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Need Help eBay stealth questions!!!

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by squishsquash, Aug 30, 2014.

  1. squishsquash

    squishsquash Registered Member

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    My stealth account is running smoothly after 2 months and I just made my first few sales. Right now my PP has a VCC attached along with the other basic info so it's verified w/ no sending limits but only a $500 withdrawal limit. The $ is flowing in fine and im getting positive feedback. However, this is my first stealth account so I am confused about a number of different parts, mostly PP related. If you can answer any/all of these questions, itd be appreciated. Itd be a huge help if youve actually done anything (with either good/bad results) like im asking about and can provide firsthand experience:

    1. My first eBay account was legit and from the moment I started, the selling limit was 5k and 100 items if i remember correctly. Why is it only 1k and 10 items on the stealth? Will providing a bank acct increase that limit or are selling limits still a mystery?

    2. I've searched a lot but never found a solid answer. Here goes it: I would prefer to be able to withdraw from PP to a bank acct but the info on my PP is not true. Yes yes I understand that PP cant see anything but acct/routing #s, yet Ive heard some banks dont accept transfers from the wrong name. Actual question here: does anyone know a list of banks that will reject a transfer from an alias? I have a Bank of America checking acct that has never been linked, but the names won't line up. Anyone used Bank of America before with 2 different names?

    3. Just another idea I was playing around with. My old PP is linked, but I'm curious if anyone has ever tried to create a second stealth PP for the sole purpose of transferring money without linking accounts. Let's call my old suspended PP acct 'C,' my stealth PP acct 'A,' and a brand new stealth PP 'B.' Acct B will be used as nothing but a funnel with my money going from A-B, then waiting a couple of days or so, and then going B-C. The only account that I have a legit bank hooked up to is acct C so this would solve problems. Assuming I never cleaned out account A and waited long enough between transfers, has anyone successfully done this before? I don't mind going as far as creating a 4th account to create 2 funnels or just go A-B-D-C (sorry for the letters but im sure you get it).

    4. Will VERO items get me flat out banned first time I list them or do I just have to keep sales really small (Cartier sunglasses)?. I read the info on the vero page but there's no numbers or consequences actually listed.
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    5. How ballsy is it to request higher selling limits if I keep a notepad full of the info I fabricated in front of me when I talk to whoever on eBay? Anyone done this before with a stealth account?

    Please reply to my post underneath! Id be amazed if I was the only one new to the stealth thing that had similar questions. Youd be doing alot of us a favor if you could answer something. Thanks.
     
  2. toml3030

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    1. You get a higher limit if your info can be verified from a public database. Obviously your legit info checks out on public info and your new account is well, stealthy.

    2. Bank of America is just about the best for stealth. You could send money to your paypal funds marked to Osama bin Laden and they won't care as long as you establish a history of doing it. I have like 8 accounts at BoA and 1 was from my legit info that was banned and I have paypals attached to 7 others and have had no problems with each account.

    3. No, don't do this. PP transfer between accounts is one of the more common ways PP catches stealth accounts.

    4. Oh my god, no. Selling luxury sunglasses on a relatively new account will get you banned in hours.

    5. I've heard arguments for both ways but I'm of the school that says never give eBay employee a reason to manually go over your account, because he/she may pick up something while looking at your sales and listing history and ban your account. Long as you keep selling to the limit and get good feedbacks the accounts would increase naturally over time.

    Hope this helps....
     
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  3. jak19

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    forget the sunglasses
     
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  4. jmt123

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    Some pretty good advice already posted, but I'll add a few things.

    First off, congrats! It's certainly not easy to be successful on your very first stealth account. To lift that limit, make sure you confirm the VCC (when Paypal charges the card $1.95 and you look for a 4 digit code on the statement), and add and verify a bank account. Having an account as fully verified as possible (bank verified, VCC confirmed, phone verified, etc) helps a lot and is extremely important if you want a long lasting stealth account.

    10/$1000 limits are standard on new accounts. Your limits will increase once you prove that you're a good seller. When exactly can be a mystery. Some people can get increased within a month, for some it takes half a year (or more). There is no exact formula because everyone's account is run differently, but you can increase your chances by not having any negative things affecting your account for the first few months (no negative feedback or open cases). And if you sell mostly low risk items and sell near your limit, then you should see an increase in about 3-4 months, normally to 100/$5000 but again it varies and could take longer.


    It would be impossible to have such a list because there are far too many banks in the US (and in various other countries), and some banks work for some people but not others (hint: it greatly depends on your relationship with that bank - difficult banks are likely to deny mismatched name deposits from someone who opened an account with them last week, but someone whose been a member for 10 years may have better luck). A general guideline is: big banks don't care about having deposits in any name, medium sized banks will generally accept deposits in a variation of your name (if you real name is John Doe, a variation would be John Do or Jonathan Do), and small banks/credit unions generally will not accept either. Like everything, there will always be exceptions, however. BoA is fine with stealth, just don't suddenly open (and/or close) a lot of accounts at once.

    So you don't have a bank account attached yet? How have you been accessing your funds thus far?

    Doing that will link the accounts together. If you ever have a problem with ANY of the accounts, they would ALL likely be limited which I'm sure you don't want. It would render your 2 month old stealth ebay account virtually useless since you can't sell on eBay with a limited Paypal account.

    Most likely yes. The VERO list is a list of items that only authorized resellers are allowed to sell. Anyone else will eventually get their account suspended. Even one is too much. And keep in mind that eBay can and will remove completed auctions so even if you manage to sell one (unlikely on a new account), your account still could be suspended down the road even if you gave up selling that item, just because you sold one a few months ago. Don't do it.

    If your account has NOTHING negative or risky about it and you are 100% sure you are link free from your suspended account then it's possible to do. But since you're new to stealth I would really forget about trying this. You may have made one tiny link somewhere and the rep you talk to has the power to suspend your account on the spot. If you want to get around selling limits, just make more stealth accounts. That way you also have the advantage of having backups just in case something happens to your main stealth.
     
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  5. squishsquash

    squishsquash Registered Member

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    That's some fantastic advice thank you. Nice to know Bank of America works. As of now, I'm letting the money sit in the PP acct. I've heard if you get greedy and pull out the money as it comes in, you generally get flagged/funds withheld. I'll be sure to remove it incrementally and I should be golden!
     
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    squishsquash Registered Member

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    Ok it's ridiculous how fast these questions keep popping up...

    1. When using Entropay, does the billing address of the cardholder have to match the PP one in order to get verified or does EP not really care? Same with the account holders name?
    2. Do you have to also clear cookies even when using separate users?
    3. How many bank accounts can you realistically be running at one given time without raising questions?
    4. How do you get several phone numbers that can all be verified by PP in a cheap way? Google voice/textnow seems to be not working.

    Thanks in advance
     
  7. jmt123

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    1. No, nothing has to match with Entropay.

    2. No you should keep your cookies intact when using separate user accounts. If you log into your account with no cookies every time it seems suspicious. Having cookies in place makes ebay trust you just a little more.

    3. It really depends on your relationship with the bank. Opening 7 new accounts all at once at a bank you've never used before will likely raise suspicion with the bank. But if you're been with that bank for years, having 7 accounts isn't a huge deal (though still not a good idea to open them all at once). It's a good idea to spread out your accounts among multiple banks. It's hard to give an exact number and say "this is how many account is okay". Just like everything else in stealth, take it slow. Open a few here and there. If you need a lot of accounts, I would recommend savings accounts. If ever questioned, it's a lot easier to explain why you have 5 different savings (you have one for each of your savings goals, like for a new car, kitchen renovations, etc) vs trying to explain why you'd need 5 checking accounts with one bank. The monthly fee is generally cheaper for savings accounts as well.

    4. You can find cheap prepaid phones in various drugstores (or any store really). You just have to check. You can buy them for $5-10 each.
     
  8. toml3030

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    1. dunno...don't use entropay

    2. you should avoid this by using separate windows account for each eBay account. Wiping flash cookies too often will also trigger eBay bots.

    3. sky's the limit as long as you can stay organized, just as long as you remember one bank account to one paypal account

    4. you can buy a prepaid phone for less than $10 each.
     
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    toml3030 Elite Member

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    One point I would add to jmt123's excellent post is that Bank of America will let you add one personal, one business, and two savings account no questions asked, and this comes straight from BofA's branch manager. You do that at BofA, do that at Chase, do that at Wells Fargo, and you have 12 accounts to play with.
     
  10. squishsquash

    squishsquash Registered Member

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    Thanks. Also, I started a second stealth acct! It was running smoothly til my PP got limited. My eBay acct continues to sell...yet I can't withdraw/send $. Would you suggest forging documents or is there a certain point at which the money will magically be available? I don't mind building til like $500 then just abandoning that acct...
     
  11. jmt123

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    You have nothing to lose since the account is virtually useless so if you can create what they want, go ahead. You'll get access to your funds in 180 days (sometimes sooner, depending on the reason for limitation).