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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jxiong2012, May 7, 2014.

  1. jxiong2012

    jxiong2012 Regular Member

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    Here's a few keywords I am trying to rank for:

    elo boost
    elo boosting
    lol boost

    Right now I have hand made 5 web 2.0, with 2 posts that I wrote. Each post has 500+ words and keyword density is under 1%. I am using GSA with these to point to my Web 2.0

    Also, should i use more than the US search engines if I'm targeting international?

    I have a third tier pointing to the links created by GSA. Right now I'm doing about 100 submissions a day. I ordered some social foundation profiles from a BHW user.

    Programs I currently use:
    GSA SER
    Scrapebox

    I have 10 proxies and a decent sized budget (in my opinion 3k+). So my question is, if I want to rank as number 1 for my niche, what should I do? I analyzed the niche leader's backlink profile and it appears they just used an automated service to post places. I really want to become number 1 for this niche......any help would be greatly appreciated.

    In the past I purchased backlink packages from people like Sarkark (Lion's Mane/Galaxy Blog Post) and spend a lot of money just to get manual penalty. Back then I over optimized like crazy (requested exact match anchor text) which I believe is what caused my penalty. Thanks in advance!
     
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    Dude, remove the keywords!
    You don't want someone here steal your keywords.
     
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    Edit your post buddy, do not post your keyword in public
     
  4. jxiong2012

    jxiong2012 Regular Member

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    Erm, these are the top 3 keywords - every body in our niche is working for these it's public knowledge xD can someone check the competitiveness of these?
     
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    Type the keyword in Google search, and analize the top 3 URLs that pop up. You can use majesticseo to check there link structure and trust flow. You can use other tool to see more info, just google it.
     
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    I wouldn't try to compete in this type of niche...very competitive, lots of spam, lots of hacking going on to boost rankings.
     
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    yeah it was a huge mistake buying from that seo provider, I got the same results, my sites got hit by google yahoo and bing. disappeared forever. A lot of the posts there are pretty suspicious like a person saying that they've made 15+ purchases etc, if regular customers like you and I say the contrary.

    For your specific niche, I'd just stay away, what I would recommend is that you go on the league forums or a related league reddit, and say you provide coaching, because that's where all your customers are, majority of them have money seeing how they buy RP points for skins. Build relationships, and contacts, make it subtle, then you can upsell them to your boosting campaign.

    That is the way to save you the most money, and make the most out of your idea.
     
  8. jxiong2012

    jxiong2012 Regular Member

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    Thing is, I'm already a well established on related forums. You also cannot post on the league of legends forum or the reddit, they are heavily moderated and your post will be deleted within the minute. Also, but spamming Riot sponsored threads, they will crack down on you and hit you and your boosters with bans.

    To put this in perspective, when i was rank 4-5 on the front page, I was generating nearly 7K in revenues a month. Imagine hitting the first spot.....back then I was only taking 20% of each order when comparable sites were taking 40-50%. I need to rank for this. Also, with Sarkark service he keeps on posting reviews from months back, which tricks a lot of people.
     
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    A lot of people "imagine" the first spot for google, and the truth is getting there is the hardest reality.

    What I would do if I were you, is to use ppv on those high ranking elo boosting sites, and every time people look at their site who use a specific toolbar, your elo boosting site would pop up.
     
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    I just don't understand why you guys feel like this is a terribly hard niche to get into....the highest search is just 18K where the rest are under 10k. Using Sarkark's service got me to rank 4 for literally less than 1K , so I don't see why it would be impossible for me to put 10k+ into this and see results. I know the other site owners and they are just like me, hiring outside help and learning SEO slowly.

    This isn't a niche like weightloss or payday loans....
     
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    Well, here's your competition, if you can beat those guys, then go for it.
    [TH="align: center"]#[/TH] [TH="class: url, align: center"]Google Top Ten Ranking[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Page Aut..[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Domain A..[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Backlinks[/TH] [TH="align: center"]MozRank[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Page Rank[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Google +1s[/TH] [TH="align: center"]FB Shares[/TH] [TH="align: center"]FB Likes[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Tweets[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Url[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Title[/TH] [TH="align: center"]Desc[/TH] [TH="align: center"]H1[/TH]
    1 (I deleted this) 45 34 5712 4 2 5 261 34 7 NO YES YES NO
    2 (I deleted this) 55 47 7179 5 0 0 7 0 3 NO YES YES NO
    3 (I deleted this) 34 22 293 6 0 180 312 89 27 YES YES NO YES
     
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    I know, I have SERP book and have been competing with these guys for a long time. I have their entire backlink profile and have been looking for High PR posting opportunities. Most of the posts they make are on random blogs with thousands of other comments. I believe that these blogs have been spammed, and since they are pointing directly to their money site, I don't see how they haven't been hit with any penalties yet. As you can see their social scene is not very powerful.....

    Also, to put the competitiveness of this niche in perspective, I have been ranking a new website and have hit all my keywords in the top 100 with only 20 backlinks shown on Serpbook. Right now I have created 771 links on my GSA all either pointing to my 5 Web2.0's or as second tier links. All of my content is hand written by me with no spinning done on the blog posts. Also, my competition don't use hacks either - my site was not Neg SEO'd or DDOS'd by my competition. We are all honest people trying to rank a site for our personal businesses. This niche is not filled with the ad sense and affiliate websites that are commonplace here at BHW so I doubt there are any professional SEO guys focusing on this niche.

    *currently only 4 days in my own SEO journey. After being penalized and lackluster results I have taken it upon myself to become a SEO professional in hopes of generating more Elo boosting business.
     
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    SEO is not the only option.

    Use PPV. That's the SECRET. GO DO IT. Look at Lead Impact, Media Traffic, Traffic Vance. GOOD LUCK Bby.
     
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    What is PPV..? I rather not pay constantly. I've tried adwords and it is basically throwing money in the garbage. The customers that I target are extremely ad sensitive and will literally block out an ad within seconds of seeing it (if they haven't already installed ad block).