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My experience with 7search + 2cents

Discussion in 'Other PPC Networks' started by Bot Solutions, Jun 14, 2015.

  1. Bot Solutions

    Bot Solutions Regular Member

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    So I went along with 7search because I have no experience with ppc at all, and did not want to spend much on see myself failing. I was wrong tho. However I managed to get a positive roi, I can see serious problems with their traffic. All of their parters/affiliates mix the real visitors with bots. And I'm not talking about a few percentage.

    First I set up a pretty simple bot filter which just asked the visitor "Click OK to continue". It did not work, the bots clicked the OK. I don't know how, but from 1200 clicks 3 leads is not convincing imo. Then I came up with a new idea. The current version ask the visitor to solve an easy mathematical problem like 2 + 5 in a javascript prompt window. It worked, and my tracker showed that only 15% of the visitors proceeded.... 15%? Anyways now I get the same amount of leads paying for the same amount of clicks, but only the real visitors gets to the offer. It's good, because this way I am able to adjust the bidding on each subID-s. I can't see other options to scale the earnings. Some sends 80% bot traffic, others 90%, but noone sends only real traffic, which is sad.

    One more interesting thing I noticed that I had 5 leads and 1 sale, and all from mobile traffic. It's still not enough data to draw a conclusion, but I guess mobile traffic is the way to go with 7search.

    So my 2cents:

    Bid for every relevant keywords.
    If you plan to bid on laser targeted keywords with exact matches, i have bad news for you. You will hardly get any traffic and it will be still bots, trust me. Also it will cost you a lot.
    So let's say you are promoting a browser based strategy game, then you should bid for "game", "play", "toy", "world of warcraft" etc. Use their keyword tool to find out which keywords gets enough searches. I only add a keyword when the top 10 searches gets at least 30k searches per month. If your keyword is 1 word ("play", "game"), set broad match, if it's a phrase ("world of warcraft"), bid for phrase.

    Bid the lowest possible.
    When I can't bid $0.01 on a keyword, I just pause it. Don't worry about bad positions. It's not a regular ppc network, i see 7search ppc more like media buying. You gotta show your ad and get clicks for the lowest possbile cost. The more keywords you have the cheaper clicks you can get. I buy clicks anywhere between $0.005 and $0.0005. It's because i set up the ad scheduling to decrease the bids by 50% on each day of the week + custom subID bid overrides, 80-90% (depends on the quality of the traffic).

    Use a tracker.
    No explanation needed. Learn how to track. Voluum has a free plan up to 100k events (100k clicks for me).
    Code:
    http://www.voluum.com
    Claim their $25 promo.
    You deposit $50 and you will get a $25 as a Peerfly affiliate. (I don't use Peerfly btw) Just contact 7search support.

    Request the custom features enabled.
    Tell the support you need subID bid override and ad scheduling. They respond me in 1 business day and I always got a PDF guide. :)

    Tell your story with 7search!
     
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  2. Bot Solutions

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    UPDATE:

    It seems the "strategy" I told you above works only for keywords with high volume searches.

    The campaign is successful and makes me $5 a day (i spend $2.5 and $7.5 in revenue). It has been a week so far. I gotta optimize it i guess and set up 10 more campaign like this so i can make $100 a day haha. nice dream...

    I'm trying to crack in with PPS offers, so I set up a new campaign today with a different approach. I'm bidding $0.05 per click which is 10 times more than on the first campaign. I will get like 70k searches per month and I expect around 600 clicks. We will c.

    Also i found an other promo which gives you $50 on $100 deposit.
    Code:
    http://7search.com/landing/affiliatefix/
     
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  3. Bileks

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    I just started today with them. I am not using them for CPA offers but for my own business to generate leads. I have been working with adwords/Bing from a long time and now i would want to test this network as well. I will update my experience with 7Search.

    Thank You
     
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    UPDATE:

    So I got enough data to optimize my first campaign. My overall roi was 300% which is pretty good. On Canada my roi was 1000% + (spent $3 and got $32 in revenue).
    When i thought I should exclude the non-performing factors and bid more I was wrong. I have no idea why, but I'm getting less converting traffic with bidding higher? Does it even make sense? I have no idea what to do now... I can't see other options to scale the things up. Weird. I'm still testing.

    On the other hand I was wrong with the first post. Desktop surfers were giving me waaay better results. Also according to my new "bot filter" only 20% of them is bot.
    Here is the code btw. The redirect triggers on mouseover. So if the user is real, it's like normal redirection.
    Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html><head>
    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
    <style>
    html, body {
    	width: 100%;
    	height: 100%;
    }
    </style>
    </head><body onmouseover="window.location.href = 'YOUR URL GOES HERE'">
    please click anywhere to proceed...
    </body></html>
    The PPS offer was deleted :D not enough searches and still too many bots :(
    I read that some niches just don't work with 7search, however some do really great.
    Here is a list of the top paying keywords at 7search:
    Code:
    http://7search.com/scripts/searchterms/top_paying.asp?n=500
    See you next week!
     
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    wow interesting case study on 7search..will follow this surely :)
     
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    Great guide! I'm trying 7 search out now. Where on your landing page do you add the code... head or body section?
    Thanks :)
     
  7. Bot Solutions

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    It really does not matter... I added to the head tag. :)

    So I was on vacation last week, that's why I did not update the thread.

    I have not much to say this week.. The mentioned campaign still makes me some $ a day. I was not able to scale it up, and I don't think it is possible. I tried everything and no luck. If I increase the bids the traffic is shit.

    In the meantime I got accepted at neverblue (globalwidemedia). Now I have an access to really great offers with reasonable payouts. Wish me luck with that.
     
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  8. Elliot305

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    My first two immediate thoughts to scaling are: (1) clone the campaign 10-20 times in your account and (2) create a new account and clone it over there. Both of these have worked extremely well for me in the past and are good workarounds to getting more traffic without needing to increase bid levels.
     
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    Nice case study mate :) I never tried doing any serious PPC besides google adwords, and I really hated that. 7search looks promising from your results, will give them a try when I hve enough money ton invest in ppc again.
     
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    Yes, I did it, but not the same offer as it is against 7search TOS. I was able to get + $2 every day.
    I just spoke to 7search support (they are very helpful) and gave me a few ideas of what should I do.
    I'm really excited! Will update this soon!
     
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    interesting case study. I've always found 7search to be low quality traffic even for the price, it's impressive that you have achieved such nice ROI's. Good luck with your campaigns!