My Final Venture...The App Store or Bust

I agree with what most people have said, the app market is super crowded.

However, its soooo much more of a better idea to sell apps to local businesses. They can benefit of it because they can get traffic through to their app through QR codes, social media, etc. You can create the app for them for a nice sum.

Try that out instead.
 
If you want to compare the app store to SEO competition, then you must realize you're not competing for the long tail keywords which you're assuming. You're essentially competing for the term "PORN" or "LOANS". No one with hardly any experience (or massive marketing budget) will EVER be able to rank for those terms, even if your content is unique.



The app store is not like a search engine. It doesn't automatically rank high if its unique and useful. If you aren't in the top 100 for any categories (and it takes thousands of purchases per day to reach it) then you wont have any exposure which in turn, equals no sales = dead on arrival just like the 390,000 apps that didnt make it to top 100 for a category.
This sums it up pretty nicely +1 for you. :)

This thread reminds me of a person who created a thread on a betting forum saying that he got a golden method to beat roulette online and he was going to make thousands with his secret method. Every one on the forum told him that no such system for success exists and he will lose all his money but he said that impossible is nothing blah blah. Finally the guy lost $2000 something after winning a decent amount of $150 :P

Instead of wasting your precious time on learning Obj C and chasing the app dream you can use your passion and energy into something that will get you results. Tell me something can you launch a new search engine and beat Google? Answer is not in a million years. So what do you think you can beat giants at the top 100 in apps? It is not competing with them it is simply closing your eyes and repeating the term I will beat them. It won't bring any good.
 
Don't listen to what people are saying about the app store gold rush. All that's happened is that the standard niches have been saturated. Desktop computers have countless thousands of applications, does that mean computer software is dead? Hell no. There are countless web applications, does that mean that web applications are dead? Hell no.

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Secondly, consider making apps that are utilities. Something that people will pay a monthly subscription fee for.
 
What I'm also saying is that you shouldn't be making apps that rely on the app store to sell. I know someone who's built an app for doctors, and is charging $500/year/doctor.

That's where the real money is.
 
Op hasn't updated thread in about 18 months.... Wonder how he got on?
 
After over a year, I'm finally back to give an update on this thread and to share some of my experiences.

Now for the most pertinent question, did I ever get an app into the App Store? No, I decided to walk away from Apple's restrictive iOS environment in favor of the more open and less saturated Android ecosystem. And Yes I released my first application to the Google Play Store in August 2012, and my second application was released last evening. I did reach my goals and on my own terms.

Many of you all are correct about market saturation, after all there are hundreds of applications that perform similar functions with varying degrees of success. I didn't take see that as a problem. I created 2 applications that are unique in their scope and fill very specific niches. I had a lot of time to brainstorm app ideas, and my children even recommend some ideas as well. I just jot them down and search to see if someone has seen our idea as a need that should be remedied by an app, and based on my research I proceed with the project or table it until I find a way to do it better than the competition. A better mouse trap sells, and having the only mouse trap will really sell.

Besides releasing my 2nd app to the Play Store, this past year I've purchased 2 new cars, learned about investing stocks and technical analysis (to the tune of 98%+ winners picked), created residual income through real estate investing, and developed a personal plan to retire in 11 years and never work again.

The past year I intentionally stayed away from BHW, not because I don't like corresponding with like-minded people, but rather because it became a distraction to my progress. The constant avalanche of "[Method] Insert something catchy, Noob-Friendly, etc." type posts that only served to draw me away from my purpose and sent me on wild goose chases after a supposed method that has already been abused to death. I stopped looking at the methods, and did some personal assessment to see why I was not achieving the level of success that I desired. That was the right thing for me to do, since the problem was not the method, work ethic, or creativity, it was me. I took a year to reprogram myself, and put an actual plan in place for success. My apps have nothing to do with that plan, I made the apps because I like to finish what I start, and when they are successful then it's extra income towards my goals.

An associate of mine, recommended a book by T. Harv Eker titled "Secrets of the Millionaire Mind", and reading it was a life changing event for me. I have read other type books in the past, but I wasn't ready to receive the message. This time the student was ready and the teacher appeared. I still listen to the audio book in full once a month as a refresher to keep myself focused. If you decide to read this book, don't look at it as a method, it's personal retraining so that you can become your own method to success.

If you are serious about your success, don't let naysayers turn your back. If you have a skill or expertise, find a way to lend your expertise to as many people as possible. Don't waste your time chasing the fools gold of short term methods on this forum. BHW is an excellent source for technical expertise and a resource that marketers, webmasters and seo professionals should take advantage of. Just don't expect anyone to post a method that will make you insane amounts of money for 20 minutes of work per day, and give that information away for free. Short term income is a band aid, residual income is the cure.

Again, sorry to keep you waiting so long. I would say that my final venture is just another iron in my residual income fire and publishing an app has been a success. Thanks for coming along with me on this journey. If you would like more details about how I went about developing my apps please ask me here.

Best of Luck In All Your Endeavors,
Mark
 
I am a Android apps dev. i tried to create apps but prob. is i was making the app which is already in market and i failed so my suggestion will be Please do a research on your App idea that it's not in the market or its highly ranked etc...

Best of luck :)

EDIT: Sorry i did not read the topic date:)

i want to ask a question how you got idea of your app.
 
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I would not choose such a hard competitive market to be your last venture.
You can make it man its just not easy. Your also a part of the best community to help you in this.
 
I am a Android apps dev. i tried to create apps but prob. is i was making the app which is already in market and i failed so my suggestion will be Please do a research on your App idea that it's not in the market or its highly ranked etc...

Best of luck :)

EDIT: Sorry i did not read the topic date:)

i want to ask a question how you got idea of your app.

Oddly enough many ideas come to me in everyday life. Think about how many time you needed to complete a task and wish that there was an app for that, but when you go to find one, there is none that does what you need? There is your niche. I was very diligent about jotting down these ideas as soon as I realized that I had a need or desire for an application to make my life easier or more entertaining. Necessity is the mother of invention, even when it comes to applications.
 
I would not choose such a hard competitive market to be your last venture.
You can make it man its just not easy. Your also a part of the best community to help you in this.

Thanks. I'm not worried about making it all, my only concern is how to expand once this grows beyond my span of individual control. And BHW is my favorite forum just like rum is my favorite drink. I enjoy them both and have good times with them, but both can be a distraction if not used in moderation.
 
It disappoints me how many people are so negative about business ventures.

The Wright Brothers were told they were crazy for trying to invent a "flying machine".

Thomas Edison was routinely ridiculed for his ventures to create the "light bulb".

Mozart was considered a hack and a drunk.

Einstein was told he was stupid in high school.

This list could go on forever. The point is, screw all the naysayers and negative people. The ONLY people who make it big are the people who aren't afraid to dream big. If you don't have big dreams, then you might as well call it quits and go back to work for the man.


Nice!

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