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Need some writing advice for non-native English speaker

Discussion in 'Copywriting & Sales Persuasion' started by drvo, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. drvo

    drvo Registered Member

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    Hello people

    Here on the forum there are lots of people who has good knowledge and command of English,
    but they are from non-English speaking countries.

    I want to get into writing, but don't know how to master English language, to be able to write
    and to be paid for it?

    Any suggestion, how to practice it?

    Thank you
     
  2. shifubill

    shifubill Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I was an English teacher and editor, and the only way to do it is to practice. You really need a good teacher to work with you. Compared with a lot of non-native speakers, you're English isn't bad based on your OP. Maybe just write a few articles, get a Grammarly account, and see how it looks.
     
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  3. Gereral_Zod

    Gereral_Zod Registered Member

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    Find your nearest British Council office/library. They have some good courses to help you get started.
     
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  4. Shole

    Shole Registered Member

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    Go find a tutor, learn a lot of grammar and read a lot of English books, and then just practice. Offer your services for free and ask for a review, after it correct the mistakes mentioned in the review and then, then just sell :D
     
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    Eternal1912 Power Member

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    I would suggest finding a tutor in a British school or Council in your town. After you gain some confidence, you can start writing on different freelancing platforms such as Upwork, Fiverr & Freelancer. They don't pay much, but it's a great way to create a portfolio, gain some contacts and experience. A good idea would be to find an editor to check your articles before you send them. This way, you can improve your language based on his comments and edits. There are also numerous tutorials and guides online you need to check as you learn. As @shifubill recommends, Grammarly is a great service that you will need!
     
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  6. drvo

    drvo Registered Member

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    Thank you guys for the answers.

    Unfortunately, I'm living in a village and there is no British school or Council.

    I have to focus on learning it online.

    Searching for some language exchange partners(on online websites), but without success.Will not give up the search.
     
  7. Mindful Media

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    While you might not have a British council location near you, there is an online site that has many of the resources the council offers. You can find it by just googling British council (learn english). Having discussions with a native speaker especially a tutor would be quite helpful too. Trying to read English novels and literature aloud would also help improve your capabilities. If you do all of this, Grammarly should help you figure out a lot of the grammatical logistics of English in your writing.
     
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  8. Gofobu

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    Here's my advice: I'm not a native English speakers yet stuff I wrote made millions.
    Get what is called a "swipe file". These are old, successful ads and you can find
    them here on the site as well. Then go ahead and copy them by hand.

    It's a pain in the ass and you'll not really become a better English speaker but
    if you want to learn how to write well, that's the way to do it, especially in your
    situation.
     
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    If you want to get better at writing, READ a lot.

    Seriously.

    The more you read others' work, the more you get a feel for clear and effective writing.

    It also helps to keep reviewing grammar fundamentals as well as sentence construction mechanics.

    It takes PASSION and TIME to become a good writer.
     
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  10. drvo

    drvo Registered Member

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    How long did you practice in that way?

    And do you now write by yourself or you need an English editor?
     
  11. drvo

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    This is interesting. So, maybe I have to re-learn the grammar again!?
     
  12. roguerabbit

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    What everyone said ... read and practice writing. You would not really say it, but English is only my second language ( when I write you would not notice at all, but when I talk you can hear it sometimes and I'm not talking just about an accent )
     
  13. Gofobu

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    To get REALLY good...2+ years of daily practice.
    Overnight miracles happen only in advertising.

    I write 100% myself and don't require any editor.
     
  14. drvo

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    That's huge man! :) You did a great job.

    Will give it a shot to write everyday. And also to read more, but not just articles or adverts, but some novels too.
     
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    Practice practice and practice, get someone to correct you each time you write for practice.
     
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    Familiarize yourself with the English language first. You can start off by reading books, watching movies and listening to songs in English. Further more be keen on developing conversation with people who are fluent in English to be more acquainted over you command over the English language. Later start writing on a regular basis to improve your creativity of writing content. Start a blog and promote your contents in a proper manner. Once you progress and create a niche in your area of interest automatically the money will follow as more and more people recognize your work.
     
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    I really recommend you to practice by writing different types of articles and then review the grammar.

    Don't expect much of a change in a few days, but in time if you are consistent you will see the improvement.
     
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    Practice does wonders man. Having someone to correct your mistakes, give you honest feedback, and constructive criticism will surely speed up the process of learning. That is why many people here advise you to attend a British Council, where you will get proper tutoring.

    Keep in mind that learning how to write correctly is not learning how to write. There is a difference between just knowing how to use grammar, punctuation and sentence structuring properly and writing high-quality content that sells. Writing is so much more than just grammar.
     
  19. imjs

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    Use grammarly.com :)
     
  20. CyberGenie

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    I recommend you subscribe to one of those popular English Learning Youtube channels.. They teach you everything from Accents to Grammar to Conversations. Juat give it a try. :)