Need Investors for start up.
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swedishsteel
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whats your question?
SilverSultan
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Ok I have a general question that will not affect your plan, what genre of Music is it? Rap, Punk Rock, Pop, Trance, Techno? as every music genre is different both in competition, and size of the market. I am interested btw,
swedishsteel
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Right now we're rap, pop, rnb. Branch out into others soon too.
swedishsteel
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We're gonna bite the bullet and take the risk for anyone that wants to hear our music please go to http://www.prettyboybeats.com there are 99 songs and beats uploaded for your listening
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Which mod told you that?
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the website has been suspended, o really dude come on........
swedishsteel
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Its back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. Dont believe it if you dont want to. $5000 is not a small amount of money. Thats 10 months of rent on a studio apartment down here.
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Bigbuddy he said "No need for any info. Just post your thread and if it is good, members will contact you."
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I'm gonna keep it 100% real I love guys who get into music but from a independent stand point i noticed you said your a few stacks away from what u needed, but unless u have $75,000 = $100,000 to promote 1 artist I don't see how this is gonna work. The problem is not creating music, or studio time...it's marketing that gonna eat up 85% of the budget you should break down exactly what u plan to do with the money stage for stage and the projection.
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Funny you lay it all out like that GreenGoblin, you are 100% on the money. There is a guy out there right now on kickstarter that is raising money to give seminars on exactly what you stated:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lorenw/the-who-what-when-where-why-and-how-of-fundraising
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Im gonna keep this 100% real, you dont see how this is gonna work because you have no idea what we're doing. The only problem we've had is the amount. Most people that have contacted me dont have the money we need. I wouldnt be surprised if you knew the marketers, they are on this forum. Unfortunately most info on this project is confidential and only potential investors who contact me on skype will have any idea whats going on. Our manager is the head A&R at Def Jam and is also the angel investor. We're in a good position for what we're about to do. Going to exploit them.
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you do know Def Jam is 80 million in debt right? but that besides the point that's another story I'm not gonna trash your thread im just going to give u hardcore facts. A&R's only means u have contacts to walk in the door 90% of A&R's can't pull the trigger and get u a deal even if u do get a deal that doesn't mean u will get a distribution, so throwing DEFJAM out there like it means something it doesn't just means u know know someone at defjam i do music as well my retaining law firm is GreenBerg Traurig so when u throw out names throw out names like that people who can move walls not A&R's anyway regarding the budget here's what u looking at this is just advertising 1 single the average artist does 3 singles so come up with a budget based on those numbers and x it by 3.
Optional mailing labor for CD..........................$1.00 each
Optional mailing labor for CD+vinyl....................$1.50 each
Optional BDS tracking..................................$1000
Optional Mediabase tracking............................$1000
Optional R&R Indicator tracking........................$1000
Optional Quarterbacking................................$10000
College Radio (8 weeks)
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Jazz, Blues, Folk, Americana, Piano (up to 100 stations)...$ 2500
CMJ charting for URBAN, metal, electronic, jazz, world, AAA, (250 stations), or non-
charting for alternative.................................$ 2500
CMJ Top200 Charting (up to 500 stns; incl extra phones)....$ 4000
CMJ Top200 Charting (up to 700 stns; incl extra phones
and CMJ core stations)...................................$ 6000
Regional (non charting, any genre) (50 stations)...........$ 2000
Commercial Specialty Mixshow (8 weeks)
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National Mixshow (BDS Level - 100 stations)........................$15,000
Mixshow (up to 70 stations, college & commercial)..........$ 6000
Dance Mixshow Charting (100 stations)......................$ 4000
Regional (non-charting) (10 stations)......................$ 6000
Commercial Regular Rotation for AC, Pop, R&B (8 weeks)
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75 stations (small markets)................................$ 4000
150 stations (small markets)...............................$ 7000
R&R indicator stage 1 (small markets - 10 stations)........$15000
R&R indicator stage 2 (medium & small markets - 25 stations).$30000
BDS Promotion (7-10 stations)........................$15000
FMQB charting (100+ stations, medium and small)............$20000
R&R CHR/Pop Indicator (medium and small markets - 50 stations)..$40000
Regional (non-charting) (10-15 stations)....................$8000
FMQB AC tracking (optional)................................$ 400/mo
High-Level AC Promotion (includes field staff).............$20000
(additional)
High-Level Pop/Urban Promotion (includes field staff)............$40000
(additional)
High-Level station giveaways or commercials (unrated mkt)..$ 200/station
High-Level station giveaways or commercials (small mkt)....$ 500/station
High-Level station giveaways or commercials (medium mkt)...$ 1500/station
Commercial Regular Rotation for Rock, Alt, Urban (8 weeks)
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R&R indicator stage 1 (small markets - 10 stations).........$ 15000
R&R indicator stage 2 (medium & small markets - 25 stations)..$ 30000
Regional (non-charting) (10-15 stations)....................$8000
BDS Promotion (7-10 stations)........................$15000
High-Level Promotion Urban (includes field staff)................$40000
(additional)
High-Level station giveaways or commercials (unrated mkt)..$ 200/station
High-Level station giveaways or commercials (small mkt)....$ 500/station
High-Level station giveaways or commercials (medium mkt)...$ 1500/station
Commercial Regular Rotation for AAA or Smooth Jazz (8 weeks)
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50 station special (medium and small)......................$ 8,000
FMQB / R&R charting (75 stations, all sizes)...............$20,000
Regional (non-charting) (20 stations)......................$ 2500
FMQB AAA tracking (optional)...............................$ 200/mo
High-Level Promotion (includes field staff)................$10000
(additional)
Commercial Regular Rotation for Country (8 weeks)
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Small market non-charting (50 small stations)..............$ 2500
Music Row charting (80 small stations).....................$ 4000
R&R indicator charting (75 medium stations)................$ 7500
High-Level Promotion (includes field staff)................$10000
(additional)
Gospel or Christian Regular Rotation (8 weeks)
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100 stations (all sizes, charting).........................$ 4000
200 stations (all sizes, charting..........................$ 6000
Regional (non-charting) (20 stations)......................$ 2500
R&R tracking for Christian (optional)......................$ 200/mo
High-Level Christian Promotion (includes field staff)......$ 5000
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Television Promo, you need to contact comcast for your area this was the area for Richmond VA when i lived there
Comcast Richmond is set up in 3 areas:
Richmond: South (Covering Chesterfield )
Richmond: North (Covering the West-end/Fan/Hanover)
Richmond: Tri-Cities (Covering Petersburg/Colonial Heights/ Hopewell )
We also have an interconnect which covers all 3 zones on one contract:
Rates for :30 second spots for each are listed below for M-Su 5a-12m
NETWORK SOUTH NORTH TRI -CITIES INTERCONNECT
BET $23 $41 $11 $75
VH1 $6 $8 $3 $17
MTV $14 $23 $7 $44
Rates for :30 second spots for each are listed below for M-Su 3p-12m
NETWORK SOUTH NORTH TRI -CITIES INTERCONNECT
BET $44 $76 $21 $141
VH1 $10 $14 $5 $29
MTV $28 $46 $14 $88
Now add this up for 30 days a month and how many x u want your commercial to run on TV to advertise the artist for the album release date.
I mean if your using itunes as a source to get numbers up for a distribution to say hey we will distribute this aritst that can work however u need something out of this world to make it go viral, and u need a massive network and i mean massive something like developing 30 iphone apps games, etc giving them away for free and using those as a avenue of promoting a artist if u can get 5-10 million people using the games or apps if not then you will be forced to use radio as a avenue for marketing and advertising and its not cheap look at the numbers...it's not easy my dude, im currently in the same position but building a network and knowing exactly what your doing is the first start. If you don't have a network online where u can reach consumers u will fail simple as that.
If you want me to sit down and really show u how to market a artist, I will but more then likely u already think you know it all but here's the info free.
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hitman247
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We are waiting OP.
swedishsteel
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DOnt get me wrong we've been in this industry for over a decade. I know what you're saying but you have no idea what we're doing and you're just assuming. I appreciate the help, i really do. But like i said a lot of info is confidential and only for people who actually want to invest in the next big thing. We have the offline market down and have been doing it for the past decade. Its just recently we saw how important the internet really was and now here we are. We were contacted by teddy riley to hang tight when he gets back from paris he wants to cut us a deal. If we have 100k+ fans from this campaign hes going to give us a bigger cut right? Fuck it if they're in debt, they're still handing out signing bonus's like no tomorrow if you have 100K+ fans. hoping to find the next lady gaga or michael jackson. It really kills me that i cant tell you who the marketer is, he is on here and wishes to be kept a secret from non investors. We personally dont want everyone here blowing him up asking for his work for their own personal use. If you can understand where im coming from. If you saw our plan youd see we're focusing on "untraditional" things we didnt focus on before. This is an expansion of the company to focus mainly on the internet. We sold 5000 copies of a cd purely through word of mouth on the streets of miami during summer. Our profit was less that $2000 because of supply cost and time spent in the studio. But because of that we were featured on the radio with that artist. If you saw our plan, already knew what we're doing and what we have already done you would understand more. I dont want to brag but ive been in sessions with ne-yo, wiz khalifa and katy perry. Katy perry gave me the idea to become an internet sensation first. Look at her Album list, the first one did poorly. And then she became an internet sensation with one song. Now she's Katy Fucking Perry and Dr.LUke(the producer) has really done an amazing job. I would like to do this campaign before the bigger labels final come to a solution with the new internet model for the industry. They're also in debt because they give in to greedy artists. You dont need $2m to record an album. Ive seen what they do with half of it and ill tell you its not anything that is benefitting the album. Managers are doing a poor job of artist development and letting them be arrogant kings that just spend money on the most expensive shit with the least quality. Good quality is what we're achieving and its a shame to see all of this great talent go to waste over greed.
One example we're going by is Kreayshawn. She got 11m views before she finally signed a contract with Columbia. $3m contract for one album. She wasnt approached by columbia first, they just offered her the most.
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