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NEED : 10 affordable C-Panel hostings for C-Class SEO-Hosting : Any Suggestion ?

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  1. djprog

    djprog Junior Member

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    Hello Folks,

    As seohosting.com is wayyy to pricey and seo-host is way to shitty (according to BHW members), I'm looking to purchase 10 Cpanel hosting accounts on 10 different webhosting companies.

    My moneysite is on Hostgator, to I need other company than HostG.

    I need something :
    - comparable to the Hostgator Baby Plan but cheaper.
    -Between $2 and $6
    - Ideally more than 10 MySQL DB
    What to you suggest ?

    I don't know if they all have CPanel but so far here is my list :
    - Hostmonster $4,95 one year $3,95 more years
    - Bluehost TOO EXPENSIVE $6,95
    - JustHost $5,95 one year $4,95 two years
    - 1&1 Beginner Plan $3,99 but only 10 MySQL DB
    - webhostingpad $3,45 one year $2,95 two years
    - HostClear $5,95 one year, $4,95 two years
    - iPage $3,50 one or more years

    So, so far I only have Hostmonster, 1&1, webhostingpad and iPage that are cheap but i don't know if they are any good.

    What do you think ?? :help:
    Any company I forgot ? Any company I should ignore as they are too bad ?

    Cheers,
     
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  3. djprog

    djprog Junior Member

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    Thanks but to be honest with you I want to avoid unknown webhosting company. I won't do anything too black, no p0rn, no pills, but I need to be sure it's reliable.

    Or maybe you have one precise that you recommend ?

    Edit : I found stablehost.com using your link. They offer $3,62 for one year subscription and two locations in US ans europe so possibly 2 c-class. Do you know them ?
     
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    how about page1hosting.com, I've heard good review about their hosting
     
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    Can't find any company information on their website. (and I really don't like that ;-) )
    It's probably some hosting resellers or something like that. Never heard of them.
     
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    ventureserv.com/hosting-plans.php . cheapest plan is $15
    dwhs.net/web-hosting-plans.htm . cheapest is $3.00
     
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    Actually thank you for the link. I've read the forum and found some great host but I don't know if they're good.

    Someone knows / can say whether the following are any good : :questionm
    - Sharkspace
    - StableHost
    - HawkHost
    - ASmallOrange
    - DownTownHost (but doesn't seem that cheap)

    ??
    What is great to get multiple c-class is that most of these hosts have multiple servers, in the US + in Europe so I could get more c-class hopefully.

    Cheers,
     
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    according to hosting talk forum they suck a little. Reviews are 50/50
     
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    I can give you free trial.

    Pay only if you statisfied
     
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    Hi guys, besides different C class IPs, there may be another issue to solve:

    .ORG, .BIZ, .INFO domains have to be registered with different accounts within same registrar OR different registrars.

    the above does NOT apply to .COM and .NET.

    this is because registry data for .COM and .NET do NOT include so called "Registrant ID" field. However, .ORG and most other TLDs do have that field, and it would hold the same value if you register multiple domains with the same registrar (say, godaddy) account, basically, revealing to G00gle the fact that your "SEO" sites belong to the same owner.

    Bottom line for building your SEO farm -

    1) .COM and .NET - just different C-class IPs should be enough
    2) .ORG, .BIZ, .INFO, etc - needs both different C-class IPs AND domains registered from different registrant accounts
     
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    Using multiple hosts is a pain in the ass but it does give you good cloaking of ownership, especially if you're using a few different registrars.

    The problem with "seo hosting" providers is that they are usually missing one or more pieces of the puzzle which is needed to make it seem as though all of those IP addresses are from different owners.

    For example, they have multiple C class IPs but they don't provide DNS servers on different C class IPs. Most don't offer RDNS servers on different IPs either. Using the same DNS or RDNS defeats the purpose of getting C class IPs. You have to cover all your bases.

    I use multiple cheap hosts with a custom cross server proxy. This allows central management of the sites but still lets them appear to be on different hosts (technically they are).

    I did find one Windows based seo hosting company that claimed to offer multi C class IPs, DNS and RDNS servers but they only had dedicated servers starting at $350 a month. Not super expensive but with my proxy I can have like 40 cheap hosting accounts on different hosts around the world for the same price.
     
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    Does it still apply if i'm using a whoisguard ??

    Thanx !
     
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    Hey BlackHatSoda !

    Would you mind telling us a little bit more on how to you get this centralized management, it looks really great ! :wave:

    PS : if you don't wanna explain a few links could do ;)
     
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    Please tell me more! Did you make your own custom cross server proxy or is one available for the rest of us?
     
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    Sure...

    Basically I've got a custom written proxy which grabs all HTTP requests sent to a domain pointed at one of these cheap hosting accounts. This includes all GET/POST data, headers and cookies. These HTTP requests are forwarded to the central CMS which sits on a dedicated server and dishes out the files, headers and cookies to be sent back to the visitor.

    The proxy maintains a cached copy of everything so that performance isn't an issue. If any of the sites grows in traffic to the point where it could be an issue, I take it out of the CMS and create a real site which is placed on better hosting.

    This, along with varied web hosts, registrars, domain registration information and not using things like Google Analytics (I use open source, self-hosted traffic tracking) pretty much eliminates the ownership footprint. Don't use the same layout, about us, contact us or privacy policy pages and you should be well hidden.

    This gives you privacy from the search engines, your competition and provides higher fault tolerance for sites with static content via the cache. Of course, the main reason I do it is for SEO :)
     
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    Thanks for the explaination.

    So basically, there is almost "nothing" hosted on the cheap host, right ?

    Every request is sent to the cheap host and "forwarded" behind the scene to your main CMS ?

    So it's actually a very improved version of the concept :
    "centralized" master blog hidden with robots.txt used to manage content of the "Salve" blogs getting populated by multiple RSS coming from the Master blog ?

    How big is the network you handle ? I don't think one can manage a big network with the "centralized/slave" blog method...
     
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    Correct, the only thing on the cheap hosts are the proxy itself and the cached copies of the files for the domains it handles.

    You could accomplish a similar setup with the concept you describe, using RSS feeds to populate multiple blogs from a central blog. This would be much simpler to setup but you'd run into management issues as the number of sites grew. Only your textual content would be centrally managed. You would still have to use blogging software which would need to be installed, configured and maintained manually for each site. You wouldn't be able to centrally manage the themes. Other content such as images, videos, flash files could be located in a central place such as the master blog or other web host but the slave sites would have to hotlink to that location, leaving a footprint. In addition, you'd have to worry about backing up all those blog databases if you wanted to keep any site specific data such as comments or configuration information.

    The great part about the setup I've put together is that everything associated with every site from content to layout to database data is in one location. When a file is changed or deleted from the CMS, the proper proxy is notified and it either deletes the file or requests the new version from the CMS. If the site needs to move to a new host, I only have to copy the proxy up, update the DNS records and tell the CMS to push all the files. If something happens to the CMS, all the sites would still be up aside from any interaction that requires hitting the database.

    Right now I'm just getting this setup in the water so only test sites at the moment. I've spent the last 6 months building the custom CMS, having the proxy made, developing my own mass keyword research tool and am in the process of hiring 2 full time content writers.

    Having tons of hosting accounts isn't ideal but having 20 or even 30 so isn't much trouble as all I have to do is put the proxy up and set up the DNS and I'm done. You can probably get by with jut a handful of actual web hosts as most big ones have multiple data centers around the world. Several accounts at each and you'd have a very broad range of class B and C IPs not to mention the ability to put sites targeted at specific countries or regions closer to those locations for better download speed.
     
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