Need Advise for Monitizing TV Show Site

shapeshift3r · Oct 5, 2009

I have a website embedding videos from a popular TV show. I currently have a related CB product offer posted in the sidebar of the site. There is also a banner for a related CPA offer at the top of the site.

I was just wondering if anyone had any other ideas for monetizing.

I'm thinking of doing a forced CPA, but one of my main traffic sources will remove my links if I start to do that. I'm also not sure how successful that would be.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

CashDummy · Oct 5, 2009

c.p.aLead dot com that will take care of it

three3s · Oct 5, 2009

I would just bite the bullet and put up c.p.aLead too, even though your traffic provider might cut you off. There's plenty other traffic sources you can use and the money you make will be far better than the methods you have already mentioned.

harizd · Oct 5, 2009

Yeah, using gateways will cause a massive decline to your traffic. Go about collecting their e-mails and then you can promoting relevant offers or any good product that will convert for your audience.

ForeverNever · Oct 5, 2009

Depends on how many organic uniques you're getting. If you're getting a lot then take down everything that doesn't allow incent and throw up a gateway. I would recommend BHCB or the gateway at adscendmedia.

g111k · Oct 5, 2009

Hey guys, I'm new to the site, but have been doing IM successfully for a little over 6 months...

1) I'd go with BHCB, but set a very long teaser (like 5-10 minutes into the video), in the description tell your viewers that you have to do this sort of thing once a video to keep your site running due to "high costs of running a server, bandwidth.. bla bla bla"

... if you put up small email submits that take them 15-30secs to do, your traffic will get used to it and won't mind

NOTE! Randomize your email submits! Your conversions will be through the roof so make sure you stay under the radar by rotating your offers... here's a script that I use. Simply save it as a .php file and link to the file. If you wanna set up www.your-domain-that-redirects-stuff.com save it as index.php ... you probably know that part, but with the amount of stupid questions on here you never know

This will work on any site btw, including WP

Code:

<? 
 
//set the urls 
$urls = array("http://www.domain1.com" ,"http://www.domain2.com" ,"http://www.domain3.com" ); 
 
//set the text links 
$text = array("site title 1" ,"site title 2", "site title 3"); 
        srand(time()); 
 
//set the number in (rand()%3); for however many links there are 
        $random = (rand()%3); 
//echo ("<a href = \"$urls[$random]\">$text[$random]</a>"); 
header("Location: $urls[$random]"); 
?>

To cover your tracks setup a whitehat site that you will funnel your traffic through... just literally load it with banners to all your offers so that your AM's can see it's optimized for the click throughs

once again there are many options but here's a simple php code that I use, edit the URLs and save as any filename.php

Code:

<?php

// call this page with ?ref=1 or 2 or 3, any number pointing to one of the links from $merchanturls array.

$merchanturls[0] = $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];

$ref=$_GET["ref"];

if (!empty($ref)) {

echo "<html><body onload=\"javascript:frmClickTracking.submit();\">";

echo "<form action=\"" . $merchanturls[0] . "\" method=\"post\" name=\"frmClickTracking\">";

echo "<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"ref\" value=\"" . $ref . "\" />";

echo "</form></body></html>";

exit;

}

$merchanturls[dell] = "http://dell.com";

$merchanturls[yahoo] = "http://yahoo.com";

$merchanturls[google] = "http://www.google.com";

$ref = $_POST['ref'];

if (!empty($ref)) {

if ($ref<=count($merchanturls)) {

$targeturl = $merchanturls[$ref];

if (!strpos($targeturl,"?")) {

echo "<html><body onload=\"javascript:frmClickTracking2.submit();\">";

echo "<form action=\"" . $targeturl . "\" method=\"get\" name=\"frmClickTracking2\">";

echo "</form></body></html>";

exit;

} else {

$pos = strpos($targeturl,"?");

$pageurl = substr($targeturl,0,$pos);

echo "<html><body onload=\"javascript:frmClickTracking3.submit();\">";

echo "<form action=\"" . $pageurl . "\" method=\"get\" name=\"frmClickTracking3\">";

$params = substr($targeturl,$pos+1);

$aparams = explode("&",$params);

for ($k=0;$k<count($aparams);$k++) {

$aparamvalues = explode("=",$aparams[$k]);

if (empty($aparamvalues[1])) $aparamvalues[1]="";

echo "<input type=\"hidden\" name=\"" . $aparamvalues[0] ."\" value=\"" . $aparamvalues[1] . "\" />";

}

echo "</form></body></html>";

exit;

}

}

}

?>

Remember to include this AT THE TOP OF YOUR INDEX.PHP (if you have index.html rename it to index.php)

Code:

<?php include("filename.php"); ?>

Now you can link from your movie site to www.domain.com/?ref=dell to send traffic directly to your CPA URL, in this case dell.com with your whitehat site as the referer.

Take your masked URLs, throw them into the randomizer code and woala!

2) I'd add a google adsense links ad on the lefthand side to make it seem like the navigating links, adsense should pull stuff up related to the movies so your traffic will definitely click, realize it's an ad and go back to ur site

Okay guys so this is my first post, treat me nice and give a thanks if you found this useful... i know i'm not the original source of any of these, but it should make life a lot easier for some of you who need to be spoon fed from A to B!

shapeshift3r · Oct 6, 2009

Well, I'll give this BHCB a try maybe.
Anyone have good experience with conversion rates etc? Of course it depends on the offer, I'd just like to hear someones experience..

UNdefy · Oct 6, 2009

You can make a killing off BHCB if your audience wants to see the content you're keeping them from. If you can find something that people REALLY want to see and are having trouble finding elsewhere, you're golden and they'll fill out your offers all day in hopes of seeing it (whether you actually have it or not, they won't know until they've completed the offer).

Conversion rates all depend on the type of traffic and the offer itself. The more excited about something people are and the harder the find, the higher the conversions.

~UNdefy

g111k · Oct 6, 2009

shapeshift3r said:
Well, I'll give this BHCB a try maybe.
Anyone have good experience with conversion rates etc? Of course it depends on the offer, I'd just like to hear someones experience..

Dude honestly if you set it up the way I described in my earlier post... your conversions will be so high you'll need to water them down... just think about it, if someone is already 10 minutes into the movie, and they get a popup saying to fill in their email to continue.... they're not gonna bother looking for another site and going to the part where your video stopped... they'll just fill out your offer, every time, guaranteed!

shapeshift3r · Oct 6, 2009

Well said. I'll have to look into it.

g111k said:
Dude honestly if you set it up the way I described in my earlier post... your conversions will be so high you'll need to water them down... just think about it, if someone is already 10 minutes into the movie, and they get a popup saying to fill in their email to continue.... they're not gonna bother looking for another site and going to the part where your video stopped... they'll just fill out your offer, every time, guaranteed!

sparky123 · Nov 4, 2009

If you don't host any videos in your site and just embed them around the web, you can not control the players and full screen mode. If they were watching the video in full screen mode at the beginning of the video, your BHCB cannot block anything, the movie continues playing, so there is a technical problem that can't get around with.

g111k · Nov 4, 2009

It's really not a big deal... you can turn off the teaser if you really want to, but I wouldn't... I don't think it's a huge problem if you don't monetize from a few ppl due to some technical problem, this is a niche where if he keeps his site updated he will have a pretty high old visitors return rate, which will get used to the whole submit ur email to unlock thing, and won't mind taking 20 seconds to do it each time they wanna watch an hour long movie/episode

just make sure you're rotating A LOT of offers

sparky123 said:
If you don't host any videos in your site and just embed them around the web, you can not control the players and full screen mode. If they were watching the video in full screen mode at the beginning of the video, your BHCB cannot block anything, the movie continues playing, so there is a technical problem that can't get around with.

sparky123 · Nov 8, 2009

g111k said:
It's really not a big deal... you can turn off the teaser if you really want to, but I wouldn't... I don't think it's a huge problem if you don't monetize from a few ppl due to some technical problem, this is a niche where if he keeps his site updated he will have a pretty high old visitors return rate, which will get used to the whole submit ur email to unlock thing, and won't mind taking 20 seconds to do it each time they wanna watch an hour long movie/episode

just make sure you're rotating A LOT of offers

What network do you use that offers e-mail submits? Do they convert?

duca · Nov 8, 2009

I would go with content gateways..

darkface · Nov 8, 2009

a good content gateway that allows incentives like that would be adscent media i reckon.

g111k · Nov 9, 2009

Most networks offer email/zip submits.. maxbounty has quite a few. Of course they convert... but how bad or good they do obviously depends on you.

sparky123 said:
What network do you use that offers e-mail submits? Do they convert?

decilios · Dec 18, 2009

1) I'd go with BHCB, but set a very long teaser (like 5-10 minutes into the video), in the description tell your viewers that you have to do this sort of thing once a video to keep your site running due to "high costs of running a server, bandwidth.. bla bla bla" ... if you put up small email submits that take them 15-30secs to do, your traffic will get used to it and won't mind

I'm not good with PHP so don't mind me asking...
How do you get the ad to pop up 5-10 minutes into the video? Is there a timer script?

g111k · Dec 18, 2009

decilios said:
I'm not good with PHP so don't mind me asking...
How do you get the ad to pop up 5-10 minutes into the video? Is there a timer script?

That setting you configure in the .js file of BHCB. If you're using wordpress sites and don't want to use BHCB there is another good program for this - WP Guardian, made by a staff member on here... i believe it has a teaser as well... well it should, check in the official BST thread.

Also you don't need to know any coding, just read the manuals it's all straight forward, I don't know any code and I've been fine stealing pieces from here and there and then putting the puzzle together.

itzpaul · Dec 18, 2009

great tips and awesome PHP code

decilios · Dec 19, 2009

That setting you configure in the .js file of BHCB. If you're using wordpress sites and don't want to use BHCB there is another good program for this - WP Guardian, made by a staff member on here... i believe it has a teaser as well... well it should, check in the official BST thread.

i found the link http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/buy-sell-trade/127163-wordpress-guardian-1-3-blog-monetization-plugin-55-bhw-discount.html, but is there a free plug-in that has a teaser option? im not read to blow $45 if i dont have to.

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