Need help with email marketing

Orozuz

Orozuz

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Hey guys, what's up. I've been trying for a while, to make some money online. 0 results. I don't have much money, so I can't buy ads or stuff like that, so maybe that's why. Maybe I just suck. Who knows. The thing is, after trying Paigham bot, to reach potential customers via contact pages, and not having a single conversion, I think it's time to try something new.

I was kinda reluctant to start sending emails to scraped accounts (not opt-in), because I thought about it being illegal and stuff, but fuck that honestly.

So, being the noob I am, can someone help me with some tips on how to start? Like, email marketing without opt-in for dummies. I don't know about sending bulk email, what services to use, if I should just waste my money paying someone on Fiverr to send them for me, or can I do it by myself, etc.

Any info you'd consider, a noob should know, to start with this, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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You need a strategy first. Sending emails is only a small part of that.
 
dimitrivisser said:
You need a strategy first. Sending emails is only a small part of that.
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I have a part of it. I have a way to scape emails from Ig, Linkedin, Twitter, etc. I can scrape +1k mails per day. That side of the strategy is solved, I reckon. Next, I plan to send them a landing page, offering a free ebook. After that, having the opt-in ready, I'll start sending CPA offers, or affiliate programs with recurring revenue, in the same niche as the free ebook.

From my perspective (almost 0 experience), I have somewhat of a plan, but, my problem comes to sending the first emails. After the first group, I'll use Getresponse, but how do I send so many emails before that.
 
convert kit allows 1,000 subscribers and let you make a free landing page with opt in
 
You're not gonna get far with get response or MailChimp or any of the conventional mailers if you're blasting scraped emails with very high bounce.

Have you considered how you'll clean your scraped list?
Just saying, you might get booted out on your first campaign
 
digital_dan said:
You're not gonna get far with get response or MailChimp or any of the conventional mailers if you're blasting scraped emails with very high bounce.

Have you considered how you'll clean your scraped list?
Just saying, you might get booted out on your first campaign
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I've been reading about, services like DeBounce or ZeroBounce, but, I don't know if they would be useful for that.
 
Apply for amazon ses. 50k sending limit, you need a vcc for this + a convincing reason when applying to get out of sandbox
 
iCommunicate said:
Apply for amazon ses. 50k sending limit, you need a vcc for this + a convincing reason when applying to get out of sandbox
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Awesome, thanks mate, will definitely look into it
 
iCommunicate said:
Apply for amazon ses. 50k sending limit, you need a vcc for this + a convincing reason when applying to get out of sandbox
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Amazon is strict. If your bounce rate is high (5% or more), or you get too much spam complains (must stay below 0.5%) they will block you in a second. You can be sure that this ill happen if you send emails to scraped addresses.
 
Orozuz said:
I have a part of it. I have a way to scape emails from Ig, Linkedin, Twitter, etc. I can scrape +1k mails per day. That side of the strategy is solved, I reckon. Next, I plan to send them a landing page, offering a free ebook. After that, having the opt-in ready, I'll start sending CPA offers, or affiliate programs with recurring revenue, in the same niche as the free ebook.

From my perspective (almost 0 experience), I have somewhat of a plan, but, my problem comes to sending the first emails. After the first group, I'll use Getresponse, but how do I send so many emails before that.
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I mentioned that because you wrote that form spam did not work. I have built my business with it. If you do it well it does work.

About email...

Forget about most commercial offerings like Mailchimp. Most will not allow you to upload a list with email addresses if you cannot prove that they are opt-in adresses.

There is software you can use to put together he emails. Mailwizz is an example. This is software where you upload your email list, where you write the emails. The software will use a service like Amazon or Mailgun to send the emails. These services are not happy with spammers like us. Before sending you must clean your email list for not working addresses. This is very important. A scraped list will usually have a bounce rate of 10%. After cleaning the bounce rate will be close to 0%. With Amazon your bounce rate must stay below 5%.

Next problem are spam complaints. There is not really very much you can do about this. So you must be prepared that you will lose accounts regularly.

Some people also use gsuite, it's about $5 a month. It gives you a small advantage when sending email to gmail accounts. But once gmail finds out that you are sending spam they will put the emails in the spambox also.

When you start sending you have to start slowly, 10-20 a day, and slowly increase the numbers. I usually send a max of 200 a day for each domain I am sending with.

There are services for warming up email accounts, but it's expensive.

There are so many ways to start. Some people use normal gmail addresses. You can also use your own smtp server to send massive amounts, and accept that most will be blocked or put in a spam box. But if you send millions a day some will reach the inbox, so also that way you can reach your goal.
 
dimitrivisser said:
I mentioned that because you wrote that form spam did not work. I have built my business with it. If you do it well it does work.

About email...

Forget about most commercial offerings like Mailchimp. Most will not allow you to upload a list with email addresses if you cannot prove that they are opt-in adresses.

There is software you can use to put together he emails. Mailwizz is an example. This is software where you upload your email list, where you write the emails. The software will use a service like Amazon or Mailgun to send the emails. These services are not happy with spammers like us. Before sending you must clean your email list for not working addresses. This is very important. A scraped list will usually have a bounce rate of 10%. After cleaning the bounce rate will be close to 0%. With Amazon your bounce rate must stay below 5%.

Next problem are spam complaints. There is not really very much you can do about this. So you must be prepared that you will lose accounts regularly.

Some people also use gsuite, it's about $5 a month. It gives you a small advantage when sending email to gmail accounts. But once gmail finds out that you are sending spam they will put the emails in the spambox also.

When you start sending you have to start slowly, 10-20 a day, and slowly increase the numbers. I usually send a max of 200 a day for each domain I am sending with.

There are services for warming up email accounts, but it's expensive.

There are so many ways to start. Some people use normal gmail addresses. You can also use your own smtp server to send massive amounts, and accept that most will be blocked or put in a spam box. But if you send millions a day some will reach the inbox, so also that way you can reach your goal.
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Thank you so much for this. I'll keep all of this in mind. An additional question, do you mind sharing a bit about your methods and techniques, regarding form spam? I already have Paigham bot, and know definitely more about that, than email spam, so it would be highly convenient for me, to develop a better strategy in that area.
 
Orozuz said:
Thank you so much for this. I'll keep all of this in mind. An additional question, do you mind sharing a bit about your methods and techniques, regarding form spam? I already have Paigham bot, and know definitely more about that, than email spam, so it would be highly convenient for me, to develop a better strategy in that area.
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I use GSA Auto Website Submitter. I guess it is the same as your bot. I use Capmonster for the captcha's. I bought lists with all domain names in the world. I upload them into my website submitter. I have 2 servers at hetzner, and I use some proxies. I send spam to all domains, with an offer for a business service. The only way I target is by domain extension. I don't target domains with a country code in South America, Africa and so, because I know my service is too expensive for most businesses there.

The service I am promoting is legit, there is a 1 week trial, a chat option on the website, 24/7 support phone etc. Email is answered quickly.

My succes rate is extremely low but enough to make it worth it. I spammed most domain names in my target countries and domain names ending in .com. It gave me over a thousand clients in the past years. I am not sure about the exact number, clients come and go. But it is more than enough money to live in a nice way. And the investment is low, 2 servers, software. You can easily spend that with 1 day advertising on FB.

I get a lot of spam on contact forms on my websites too. But I very seldom get something serious. Most spam I receive there is about medicines, gambling, porn. Do our colleagues really think spamming businesses with Viagra offers works? I very very seldom get "good" serious spam with serious offers for my business. I am surprised, because I know this system works if you do it well.
 
dimitrivisser said:
I use GSA Auto Website Submitter. I guess it is the same as your bot. I use Capmonster for the captcha's. I bought lists with all domain names in the world. I upload them into my website submitter. I have 2 servers at hetzner, and I use some proxies. I send spam to all domains, with an offer for a business service. The only way I target is by domain extension. I don't target domains with a country code in South America, Africa and so, because I know my service is too expensive for most businesses there.

The service I am promoting is legit, there is a 1 week trial, a chat option on the website, 24/7 support phone etc. Email is answered quickly.

My succes rate is extremely low but enough to make it worth it. I spammed most domain names in my target countries and domain names ending in .com. It gave me over a thousand clients in the past years. I am not sure about the exact number, clients come and go. But it is more than enough money to live in a nice way. And the investment is low, 2 servers, software. You can easily spend that with 1 day advertising on FB.

I get a lot of spam on contact forms on my websites too. But I very seldom get something serious. Most spam I receive there is about medicines, gambling, porn. Do our colleagues really think spamming businesses with Viagra offers works? I very very seldom get "good" serious spam with serious offers for my business. I am surprised, because I know this system works if you do it well.
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Hi, may I know you use this sent contact form have result?
 
Tha hardest part I think is the offer you want to send. You scrape emails accordingly and clean them. I had an idea to scrape music producers from IG and resell them access to unlimited vst plugin sites, but never really got into it. Try cpa. Or create a niche dropshipping store and scrape emails of people who are into that niche.
 
I have a solution for you, let me describe step by step.

1. Go to mailjet.com and create 5 account there with 5 different emails
2. mailjet.com will allow you to send daily 200 emails
3. Split your 1000 email list into 5 part and send all of 1000 using 5 accounts
4. In your email body send them to your getresponse landing page or email grabber
5. People will subscribe using your email grabber
Finally, you can send offer email swipes to your subscribers.

Hope this help you. Feel free to ask anything if you have question.
 
Mejbahul Alam said:
I have a solution for you, let me describe step by step.

1. Go to mailjet.com and create 5 account there with 5 different emails
2. mailjet.com will allow you to send daily 200 emails
3. Split your 1000 email list into 5 part and send all of 1000 using 5 accounts
4. In your email body send them to your getresponse landing page or email grabber
5. People will subscribe using your email grabber
Finally, you can send offer email swipes to your subscribers.

Hope this help you. Feel free to ask anything if you have question.
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This is Cool but did you try it? and when did you try last?
 
You can check in the forum for many tools or weblink to handle buck email dispatch,I make use of rackspace in the past and it work well but don't know their status correct.
 
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