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Need Serious PBN Advice

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TrollDad, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. TrollDad

    TrollDad Regular Member

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    Hi all, I have recently built some pbn(30 domains), the metric is around: DA20, TF20, decent TF/CF RATE, clean profile

    however, I use this pbn to rank one of sites that has keywords ranking at page 2 to page 3, no any result (up or down) for more than 1 month. Now I am fully confused and have no idea how to continue. I PMed some reputable members here but they rarely replied me:(

    some questions I always can't be sure:

    1. domain need to be indexed by google before I actually register?
    2. minimum content amount before placing link to moneysite?

    and I have bought some services (for other sites) but they are not good as before.

    Looking for some advice from who has built decent PBN, really appreciate.
     
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  2. IceHD

    IceHD Power Member

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    1. Index status is a must
    2. I try to post 5 posts before a link.

    Don't make a confusion between PublicBN and PrivateBN. Having related content on the sites help a lot more, but that means higher costs (domains, content, hosting).
     
  3. laur.laurix

    laur.laurix Power Member

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    Did u linked from all 30 domains at once? U have to drip feed them and mix them with other forms of baclinks and social signal in order to simulate a viral behavior. Also if ur keyword is in a medium to high comp niche, 30 backlinks are not gonna help u much.
     
  4. futurestunner

    futurestunner BANNED BANNED

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    TrollDad talking serious?

    WTF?
     
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  5. FBGuru

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    The domain doesn't have to be indexed before you build a site but it should after you launch the site.

    There's no limit on how much content you have on the PBN before adding the links. You can insert link even on your first post with a 600 word article.

    Having backlinks from all these 30 domains should definitely have some fluctuations on your SERPs so you're missing out some piece in the puzzle.

    Are you sure you hosted all these 30 domains on different IPs and on different hosts?

    Are all these 30 sites Indexed by Google?

    How good is your onsite SEO and how competitive is your keyword?
     
  6. john1444

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    PBN just like every other SEO methods needs to be done professionally otherwise you won't get any result.

    I have heard many people say SEO is dead, PBN is dead, Guest blogging not working e.t.c but they all depends on your approach.

    For PBN to work, you need quality domains. PR isn't updated on toolbar anymore so you need to look more at the quality of links linking to a site. Besides, PR have been faked for years. How are you not sure the PR4 you have is just a worthless one.

    Don't use SEO hosting.
    Unique content

    It's not something that can be discussed in one sitting.
     
  7. TrollDad

    TrollDad Regular Member

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    yeah..it happens sometimes
     
  8. TrollDad

    TrollDad Regular Member

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    I know i am not a pro...

    i don't care PR that much as other people said, but it just a plus

    hostings are from different provider, no seo hosting used.

    yeah, it is all unique content bought from BHW
     
  9. TrollDad

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    thanks ur reply, got some valued info from your previous replies.

    domains are all come from different ABC class, only 2 domains are not indexed by Google.

    do you mind to get PM from me for further question?
     
  10. TrollDad

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    yeah I dripped feed them in 10-14 days, competition should not be that hard since I hit #15 after adding some web 2 links.
     
  11. FBGuru

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    Sure. Go ahead. If the site in concern is the one which tanked after the blog post links as you shared on this screenshot, the problem is not with the PBN's but your existing link profile.

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  12. john1444

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    If that's the case you need to examine your domain and setup.

    John

     
  13. bartosimpsonio

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    1. Yes. The links must be indexed.

    2. I'd say at least 10 quality articles before you insert the first link. And don't insert a second link ;)
     
  14. TrollDad

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    no, they r not same.
     
  15. FBGuru

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    Well, then PM me your moneysite url as well as the PBN's list and I'll see what I can do for you.
     
  16. TrollDad

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    1. I mean if expired domain need to be indexed before registering

    2. seriously?
     
  17. francis1017

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    As for my experience.

    1. Ofcourse the domain must be indexed. Backlinks that are not indexed by google are useless.
    2. I usually put first an article without links and then the second would be good. On some of my PBN I put links already on first post.
     
  18. ritesh

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    - Were all the PBN domains registered on same date?
    -What was the previous link profile of money site and website age?
    - Did you 301 all the 404 pages to homepage in PBN

    Expired domains does take some time to pass on link juice as they loose the age factor. But generally in 1 month it starts showing up in rankings.
    Most likely you have tripped the link velocity filter and it shall bounce back soon. PM me site and will take a look.
     
  19. FBGuru

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    I just had a look at OP's PBN and the problem is with the content on the network sites. They're irrelevant to his money site and the link is plugged in on random paragraphs. The articles are completely out of context and not relevant to the link. Never do this mistake if you're building a PBN. Treat them as if it's your money site and post relevant content with a contextual keyword/brand name anchor text.
     
  20. SYKing

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    Can you pm your website so I will have a look on those blogs.