great. I'm understanding that i needs thousands of backlinks for a site to be successful for the future, but what about the quality of the backlinks? Because the keyword site I currently have at #1 only has 1 backlink. lol.

    I am completely aware that results take days, weeks, or even months depending on the competition. If I'm going to start buying hundreds of domains for money sites, I want to make sure I can make them as successful as i can. I am not looking for a "hold my hand" experience. Just some helpful advice would be great.

    There is so much conflicting info on the forums it's hard to keep up. btw, I am all for the "bootcamp" mentioned 3 months ago and I am seriously ready to fork over 20 bucks to get some quality insight on the minds of you blackhat geniuses.

    You guys are the best of the best. I'm so close I can taste it. I'm willing to learn, I'm just trying to catch up.
     
  2. gun-shy315

    gun-shy315 Regular Member Premium Member

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    What happened w/ the keywords you ranked for? Did they bring you any traffic or CB sales?

    gun-shy
     
  3. afallison

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    no. they didn't unfortunately. The site is a little over week old and like I said, has hardly any backlinks (one to be specific). The keyword is kind of lame and I really just did it for testing purposes to see if I could actually get a site indexed and up in one of the top spots.

    when the you search the keyword, there are 88 million results and about 60k using phrasing in the google keyword tool. However, the kw tool only shows 2200 searches per month, so i was never really expecting anything huge. But my traffic has been extremely low - 10-15 hits a day. A few hops, but no conversions.

    I was going to test out the landing page as adsense with this #1 site now that it's indexed and see what happens in the next week, but I'm trying to go for more competitive keywords in the future, which is the reason i posted this in the first place.

    To be honest, I can't write content for shit. I purchased a headset and used dragon to try and spin my content while reading an article related to my niche. I basically read an article and as i was speaking it i changed words around to make it my own. I considered outsourcing article writing, but I wasn't sure how necessary it was since my autoblog produced results with no spinner plugins leeched straight from an RSS feed.

    I'm wondering if I just need to be more patient and see what happens in the next few weeks - like another week or two and see if my traffic increases, regardless of conversions. then slowly add more adsense until it is the main attraction of the page.

    anymore help would be appreciated.
     
  4. gun-shy315

    gun-shy315 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Are you in a HOT niche that people like to spend money or are you just in a niche? Write articles and submit to Ezine linking to your site. Get 30-35 out there as soon as you can and make sure your keywords are commercial or "buying" keywords. Search for "link wheel" on this forum and take a look at that. Re-write your articles and submit to other article directories and utilize web 2.0. Link everything back to your site.
     
  5. afallison

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    im in just a niche :(. Is there anyway to semi automate the web 2.0 process. I've been using senuke for creating accounts, but im confused on what to actually put on those blog accounts. alos, am i bookmarking every single url from every single blog with every single post.

    I know i've read ways to automate bookmarking and pinging, but i have to go back through the labyrinth of posts to try and find the tools i would need.

    You say utilize web 2.0, thats where im lost if you cant tell. what exactly am i utilizing. blogs, bookmarks, article submissions, or all of them? if you could give me a post to reread I would be more than happy because I'm missing something.

    I can build the site, I just cant get the backlinks and traffic I want. More importantly, I want ot automate things as best I can. I want to be done with a money site, linkwheel, bookmarking, everything in a few hours. Am I just dreaming or is it possible?
     
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    Hi afallison,

    I have some experience with both adsense and affiliate schemes. With adsense, I found that traffic volume is the key factor. I was able to make $2000/month by utilizing traffic driving tactics that brought me 20,000 unique visitors per day. One such tactic was using google trends - updated every hour, it shows the sharpest spikes in searches on google. I quickly rewrote/scraped out an article on a trend topic and posted - the lack of competition brought bucketloads of traffic. I did this on a news site, which had about 400 good backlinks. But to be honest I dont see how you can get good adsense cash fast without a strong domain and a killer tactic. I hear autoblogging isn't the dream ticket it sppears to be in this respect.

    As for backlinks - the amount you need to build depends solely on the competition. In my current niche, the average no. of backlinks for my google page 1 competition is 10,000. The number 1 site has 106,000 backlinks. Big numbers, but it's not so bad as it sounds because building backlinks is the easiest part of IM.

    First off, there are 2 types of backlink - NoFollow and ********. You will need to tell tham apart, do this by downloading SEO for Firefox. It highlights all NoFollow links.

    Google is constantly sending its spiders over the web to find new sites. Let's say they visit a PR6 you have left your link on in the comments. If the link is NoFollow, the spider will....erm, not follow it. It won't even find your site. If the link is ********, the spider will find its way to your site, and report back to big G that a nice fat PR6 site seems to think you are important. This is the main way to rise in SERPs.

    There are several barriers to getting a good backlink, the main ones being NoFollow and comment moderation. But there are plenty of sites out there that are both ******** and unmoderated. Here's the method that I have been having success with.

    Find a site that has been heavily spammed. Take one of the urls being "promoted", put it into backlinkwatch . com and have a look at the results. You may have to try a few sites before you get someone who has been using blackhat methods, but eventually you will succeed. What you now have is a huge list of sites where the spammer has already been able to leave their crappy link, so we're looking at a list of non moderated ******** sites.

    When you find an easy target, look for markers such as "powered by pligg" or inurl:whatever to put into google to find more easy sites like the one you just found.

    When I started doing this, I was floundering in wordpress and blogger blogs despairing about ******** and scrounging for PR0 links. After using this method, I've got more places to get links than i know what to do with.

    Final thought: PR0 and PR - sites are not worth your time.

    Happy Spamming
     
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    And you are dreaming - unless you're a genius (you may be who knows!) or the luckiest man alive, you are going to have to do some work on this. But still a hell of a lot less than you would working 9-5 :)
     
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    very helpful post micallef. i actually had forgot about google trends. I went and took a look and found 3 spikes in my niche!

    I like the idea of keeping content unique. are you suggesting building a generic site where basically any content goes. not necessarily one long tail keyword, but hundreds, even thousands as trends update? then build GOOD backlinks and keep up with trends and see if google can pick up on it? interesting.

    this would obviously take time and work, but the end result is what im looking for.

    Thanks a million. Any other suggestions as this has my head spinning.
     
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    also, any tips to automate bookmarking for the new trend posts? this would be extremely helpful as all i would need to do is do a unique post with the newest trend and mass bookmark, ping and hope google picks up and sends the traffic my way.

    this is assuming my domain is high up and has decent backlinks to provide credibility to the site.
     
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    if you are giving the CB sales / CJ sales or any other ANY other source of income for the adsense earnings you must be simply crazy . I don't say adsense isn't good ... is good for traffic which you think will never convert into sales / leads ... BUT ... if you can manage to go on top of serps for any of your target keywords you must be simply crazy to think you will earn better from adsense lol :)