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Need some help with my computer

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by flexnds, Apr 24, 2011.

  1. flexnds

    flexnds Power Member

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    Ok, well I'm starting off by saying next time I get a get computer I am doing a custom build, none of this mickey mouse best buy shit.. Got that out..

    Here is the computer I am using and all details I have

    HP Pavilion Elite e9220y PC
    Processor: AMD Phenom II X4
    8GB DDR3
    1 Terabyte hard drive

    Lately I can't even run camtasia or any other heavy programs. I believe my computer is getting too hot because the fan kicks on full blast and then the program shuts down.. I forgot to take the temp at this time.

    So, to fix the problem I went out and bought the corsair liquid cooler.. It looks like it will fit just fine over the processor, however, the fan and radiator are way too big to fit inside the cases.. So, now I have two choices.. Either put the piece of shit back together and deal with it until I can buy a new comp in a few months or fix it. I would rather fix it, but this would mean I need to find cases to fit this mother board, which I am afraid is going to be a nightmare. On top of that, just about everything in these stock hp cases are riveted together and i am not sure I can even get the face plates off that match the mother board for this. And, if i do get the face plates off, will they fit the new cases. How customizable are these cases..

    Any help would be greatly appreciated..

    P.S. Please don't tell me to g**gle this. I have been searching this for atleast 4 hours now and I really don't know exactly what to look for, I don't even know what cases to look for..

    The thing that really pissed me off made me go buy this cooling system is because I spent 5 hours editing a really cool video.. I was almost done and camtasia shut down and did not save my work..
     
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  2. Bross

    Bross Senior Member

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    You have 2 problems.

    First - You bought HP. HP sucks. I have had a few of them and they all suck, crash and eventually burn.

    Heat:

    Open the vents and clean the fans.
    I own a Lenovo and I need to do this at least twice a month. Laptops get warm because dust gathers on the exit area. (PC's also.. but less).

    Download CPUID monitor and check your temperatures. Mine can get to 90c before cleaning. Today I don't let it go beyond 65c and just clean it once in 2 weeks. If that doesn't work it's hard to help... But again - You use HP. HP is a terrible manufacturer.

    You will notice a lot of dust where the exit is (Not necessarily on fans).
    Clean and check.
     
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  3. DEEP SINGHAL

    DEEP SINGHAL BANNED BANNED

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    use coolpad desktop of about only 50$ buy it from any cyber shop this may help to control your temp of hp pc
     
  4. bertbaby

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    I have had no problems with HP but that said anybody can get a lemon. Just curious but are you overclocking? Does the memory have a coolant solution? How many sticks do you have and can you pull one and run it to rule out a memory issue rather than a CPU problem? How about the exhaust fan from the case?
     
  5. javedrehman56

    javedrehman56 Regular Member

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    agree did you tried them?
     
  6. flexnds

    flexnds Power Member

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    No, I have not did any overclocking..

    There is no fan near the memory..

    Do you guy think going through the trouble of new computer cases is worth it... I know it's gonna be a pain but I can spare another 130$ and I have the tech guy from our office is willing to help me out tomorrow morning..
     
  7. GoldenGlovez

    GoldenGlovez Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Buying a liquid cooling system was unnecessary unless you are running overclocked. Also, most people typically mount the fan/radiator system on the top of the case not inside it.

    You should purchase a new CPU Heatsink/Fan with higher RPM and good quality bearings. Make sure to apply new thermal paste when attaching the new heatsink/fan assembly. Good cleaning inside the case is very important, dust creates a huge amount of heat retention inside and needs to be removed regularly for peak performance. Make sure your case fans are blowing air outside of the case and not inwards.

    Edit: I just reread the original post. The program or the computer shuts down? If the program is crashing it's most likely not heat related.
     
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  8. nicofan

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    try downloading a program called "aida64". this will monitor your temperatures. also check that the heatsink and the cpu fan are sitting tight on the cpu (did you use thermal paste?).

    To find a case that fits your motherboard. There is a standard called ATX. If it says that on the motherboard and the case it should fit without problems.

    good luck and please post the temperatures...
     
  9. Mokodoki

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    This. If your program is shutting down, it's most likely something software related. If you are overheating, generally the entire system goes down.

    Run a stress test on your computer and see what type of heat is actually being generated. Liquid cooling sounds like overkill and I don't think it's relevant to the situation at hand.

    As mentioned already, motherboards are pretty standard. However, I'd be sure what your problems are before you jump into buying unnecessary equipment.
     
  10. flexnds

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    The corsair system is supposed to intalled inside

    [youtube]PUxoFiFuS_g[/youtube]

    I found this on hp's website as the model of the motherboard H-RS880-uATX

    Since I do have the black edition amd processor I wouldn't mind doing some overclocking if I manage to get the cases changed with the liquid cooling.

    I guess all i can do is run to fry's electronics in the morning and bring my computer and see what cases will require the least modifications.. If I can't find anything that will work then i will take goldenglovez and purchase a better cpu fan..

    Also, I do have AMD overdrive installed on that computer, but i have it taken apart right now... I should have been monitoring temperature better..

    Anyhow, I'll post an update on this in tomorrow..
     
  11. flexnds

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    Update:

    Alright, I have made my decision.. I'm gonna put this piece of garbage hp back together and order new cases, new processor, new motherboard and transfer everything else from this old hp since all of the other stuff is decent..

    I just odered the AMD Phenom II X6 1100T from new egg, I have the corsair h50 liquid cooler and I'll get the motherboard and cases for this bad boy on friday..

    What motherboard would you guys recommend for this system?
     
  12. bertbaby

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    Not sure but checkout Tom's Hardware, those boys do some crazy builds and maybe you can get some ideas from them.
     
  13. flexnds

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    UPDATE

    Just finished building my computer.

    [youtube]DQ1iy-54BF8[/youtube]

    My First Computer Build
    Asus Crosshair Formula IV
    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
    ASUS ATI Radeon HD 6870
    Corsair H50 CPU Cooler
    Corsair XMS3
    HAF X Cooler Master
    Thermaltake 775w PSU

    overclocked to 4140mhz
     
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  14. Hostwinds

    Hostwinds Power Member UnGagged Attendee Enterprise Member

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    Open the case up idk hows yours open but pull the part off for you to do maintenance so it wide open, then put a big box fan aimed at the open case, cheap and effective :)