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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by TriviaHD, Mar 27, 2015.

  1. TriviaHD

    TriviaHD Newbie

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    I am 17 and for the past few weeks I have been thinking on which programming field I should to get into, either web development or software development, I seem to enjoy both of them but I am unsure on which one to choose so I was thinking that you guys may help me out.
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    Option A: Software development
    Apply for a computer science degree
    Learn C++ / Java / C#
    Either join an Enterprise or a startup.

    Option B: Website Development
    Apply for a website development course
    Learn Ruby on Rails / JS etc
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    I currently live in UK, I have thoughts of moving to USA as developers are paid more there.
    Also, if you don't know, Ruby on Rails developers are in high demand at the moment thus they get paid almost the same as software developers.

    Things which I look for in a job:
    Flexibility (So i will have plenty of time for IM)
    Satisfaction
    Low(er) stress levels
    Pay
    Future-proof (Can i rely on this position in the long-term?)

    I hope to get some insights from people which are already in the industry.
    Thanks guys :D
     
  2. Apricot

    Apricot Administrator Staff Member Moderator

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    I would say join a startup in London and do software. More pay and more demand. Look here: http://workinstartups.com.

    I'm may not be right, but I think you'd have a better time in London, than moving to the US. Whatever you do though, just make sure you know what you're doing, have a good plan and research before hand.
     
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    oscilay Regular Member

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    Software development all the way.
     
  4. TriviaHD

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    Thanks for the reply.
    I was thinking that startups would be better for me, also do you have any idea how much tax you would have to pay in the US? Here in UK its about 40% included with everything.
    Also, what programming language is most used in start ups?
     
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    I vote software development too, I'm not an expert on either field (I sure wish I was) but software seems more interesting and versatile.
     
  7. TeKn1qu3z

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    Software development still working, but there are more people in these fields. It's all depend upon your brain and put the right codes for programming.
     
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    Thanks for all your input guys, this helped me.
    I decide to stick to software development :D
     
  9. Resolution10

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    Man, keep it below 10k, utilize expenses and bonuses, spread it around relatives. You don't have to pay these bloodhounds if you're just starting out.
     
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    TriviaHD Newbie

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    Yeah exactly lol.


    Thanks :)
     
  11. jass11

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    If you are good at programming and maths then
    I think you should have a look at Data Scientist as career option.
     
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    Solid advice here.
    Data scientists will be the fastest growing (and highest paid) group of people in the space. And - it's not even about pay, really. If I had to do a 'job', and I wasn't too lazy to study, I'd go down a path like that simply because it's so damn interesting, and even fun!
     
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    Software development. Website development is cheap and doesn't teach you hardcore concepts.

    The best thing I ever did for my career was working with startups. It ruined me for bigger companies even though I've worked with them too, but I will explain what a startup will do for you compared to a big company.

    With a big company, the salary and benefits are there. It's a cush job. You get to shuffle around responsibility (everyone does at big companies such as google) and tell people "this isn't my job.. you need to talk to x team." This makes working for a big company kinda cushy, but you become just one of everyone else in IT.

    A startup will teach you business, which is the key to standing out in interviews. Startups don't have time or resources for you to shuffle responsibility. You'll sit in business meetings and understand and witness owners and very smart people build a business from the ground up. You'll implement these strategies and get to engineer how it's done. You'll have a manager but you won't have the nonsense of agile and micromanagers and all the bullshit status reports and paperwork and spreadsheets that comes with engineering with a big company. Startups don't care about that bullshit. They get ideas, and you get to put in your 2 cents and implement them. It's invaluable to understand business as an engineer.

    So, if you are entrepreneurial and have ambition, go for a startup. If you want to just walk in, punch a clock and take a salary for having just a job to have a job, go for a big company. Having the big company on your resume also helps a lot to get in with other big companies.